Some names to watch before it’s deleted

[D-anon]

THE ERA IS OVER

Lord have mercy!

We had a LB and special teams coach whose best opportunity is to become a DC at Incarnate Word ????

Manny Diaz sucked

 

[Pentagon Cane]

you know what...good for him getting a DC job.

He got his start at UIW with Banda. Good for him.

 

[2Focusd804]

The reason you don't understand why people prefer a proven coordinator over an unproven coordinator is because you're simply not accounting for the denominator effect. Of course, once upon a time, a really good head coach had never been a head coach before and a really good coordinator had never been a coordinator before. But then you have the denominator: once upon a time, a really ******/average head coach had never been a head coach before and a really ******/average coordinator had never been a coordinator before.

Say you're the head coach of Texas in 2017 and you have to decide between these two candidates: Nick Saban and Tom Herman (a fast riser, described as brilliant and intelligent, extremely successful, and the hottest realistic coach on the market). Who would you pick and why?

Say you're the head coach of Miami in 2021 and you have to decide between these two candidates: Mario Cristobal and Billy Napier. Who would you pick any why?

My pick is Mario. He's proven himself on the P5 level. He's shown that he can build a program up and win conference championships.

Is Billy viewed by many in the industry as a rising star? Yeah, but so was Herman, so was Frost, so were many other young head coaches and coordinators who eventually failed. But Mario hasn't failed, he's already shown you that he can do it. So why roll the dice?

All of this is to say:
(1) I'd be totally fine promoting a well-thought of position coach to coordinator, BUT
(2) it's indisputable that a coach who has already proven himself is much more likely to succeed than a complete unknown. That's why you'd chose Saban over Herman or Cristobal over Napier. Because it's way less of a risk.

The problem with your argument is you make no bias for WHY those coaches failed. The truth is none of those coaches (Herman, Frost) failed as coordinators. Being a HC is a huge difference from being a play caller, and while none of their offense were ranked #1 I don't think anybody with knowledge of their situations would say that offense/play calling were the reason they failed. So why are they being mentioned at all? When has the last time some hot up and coming coordinator truly failed at calling plays?

Even an OC's like Longo who Ole Miss fans hated went to UNC and coordinated some good offenses (even as many of them want him gone for similar issues at Ole Miss.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Lord have mercy!

We had a LB and special teams coach whose best opportunity is to become a DC at Incarnate Word ????

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Manny Diaz sucked

4 years as a position coach to DC at an FCS school. That is a **** good opportunity. UIW went 10-3 and lost in the second round of the FCS playoffs.

 

[htownkidd]

THE ERA IS OVER

Someone literally said either yesterday or day before yesterday that UIW doesn’t even want Patke. Well…


HE SHOWED YOU!!!

Seriously though, good luck Coach.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

If anyone else wants to learn a bit more about Whipple, this is him calling the game vs. USF.

 

[Category69]

you know what...good for him getting a DC job.

Yep good luck to him, wasn't his fault UM had a dollar store budget and he was put in a position where he shouldn't have been.

 

[Koke]

Lord have mercy!

We had a LB and special teams coach whose best opportunity is to become a DC at Incarnate Word ????

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Manny Diaz sucked

Pretty sad that we had to go thru an offseason of lies that this guy was gonna fix our LB problem smh.

 

[TRick72]

Spencer Whipple would be a homerun...

The Cardinals offense at Miami is A+...

If we’re going to take a NFL guy, it needs to be a young innovative guy, not an old fuddy duddy set in his ways.

Dorsey, Brady, Spencer, Kafka, Bleymaier etc are the kinds of NFL guys you want.

I think you’re severely overlooking the appeal of a Cam Cameron, Joe Philbin, Chan Gailey type

 

[KANE]

Him and Dorsey are above this job. “If” we landed eorher it would be a huge pickup on Miami’s part. The only reason we would have a chance is obvious. Dorsey also having a very close relationship with Mario on top of being a Cane. Whipple has shot up the coaching ranks because he’s a brilliant dude. Anyone that knew the guy said he’d be a coach. He‘ll be an NFL oc very soon. I don’t get his logic coming here unless he wants to coach in college.

Facts

 

[KANE]

If the “ never called plays “ crew knew how crazy that thinking is lol. There’s Nfl head coaches all around the league over the years who’s never called a play, not one. Some of the best ever, but the people interviewing / hiring them wanted smart football people.

That’s how you hire.

This!

 

[Tony4Canes]

So, before this gets deleted.

OC names:
Joe Brady
Ken Dorsey
Spencer Whipple
Kendal Briles

 

[insaneinthecane]

what season is this from?

I'm thinking season 3. She has morphed from a ***** wife/mother into a savage & cold blooded killer willing to do anything to save her family in a matter of 2 seasons. I'm really looking forward to season 4

 

[TRick72]

THE ERA IS OVER

Incarnate World making a HUGE mistake not having him work his magic with the specialists

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I'm thinking season 3. She has morphed from a ***** wife/mother into a savage & cold blooded killer willing to do anything to save her family in a matter of 2 seasons. I'm really looking forward to season 4

Oh man I know season four is starting any day, I thought it may have already started, and that was a little bit of a spoiler. I don’t remember her pointing a gun in seasons one through three, but it’s been a couple years since I saw the last episode it seems like. Can’t wait for the new season.

 

[Invalid Username]

Resume building. It's a good chance for him.

Sure. But shows how we had a pee wee football staff at some positions

 

[Odysseus]

So we really hired a ton of assistants but no idea who would be the coordinator to approve these assistants

 

[BeastMode]

So we really hired a ton of assistants but no idea who would be the coordinator to approve these assistants

 

[KANE]

Who would you all prefer to hire between the below matchups?

Spencer Whipple or Warren Ruggiero
Sean Lewis or Kendal Briles
Ken Dorsey or Joe Brady

**** u making this **** too tough, dawg!

 

[Rickd]

We can argue if he would be a HUGE step down but at least Google for five seconds before talking out your *** on ‘definitives’ please. I don’t need any ‘insider’ sources to know you are just clueless lol

With Kliff Kingsbury out with Covid, assistant wide receivers coach Spencer Whipple called plays against Browns

Whipple Capitalized on Opportunity to Call Plays for Cardinals | Sports Illustrated Arizona Cardinals News, Analysis and More

Spencer Whipple may call plays again for Cardinals on Sunday

Arizona Cardinals offensive assistant Spencer Whipple may be filling in for head coach Kliff Kingsbury once again on Sunday against the Houston Texans.

raisingzona.com

Report: Sean Kugler, Spencer Whipple to handle offensive playcalling for Cardinals

Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury is not in Cleveland with the team after testing positive for COVID-19 this week and his absence will lead to changes in duties for some of the team’s assi…

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

“Spencer Whipple is an *excellent playcaller* and has called plays before”
Do. *******. Research. People.

Yeah .. he called plays when the OC was out sick for a game?? That's it?????? He is an assistant WR coach???????