Stacey Coley = Watkins from Clemson...... same player

[Cans4life]

Rich Man's Ochocinco.

 

[terdferguson]

Coley is not more polished as a wr than Watkins. Al has made a number of comments about how Coley needs some work as a wr. Meanwhile when Watkins arrived as a freshman, the clemson coaches said his route running was so superb that "we just try to leave him alone and stay out of his way." Dude was as polished as can be as a true freshman receiver.

Coley looks real dangerous with the ball in his hands. The guy is going to make a lot of big plays for us. Thank god we got him because it would have been a nightmare if he was on the noles.

 

[canadianhurricane]

I love Coley but Watkins 'long speed' is something else.. There are different types of fast and Watkins seems to pull away from guys who everyone would agree are fast. Coley stride seems so effortless. I remember watching his hs highlight tape and coming away confused because it seemed like he wasn't trying. Now that we get to see him at this level I can say for sure that coley has hips and stripe that will really make dbs have to pay attention. Once he becomes more confident catching the ball, he'll be special. Right now, he doesn't have Watkins speed tho and if you compared both as freshmen, Watkins > Coley.

 

[bacane]

Don't know who he compares to, so let's just say Stacey Coley. Potential to do great things the next 3, maybe 4 years.

 

[am1640]

Coley is not more polished as a wr than Watkins. Al has made a number of comments about how Coley needs some work as a wr. Meanwhile when Watkins arrived as a freshman, the clemson coaches said his route running was so superb that "we just try to leave him alone and stay out of his way." Dude was as polished as can be as a true freshman receiver.

[video=youtube_share;kRmc9IPGmiA]http://youtu.be/kRmc9IPGmiA[/video]

Coley runs routes just as good as Watkins did. His route running is one of his best attributes. Watch the espn broadcast and Cory Chavis is doing a circle jerk on the route Coley ran to get open in the FAU game on that second drop. Goldens comments about the work he has to do are
1) He doesn't want to be blowing smoke up his **** already inorder to keep him grounded and working. Look what blowing Sammy's head up early did for Clemson
2) He has to get stronger so that he can become a better blocker. Eventhough he tries he just isn't a good blocker right now.

Btw it's funny people talk about Coley's drops while talking about a guy like Watkins who still drops passes and has since he was a freshman (ie the Dorsett play against SCar that changed the game)

 

[NotoriousJJE]

I don't know how to describe it, but watching Stacy Coley run is like watching Ken Griffey JR swing. Everything about him (besides catching the ball cleanly so far, which I'm not concerned about) is so natural and effortless.

That's such a great comparison.

Agree 100%

 

[407cane]

Coley is not more polished as a wr than Watkins. Al has made a number of comments about how Coley needs some work as a wr. Meanwhile when Watkins arrived as a freshman, the clemson coaches said his route running was so superb that "we just try to leave him alone and stay out of his way." Dude was as polished as can be as a true freshman receiver.

[video=youtube_share;kRmc9IPGmiA]http://youtu.be/kRmc9IPGmiA[/video]

Coley runs routes just as good as Watkins did. His route running is one of his best attributes. Watch the espn broadcast and Cory Chavis is doing a circle jerk on the route Coley ran to get open in the FAU game on that second drop. Goldens comments about the work he has to do are
1) He doesn't want to be blowing smoke up his **** already inorder to keep him grounded and working. Look what blowing Sammy's head up early did for Clemson
2) He has to get stronger so that he can become a better blocker. Eventhough he tries he just isn't a good blocker right now.

Btw it's funny people talk about Coley's drops while talking about a guy like Watkins who still drops passes and has since he was a freshman (ie the Dorsett play against SCar that changed the game)

your key word here is "did" in the first sentence. Maybe Coley runs routes as well as Watkins did his first year at Clemson sure, but the posters in this thread claiming that Coley is more polished than Watkins at the current state is just ridiculous. Even then when he was a freshman, Watkins was a breakout player taking notice by the whole countr. I'm not saying that Coley can't become that but we cannot crown the kid based on potential. He has to have a solid season and come up big for us in important games (UNC, FSU, Clem, GT) for him to even be in the same conversation as Watkins. We all love the canes here but lets not be too blinded

 

[The Franchise]

I love Coley but Watkins 'long speed' is something else.. There are different types of fast and Watkins seems to pull away from guys who everyone would agree are fast. Coley stride seems so effortless. I remember watching his hs highlight tape and coming away confused because it seemed like he wasn't trying. Now that we get to see him at this level I can say for sure that coley has hips and stripe that will really make dbs have to pay attention. Once he becomes more confident catching the ball, he'll be special. Right now, he doesn't have Watkins speed tho and if you compared both as freshmen, Watkins > Coley.

Wait till Coley gets the same chances to pull away from people. You'll see the same long football speed from him. This dude's on a different level from an athletic standpoint, and he's not one of those guys who times fast in a 40 and plays slow. He's faster on the field than he times in the 40.

 

[DC Dog Nuts]

I love Coley but Watkins 'long speed' is something else.. There are different types of fast and Watkins seems to pull away from guys who everyone would agree are fast. Coley stride seems so effortless. I remember watching his hs highlight tape and coming away confused because it seemed like he wasn't trying. Now that we get to see him at this level I can say for sure that coley has hips and stripe that will really make dbs have to pay attention. Once he becomes more confident catching the ball, he'll be special. Right now, he doesn't have Watkins speed tho and if you compared both as freshmen, Watkins > Coley.

Wait till Coley gets the same chances to pull away from people. You'll see the same long football speed from him. This dude's on a different level from an athletic standpoint, and he's not one of those guys who times fast in a 40 and plays slow. He's faster on the field than he times in the 40.

That has been a huge problem for this team over the last several years. We had great athletes in shirts and shorts who then turned into mush when the pads went on.

We finally have good football players who are good athletes and great athletes who are also good football players.

 

[AlexCane]

This is a bit premature. Watkins went for 82-1219 in his freshman campaign. Our boy has 5-35. Let's slow our roll. Also, I think Watkins has a bit more wiggle in the open field.

That being said, Coley is just a natural. Smooth as ****. His acceleration on that TD pass was amazing. Super fluid athlete.

 

[zone3cane]

I think Stacy Coley only compares to Sammy Watkins in terms of being a playmaker for their teams but i dont think they are similar at all in terms of how they play.

Stacy Coley to me is more like a bigger DeSean Jackson or a bigger and faster Peter Warrick.

 

[The Franchise]

This is a bit premature. Watkins went for 82-1219 in his freshman campaign. Our boy has 5-35. Let's slow our roll. Also, I think Watkins has a bit more wiggle in the open field.

That being said, Coley is just a natural. Smooth as ****. His acceleration on that TD pass was amazing. Super fluid athlete.

Watkins piling up more stats doesn't invalidate the comparison of their abilities. Watkins was their #1 option as a freshmans; Coley has been our 5th or 6th option.

 

[AlexCane]

This is a bit premature. Watkins went for 82-1219 in his freshman campaign. Our boy has 5-35. Let's slow our roll. Also, I think Watkins has a bit more wiggle in the open field.

That being said, Coley is just a natural. Smooth as ****. His acceleration on that TD pass was amazing. Super fluid athlete.

Watkins piling up more stats doesn't invalidate the comparison of their abilities. Watkins was their #1 option as a freshmans; Coley has been our 5th or 6th option.

No. That Clemson team also had Dwayne Allen, DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Ellington and Mike Bellamy. Three of those guys are NFL guys and Bellamy was talented as **** but a total moron.

 

[Cans4life]

I love Coley but Watkins 'long speed' is something else.. There are different types of fast and Watkins seems to pull away from guys who everyone would agree are fast. Coley stride seems so effortless. I remember watching his hs highlight tape and coming away confused because it seemed like he wasn't trying. Now that we get to see him at this level I can say for sure that coley has hips and stripe that will really make dbs have to pay attention. Once he becomes more confident catching the ball, he'll be special. Right now, he doesn't have Watkins speed tho and if you compared both as freshmen, Watkins > Coley.

Wait till Coley gets the same chances to pull away from people. You'll see the same long football speed from him. This dude's on a different level from an athletic standpoint, and he's not one of those guys who times fast in a 40 and plays slow. He's faster on the field than he times in the 40.

Coley, IMO will be just as good as Watkins but they are different types of players. Watkins is stronger and probably faster, Coley has better body control and hands.

 

[terdferguson]

Coley is not more polished as a wr than Watkins. Al has made a number of comments about how Coley needs some work as a wr. Meanwhile when Watkins arrived as a freshman, the clemson coaches said his route running was so superb that "we just try to leave him alone and stay out of his way." Dude was as polished as can be as a true freshman receiver.

[video=youtube_share;kRmc9IPGmiA]http://youtu.be/kRmc9IPGmiA[/video]

Coley runs routes just as good as Watkins did. His route running is one of his best attributes. Watch the espn broadcast and Cory Chavis is doing a circle jerk on the route Coley ran to get open in the FAU game on that second drop. Goldens comments about the work he has to do are
1) He doesn't want to be blowing smoke up his **** already inorder to keep him grounded and working. Look what blowing Sammy's head up early did for Clemson
2) He has to get stronger so that he can become a better blocker. Eventhough he tries he just isn't a good blocker right now.

Btw it's funny people talk about Coley's drops while talking about a guy like Watkins who still drops passes and has since he was a freshman (ie the Dorsett play against SCar that changed the game)

Yes Coley is a good route runner. Yes I heard Chavous praising his route running. No, he's not a better route runner than Watkins as a freshman. Watkins might be the most polished true freshman wr of all time. He came in and became the go to guy from day 1 even though Hopkins, a future first rounder was already there. Hopkins is miles better than Dorsett or Waters or any of these other guys that Coley has been running behind.

Why do our fans have such a hard time admitting the other guy might be better at something? So Coley might not be as good of a route runner as a guy who maybe posted the best true freshman receiving season of all time. Who cares. Coley's still **** good.


I kind of like the Peter Warrick comparison. Their skillsets aren't exactly the same, but he just has that Warrick feel when the ball is in his hands.

 

[Gamineal]

:ibisroflmao:

wow lil premature there...why not start a GUS thread being like Adrian Peterson

 

[cane33]

You are either a delusional homer or you don't know **** about the WR position if you think Coley is more polished or runs better routes than Watkins at the same point in their careers.

Watkins was arguably the best WR in the country from his 1st game as a freshman. Coley isn't even a starter yet and has dropped almost as many passes as he has caught.

Just stop with the stupid *** posts. Coley is going to be a great WR here but you're not doing him any favors with these outlandish comparisons and placing ridiculous expectations on him. Just give him time and let him develop.

 

[The Franchise]

This is a bit premature. Watkins went for 82-1219 in his freshman campaign. Our boy has 5-35. Let's slow our roll. Also, I think Watkins has a bit more wiggle in the open field.

That being said, Coley is just a natural. Smooth as ****. His acceleration on that TD pass was amazing. Super fluid athlete.

Watkins piling up more stats doesn't invalidate the comparison of their abilities. Watkins was their #1 option as a freshmans; Coley has been our 5th or 6th option.

No. That Clemson team also had Dwayne Allen, DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Ellington and Mike Bellamy. Three of those guys are NFL guys and Bellamy was talented as **** but a total moron.

Out of that group of guys, 1 was a WR, and he had good stats too because Clemson throws the ball a million times and runs a million plays. The other guys are RBs and 1 was a TE, so I don't see how listing those guys invalidated in any way my point about being the #1 option in the passing game. Watkins was their #1 option and Hopkins was #2. I think that changed last year, and Hopkins became their #1 option.

 

[caneaddict]

This is a bit premature. Watkins went for 82-1219 in his freshman campaign. Our boy has 5-35. Let's slow our roll. Also, I think Watkins has a bit more wiggle in the open field.

That being said, Coley is just a natural. Smooth as ****. His acceleration on that TD pass was amazing. Super fluid athlete.

Watkins piling up more stats doesn't invalidate the comparison of their abilities. Watkins was their #1 option as a freshmans; Coley has been our 5th or 6th option.

No. That Clemson team also had Dwayne Allen, DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Ellington and Mike Bellamy. Three of those guys are NFL guys and Bellamy was talented as **** but a total moron.

Asked the other day on Clemson game thread but no response, what happened to Bellamy and steward @ Clemson?

 

[Bennubird]

Actually I think his stride is more fluid than either Watkins or Johnson. In fact, it is one of the most effortless strides I have seen in a long time. Coley is going to be lots of fun to watch over the next few years. However, I don't think Stacey is a more polished receiver than Watkins at this point, but to be honest I'm not really sure what you mean by polished - route running, catching the ball, or total production? Certainly, Watkins had more production at the same point in time in their young careers. Longterm potential would be another discussion entirely.

Stacey and Andre are different types of receivers to me. Both can fly, but remember Andre was 227 pounds while at UM. (http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=205558828) He was literally a freakish athlete. He won the Big East championship in the 60 meters at that weight so his acceleration to top speed was ridiculous.

I remember when AJ came out the scouting reports raved about his athleticism, but in trying to find something to criticism him about the analysts said he "fought the ball into his hands." I was like so long as it gets into his hands what difference does it make. Well at the end of his NFL career he will have fought enough balls into his hands to enter Canton!

Both of these athletes have the same stride and speed. I believe Coley although younger is more polished as a wide receiver. Due to his youth needs 10-15 pounds of muscle to be another Andre Johnson.