Some quick scrimmage notes

[rok]

Superior athletes should play special teams and they will.

The best special teamers are trustworthy (stay in yo lane) and they put forth the most effort.. Jimmy Murphy is probably the best speacial teamer at Miami in the last decade. You trying to tell me he was a superior athlete?

 

[DMoney]

@DMoney Couple things!!

- Did arroyo/Messidor participate in this one?
- any injuries from the scrimmage ?
- do you think our O-Line is stronger in pass block or run block ?

No on Arroyo and Mesidor. I think we are OK with injuries but I've learned to be noncommittal on those issues. OL looks way improved in both, but the running game has really stood out. A lot of pulling like you saw at Oregon.

 

[Buck Dancer]

@DMoney At this stage which side of the ball is stronger in your opinion? Do you expect it to stay the same throughout the year?

 

[DMoney]

@DMoney At this stage which side of the ball is stronger in your opinion? Do you expect it to stay the same throughout the year?

It's hard to say. I would say the offense is the more improved unit year over year based on camp.

 

[Brains]

Harrell may only have 60 catches this year but he’s going to average 20-25 ypc

"Only 60 catches." Have you looked up how many receptions Harrell has in college career?

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

It's hard to say. I would say the offense is the more improved unit year over year based on camp.

How's James Williams look in his new role?

 

[Pentagon Cane]

The best special teamers are trustworthy (stay in yo lane) and they put forth the most effort.. Jimmy Murphy is probably the best speacial teamer at Miami in the last decade. You trying to tell me he was a superior athlete?

Well, no **** they have to be trustworthy. But better athletes result in better special teams play. We are not deep enough to where these guys can sit and these kids are superior athletes.

 

[AUcane]

Well, no **** they have to be trustworthy. But better athletes result in better special teams play. We are not deep enough to where these guys can sit and these kids are superior athletes.

This. I would love it when we stop using walk-ons on our coverage units. We have no excuse this year as we have a lot more guys on the roster that can fill those coveted coverage units (LBs and DBs).

 

[rok]

This. I would love it when we stop using walk-ons on our coverage units. We have no excuse this year as we have a lot more guys on the roster that can fill those coveted coverage units (LBs and DBs).

IMO it's about effort and doing your job. You put some high-profile freshman on the kickoff team and he freelances, you're down 7-0. Some on the WEZ may remember when I accurately predited Hugo Delapinga's blocked punt against Virgnia back in 2015 because of his prowess, not because he was this superior athlete.

 

[DTP]

Out of curiosity and boredom, I started looking for UM receivers who have come close to 60 catches and 20 yards per catch. The closest I found in recent history was Ahmmon Richards who caught 49 passes and averaged 19.1 in 2016.

Andre Johnson was really close in 2002 with 52 receptions at 21.0 yards per catch.

Eddie Brown caught 59 and averaged 18.9 way back in 1984.

 

[NorthEastCane]

I’d agree 60 receptions is rare at UM since we’ve been pro style for the last 50 years..

But at other schools 60 seems like light work. I understand we don’t have a true number 1 but there dudes eclipsing 100 recs

I don't doubt that's true, but until it happens, I won't forecast it.

I'd rather be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Hurracanes]

It's hard to say. I would say the offense is the more improved unit year over year based on camp.

I hear our Defense looks good! I think we are finally going to begin seeing a Miami defense soon.

 

[Rickd]

I hear our Defense looks good! I think we are finally going to begin seeing a Miami defense soon.

Is Riley Williams practicing? This kid could be THE answer to red zone woes. 6'7" and by all accounts a stud athlete.

 

[NorthEastCane]

You guys were all saying 5-7 has consequences, especially following a 20 year run of mediocrity. Well we're seeing it now. But if @DMoney is accurate about the NIL, we may not win most battles for 5 stars, but that doesn't mean we'll be Tommy Boy either.

There are only 32 5*s across all positions, only about 4 of them are DTs. You can be sure the bag schools are all over them. There are numerous 4*s on the next level where we are competing against schools that only occasionally NIL up.

I'm not against going for a bonefide 5* if they think there is a reasonable chance, but our hit rate would be much higher at the next level. That was within our wheelhouse in the 80's and 90's. If evaluations think they can be coached up, it's not settling. It's being strategic. Setting would be getting in late for them and dipping down to low 3*s.

I'm starting to think we'll win 8+ games, close the recruiting cycle strong to end up with a top 10-15 class, which would be a down year but still keep us playoff competitive longer term, then pop back during portal and 2025 to stay in the Top 10 going forward. I know that sounds like a lot of homerism. But Mario is relentless. He just needs more success on the field at Miami to wash away that Gattass stink. Call it excuse making or whatever if you want.

It's not excuse making, it's responding to the market and making necessary adjustments. If they start with why they didn't adjust, then we're threading in excuse territory.

p.s., I still think we land Stone.

 

[Hurricajun]

I hear our Defense looks good! I think we are finally going to begin seeing a Miami defense soon.

I just hope it’s a smart defense. No more Manny “chaos” approach.

 

[Hurracanes]

I just hope it’s a smart defense. No more Manny “chaos” approach.

It’s not that bs.

 

[canecrazy23]

no Don Chaney mentioned throughout camp. Not a peep

Although Cristobal was asked about Allen and Fletcher, he wanted to go out of his way to compliment the duo of Don Chaney and Henry Parrish as well.

"Our running back group, particularly with talents like Don Chaney and Henry Parrish, has showcased tremendous growth and commitment. Don has had an outstanding camp, and the progress Henry has shown is commendable. Their combined skill, along with the competition they've brought, has elevated the entire position. We're optimistic about the depth and diversity they bring to our offense."

 

[grover]

Although Cristobal was asked about Allen and Fletcher, he wanted to go out of his way to compliment the duo of Don Chaney and Henry Parrish as well.

"Our running back group, particularly with talents like Don Chaney and Henry Parrish, has showcased tremendous growth and commitment. Don has had an outstanding camp, and the progress Henry has shown is commendable. Their combined skill, along with the competition they've brought, has elevated the entire position. We're optimistic about the depth and diversity they bring to our offense."

Just want to leave this here. My post from June on Chaney (and Citizen):


"My hot takes are that Chaney is All Conference this season and Citizen comes back 100% by next season to battle for playing time. Whether he can beat out the other guys remains to be seen. But it won’t be because of injury."

Trevonte Citizen injury considered serious [Sep 23 - *may* return this year]

Thankfully we were able to get 2 2023 guys and Allen from the portal. Could never have enough rb depth especially with Chaney and Citizen dealing with injury history.

www.canesinsight.com

 

[chris2183l]

No on Arroyo and Mesidor. I think we are OK with injuries but I've learned to be noncommittal on those issues. OL looks way improved in both, but the running game has really stood out. A lot of pulling like you saw at Oregon.

Is there any concern with either of them missing the start of the season or are they just being cautious with both as they come back from injury?

 

[Brains]

Out of curiosity and boredom, I started looking for UM receivers who have come close to 60 catches and 20 yards per catch. The closest I found in recent history was Ahmmon Richards who caught 49 passes and averaged 19.1 in 2016.

Andre Johnson was really close in 2002 with 52 receptions at 21.0 yards per catch.

Eddie Brown caught 59 and averaged 18.9 way back in 1984.

Correct. Those were some highly talented receivers, I might add. Far more developed skill sets than Harrell's. That said, I am hoping for the best, while eschewing expectations that border on insane delusions of grandeur.