South Florida '24 - The RBs

[gogeta4]

I’m not sure why this CIS narrative of tryna downplay South Florida talent is a thing it’s odd to me, Like of course there’s other areas that produce elite talent but SF is still right there near the top of the food chain when it comes to football talent smh

Its because we have been mid or suck and they equate that to south florida talent and not the sh-tty coaching we have had for 20 plus years.

Its also from alot of guys on the board not based in florida.

 

[bshaw28]

Im backkkkkkkk.... @bshaw28

James Cook nfl leader rushing tds frommmm...South Florida. ELITE

You just bumped a thread where you're arguing with me that Henry Parrish is as good as Nick Singleton

It's good to have you back!

 

[gogeta4]

You just bumped a thread where you're arguing with me that Henry Parrish is as good as Nick Singleton

It's good to have you back!

We're speaking on James Cook right now....catch up.

I just stated in 2023 singleton and Parrish had similar stats around the same ypc. Never did i say who was better etc.

I ALSO WAS IN THIS THREAD SAYING ISAAC BROWN WOULD BE THE GOODS AS WELL.

 

[gogeta4]

That being said prepare for another slight dip in sfla rb talent/production in 26. (Cooper is a beast)

The 7 on 7 culture and spread offenses have intensified majorly. Every high school runs spread/air raid.

 

[bshaw28]

We're speaking on James Cook right now....catch up.

I just stated in 2023 singleton and Parrish had similar stats around the same ypc. Never did i say who was better etc.

I ALSO WAS IN THIS THREAD SAYING ISAAC BROWN WOULD BE THE GOODS AS WELL.

I acknowledge South Florida RB talent all the time....

James Cook is absolutely and elite NFL RB. As I said on Page 1 of this thread, he's the only South Florida RB producing at a high level in the NFL.

Brashard Smith killed it this year. I've been defending & hyping him up from Game 1 against people talking trash on him on CIS.

Isaac Brown was an absolute stud this year at Louisville.

I'm all in when a South Florida RB actually is good.

But Henry Parrish and Nate Noel are mid - so when you push that BS narrative, I'll call you on it.

AGAIN - as I said on Page 1 - "South Florida still has a ton of good RB's - they're just obviously not as good as they used to be"

 

[bshaw28]

I just stated in 2023 singleton and Parrish had similar stats around the same ypc. Never did i say who was better etc.

But WHY won't say? I've asked you straight up multiple times.

Can you answer my Philadelphia RB's in comparison to South Florida RB's questions?

1) Do you think Nick Singleton is a better RB than Henry Parrish?

2) Are the Philly NFL RB's - Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, D'Andre Swift, Isiah Pacheco - better than the South Florida NFL RB's - James Cook, Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Khlail Herbert?

These are layups.

 

[RVACane]

We're speaking on James Cook right now....catch up.

I just stated in 2023 singleton and Parrish had similar stats around the same ypc. Never did i say who was better etc.

I ALSO WAS IN THIS THREAD SAYING ISAAC BROWN WOULD BE THE GOODS AS WELL.

I acknowledge South Florida RB talent all the time....

James Cook is absolutely and elite NFL RB. As I said on Page 1 of this thread, he's the only South Florida RB producing at a high level in the NFL.

Brashard Smith killed it this year. I've been defending & hyping him up from Game 1 against people talking trash on him on CIS.

Isaac Brown was an absolute stud this year at Louisville.

I'm all in when a South Florida RB actually is good.

But Henry Parrish and Nate Noel are mid - so when you push that BS narrative, I'll call you on it.

AGAIN - as I said on Page 1 - "South Florida still has a ton of good RB's - they're just obviously not as good as they used to be"

 

[gogeta4]

But WHY won't say? I've asked you straight up multiple times.

Can you answer my Philadelphia RB's in comparison to South Florida RB's questions?

1) Do you think Nick Singleton is a better RB than Henry Parrish?

2) Are the Philly NFL RB's - Saquon Barkley, Jonathan Taylor, D'Andre Swift, Isiah Pacheco - better than the South Florida NFL RB's - James Cook, Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Khlail Herbert?

These are layups.

i think i answered that prior when you initially brought it up. ( I knew it was the only comparable region)

I said that was the region i was shocked about truly.

1.) I have not watched enough Singleton to have an opinion there. I may have watched agrand total of 30 mins of psu games in 3 years. I've seen a good bit of Parrish.
Singleton an Parrihs were similar in 2023. In 2024 with the extra games it looks like Singleton hit 1k. He didnt break much long runs it appears but his ypc went back to similar to his fresh year. Singleton didnt hit hs long rush till he played Boise state last week. Parrish started off hot n looked like he broke down or aint get much yards to finish the szn.

2.) For sure Philly area in the group has it. Im not sure if they will ever have a similar run man. Thats a really good group. South florida looks like it may be putting some more in the league soon if the current trajectory of the current college guys. But i see a dip in the quantity about to hit.

In 2026..Mallory- Cooper are real dudes. I dont know much others past that. Usually at this time i can rail off abut 5. But with the shift to complete air raid/spread in s.fla we seeing it come.

 

[Memnon]

Chauncey Bowens & Isaac Brown will be very good players.

I'm holding out hope that UGA's log jam in the RB room will push Bowens out to the Portal.

"yOu hAtE sOuTh fLoRiDa!"

 

[bshaw28]

1.) I have not watched enough Singleton to have an opinion there. I may have watched agrand total of 30 mins of psu games in 3 years. I've seen a good bit of Parrish.
Singleton an Parrihs were similar in 2023. In 2024 with the extra games it looks like Singleton hit 1k. He didnt break much long runs it appears but his ypc went back to similar to his fresh year. Singleton didnt hit hs long rush till he played Boise state last week. Parrish started off hot n looked like he broke down or aint get much yards to finish the szn.

I had just assumed you watched a good bit of college football - but If you're not even watching the Conference Champ & Playoff games then your responses make more sense.

You said you just looked at the stats, right? After this year - Parrish's stats are nowhere close.

You watched Singleton's highlights, right (Page 2)? It should take maybe 2 minutes into the highlights to realize "ok, yeah, this dude's better than Parrish"

The fact you can't bring yourself to say "Singleton is better than Parrish" is just wild.

I gave you a layup, and you shot your shot

 

[bshaw28]

i think i answered that prior when you initially brought it up. ( I knew it was the only comparable region)

I said that was the region i was shocked about truly.

2.) For sure Philly area in the group has it. Im not sure if they will ever have a similar run man. Thats a really good group. South florida looks like it may be putting some more in the league soon if the current trajectory of the current college guys. But i see a dip in the quantity about to hit.

But you don't know. And how would you or anyone know? I had no clue until I looked them up.

But I did look them up.

Philly is the only region that no question smokes South Florida (again recently - I'm talking from 2015 on).

And there's plenty of other regions that are comparable - Atlanta, LA, Memphis, Houston, even Kansas.

Look - I get it. I do, You coach down here & you've seen these guys since they were kids. You have an emotional interest in them doing well. It's great that there's someone like you that so dialed in and speaking on their behalf/hyping them up.

You've got great insight in and you know your stuff. But your extremely biased opinion distorts reality.

 

[gogeta4]

I had just assumed you watched a good bit of college football - but If you're not even watching the Conference Champ & Playoff games then your responses make more sense.

You said you just looked at the stats, right? After this year - Parrish's stats are nowhere close.

You watched Singleton's highlights, right (Page 2)? It should take maybe 2 minutes into the highlights to realize "ok, yeah, this dude's better than Parrish"

The fact you can't bring yourself to say "Singleton is better than Parrish" is just wild.

I gave you a layup, and you shot your shot

I had just assumed you watched a good bit of college football - but If you're not even watching the Conference Champ & Playoff games then your responses make more sense.

You said you just looked at the stats, right? After this year - Parrish's stats are nowhere close.

You watched Singleton's highlights, right (Page 2)? It should take maybe 2 minutes into the highlights to realize "ok, yeah, this dude's better than Parrish"

The fact you can't bring yourself to say "Singleton is better than Parrish" is just wild.

I gave you a layup, and you shot your shot

i watch an absurd amount of college football.

I HAVE NOT MUCH INTEREST IN WATCHING BIG 10 FOOTBALL .

I watch MAC football over watching big 10 games. I'd check in on an Ohio State game here n there because JJ Smith plays there and i had 2 kids at Maryland i coached.

I'm watching the PSU game right now at Notre dame and only because we play notre dame out the gate next year. I havent been impressed by a run yet but against nd currently he is getting consistent yards though.

He didnt look better than Parrish this year, hes better this year. I mean Kaytron Allen may be the back you should be shilling a bit to because he appears to be more of a natural runner based off of this game so far to me

 

[gogeta4]

But you don't know. And how would you or anyone know? I had no clue until I looked them up.

But I did look them up.

Philly is the only region that no question smokes South Florida (again recently - I'm talking from 2015 on).

And there's plenty of other regions that are comparable - Atlanta, LA, Memphis, Houston, even Kansas.

Look - I get it. I do, You coach down here & you've seen these guys since they were kids. You have an emotional interest in them doing well. It's great that there's someone like you that so dialed in and speaking on their behalf/hyping them up.

You've got great insight in and you know your stuff. But your extremely biased opinion distorts reality.

My aunt n uncle are from Philly and AC.

I had college teammates from Camden, NJ. I check in on their ball quite a bit usually yearly.

I have stated on this board we should recruit NJ/Philly for quite some time.
The funny thing is with ou harping on Parrish...I NEVER WANTED US TO RECRUIT HIM LOL

 

[bshaw28]

My aunt n uncle are from Philly and AC.

I had college teammates from Camden, NJ. I check in on their ball quite a bit usually yearly.

I have stated on this board we should recruit NJ/Philly for quite some time.
The funny thing is with ou harping on Parrish...I NEVER WANTED US TO RECRUIT HIM LOL

IMO there's a lot of things you're saying that seem inconsistent. You can't have it both ways here

1 - You say you're familiar with the Philly area - but also say you've never watched Singleton (until this last game) even though Singleton was the #1 RB, #19 overall player & national player of the year in 2022.

2 - You say that we should recruit the Philly area more, but then act like a great RB from there isn't anything better than Henry Parrish (who you claim you also didn't want). Isn't Singleton the exact type of player we should be going after in this region?

3 - To be clear - you're the one who compared Singleton to Parrish out of nowhere. You bumped this thread. You're the one who won't say Singleton is better than Parrish when he very obviously is.

4 - You absolutely wanted Parrish in 2020. I did too. You probably liked Knighton more (I liked Chaney more), but you & I 100% both wanted him.

 

[itsdolphhh]

Fine then, **** South Florida, we need to exclusively spend all our resources recruiting Philly/PA/NJ.

 

[bshaw28]

Fine then, **** South Florida, we need to exclusively spend all our resources recruiting Philly/PA/NJ.

This misses the point. South Florida is still ONE of the best, it's just no longer THE best like it 100% used to be.

Memphis - Kenneth Walker, Tony Pollard, Darrell Henderson
Atlanta - Jahmyr Gibbs, Tank Bigsby, Antonio Gibson
Houston - De'Von Achane, JK Dobbins, D'Onta Foreman
Memphis - Ty Allgeier, Zach Charbonet, Alexander Mattison
Kansas City - Breece Hall, Rachaad White. Devin Neal & DJ Giddens in this draft
Dallas - In the 2025 draft will have Ashton Jeanty, Damien Martinez & Ollie Gordon

I didn't know these off the top of my head, I had to look. But if you actually do look, you can see they're on a par with South Florida and the assumption that "South Florida is the undisputed best for RB's" is no longer true.

And I just looked at the Top RB's playing int he NFL. I'm sure if I looked deeper I'd find plenty of Travis homer/Kenny McIntosh types.

I'm not saying abandon South Florida. I'm saying we need to be honest/realistic in our evaluations. We need to look everywhere in the US to get talent.

We need to change these 2 Default Settings, because they used to be true, but haven't been for a while:

1 - "If a RB dominates South Florida, he's automatically a stud"
2 - "If we get the top RB out of South Florida each year, we'll have a stacked backfield"

We need to Adapt