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TheOriginalCane said:
So you think we should, or even could, hire "whoever the top OC is in college right now"? Sure. Because you can do that on PlayStation.
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No, I was just illustrating a point which I guess went over your head.
TheOriginalCane said:
Look, I've already gone on the record as saying I would be fine with Briles. And having no idea whether Mario has offered him, or would ever offer him, I also know that employment contracts are bilateral, and Briles might not want to come to Miami. Therefore, outside of "whoever the top OC is in college right now", we have to be practical and try to hire the best-fitting candidate with mutual interest. And there are reasons why Dorsey and Whipple could have mutual interest that, say, another coach at another school might NOT have.
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Again, Briles was an example, "of many." I'm not fixated on Briles, but I am fixated on someone like Briles.
TheOriginalCane said:
You continue to ignore the reality that Mario has worked as an OC before. Nobody is suggesting that we hire three virgins as HC, OC, and DC. We are also not going to be filling the trophy case with "made a better hire" awards.
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You can continue to ignore the reality that Mario had some pretty bad offenses at Oregon and made some pretty bad OC hires. Just because Mario was a former OC is no guarantee that we're gonna have a good offense here.
TheOriginalCane said:
People like to complain about the hiring delays, but nobody yet has provided the realistic "whoever the top OC is in college right now" name who would entertain a Miami interview, let alone accept a Miami offer. And that is not "woe-is-me-Miami-sucks" thinking, that is just realistic "not-every-coach-wants-every-job" thinking.
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People are complaining because they look to literally every single other college program and all of them have completed their staffs. We haven't and it may cost us a few targets. No one is claiming that every coach wants the Miami job... we're just pointing out that there are so many good ones and surely a few of them want the Miami job...
TheOriginalCane said:
I'm tired of this fake bullcrap. Nobody is saying "don't hire Briles". Except, maybe, Mario. And if Mario is OK with hiring Dorsey or Whipple, I'm OK with it. Because we need MARIO to be comfortable with his own hire, not "a majority of CIS geniuses".
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Seems like we agree then? Strange comment. I never claimed someone said don't hire Briles. He's just my preference over an unproven position coach, which I guess freaks you out for some reason lmao
TheOriginalCane said:
Because, to be honest, and with an HONEST "with all due respect", YOUR "preference" really doesn't matter. Mario's does.
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This is a message board. Of course my opinion won't make a difference. Neither will your opinion. But we come on here to talk about football. To share our thoughts. To cheerlead and to criticize... again not sure how that's relevant to our overall discussion.
 
CanesNation26 said:
It's hilarious. You quote a post where I say the exact opposite lmfao. I would like the Whipple and Dorsey hire. I said that in the post you quoted and 5 million other times. I just prefer someone who's already proven they're very successful because ultimately we want Whipple and Dorsey to be very successful...

I'll try one more time and try not to use math terms (I guess they make u feel small, idk). Lets say we add up every instance where:
(A) a coordinator who's coached multiple 25 offenses accepted a job at a new school, and
(B) a position coach who's never been a coordinator accepted a job at a new school.

And then we looked at which pool of coordinators were more successful, on average (don't freak out, I know I said average), those in A and or those in B. Which pool of candidates do you think performed better, on average?

The answer is obvious. The logic is obvious.
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Look, I'm not even going to get into the "yeah, I'd like the newbies, but what I'd really, really prefer is some old grizzled vet" argument.

Life is not a spreadsheet where you sum up probabilities. I don't "feel small" with math terms, it's literally what I do for a job.

But I also know Mario and don't think he is going to use Excel to hire his coordinators. So if you want to tell him that your math terms make him "feel small", that's your choice. He is going off of a lot of different factors, having nothing to do with the sum of probabilities.

But feel free to carry on with your genius and obvious "logic".

You really need to ask Bender if you can use a robot avatar, because you are "obviously" struggling with human emotion and instincts. And someday, when someone entrusts you to hire people, I'd love to see your spreadsheets summarizing the candidates.
 
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Cribby said:
Whipple earned his way up the ranks. Kubiak had a HC daddy leading his trajectory. You see what happened once Whipple got to Arizona? How many Ast Wr coaches are handed the play sheet to ball games when the HC is out? He’s a dude is why. That’s just my opinion.
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You’re probably right. Kingsbury wouldn’t just give some ******* that much authority of his offense.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Look, I'm not even going to get into the "yeah, I'd like the newbies, but what I'd really, really prefer is some old grizzled vet" argument.

Life is not a spreadsheet where you sum up probabilities. I don't "feel small" with math terms, it's literally what I do for a job.

But I also know Mario and don't think he is going to use Excel to hire his coordinators. So if you want to tell him that your math terms make him "feel small", that's your choice. He is going off of a lot of different factors, having nothing to do with the sum of probabilities.

But feel free to carry on with your genius and obvious "logic".

You really need to ask Bender if you can use a robot avatar, because you are "obviously" struggling with human emotion and instincts. And someday, when someone entrusts you to hire people, I'd love to see your spreadsheets summarizing the candidates.
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lmfao you make extremely wild claims psychologist OCane. I simply prefer a candidate with proven results. Usually a candidate who has an impressive track record is a culture fit and personality fit at most places. Those factors contributed to their past success... You're now arguing because I prefer a candidate with proven results, I'm a robot who doesn't care about culture fit and personality fit. I want someone with all three obviously. Stop moving the goalposts and attacking me personally. It makes you look stupid and unconfident in your argument. Just say you disagree with my philosophy and move on.
 
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CanesNation26 said:
lmfao you make extremely wild claims. I simply prefer a candidate with proven results. Usually a candidate who has an impressive track record is a culture fit and personality fit at most places. Those factors contributed to their success... You're now arguing because I prefer a candidate with proven results, I'm a robot who doesn't care about culture fit and personality fit. I want someone with all three obviously. Stop moving the goalposts and attacking me personally. It makes you look stupid and unconfident in your argument. Just say you disagree with my philosophy and move on.
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Stop going down the TOC rabbit hole and just move on 😂😂
 
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Cribby said:
Miami and Mario are the only reason it would happen.
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And mamma's calling. Quite frankly it will be easier to get a college head coaching job in 3 years if they succeed in Miami. From position coach to coordinator is a long conga line and from coordinator to head coach is even longer in the NFL. The NFL loves to recycle **** and it also only has 32 positions. A very successful P5 coordinator is going to get a serious look at a P5 head coaching job. The market salary is through the roof and there are 65 positions. BTW Dabroll makes $1.4M. McDaniel who has been recycled multiple times makes $4 million. He stays employed because of Father Bill. $4 million is now rapidly approaching minimum for a college P5 head coach. Job stability in the NFL isn't great either especially for first time head coaches, even coordinators. You'll get 4 years in college in almost all cases. You are lucky to get 2 in the NFL.
 
Liberty City El said:
Spencer Whipple would be a homerun...

The Cardinals offense at Miami is A+...

If we’re going to take a NFL guy, it needs to be a young innovative guy, not an old fuddy duddy set in his ways.

Dorsey, Brady, Spencer, Kafka, Bleymaier etc are the kinds of NFL guys you want.
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F^ck it if LCE is good on it, that's enough for me.

I'm about 1.5 quarters through Whipple's UMass vs. USF game, and I must say I am impressed thus far. It's pretty creative...
 
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