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Dre said:
You co-signing Lebron not being one of the goats? What's your top 5?
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Personally I don't like the whole goat debate , I just get more annoyed with the Lbj stuff especially with his epic chokes. The way I see it every era has its goat / goats . You can't compare eras especially with how wide open offensive basketball and football are.

Every great player ripped their game off another player or at least dabbled . Kobe ripped from Mj to the point he had the same mannerisms and expressions. Lbj obvious took from Magic, Bird , Mj. MJ was influenced by David Thompson , Dr J and the iceman. So it's hard to say one is the goat when it keeps evolving and you're taking from other guys before you . Like Brady - Montana.

Imo after Jordan it was Duncan and Kobe. Those guys were either or. There was a period most thought Tim was the guy. LBj obviously took the mantle after them and imo if healthy Durant or Antekoupo are the current guys. Jokic is another one that blows me away how much he controls the game.

My goats are MJ, bird, Magic , Duncan , Kobe, Kareem, Moses , Hakeem and Lbj. During my lifetime all those guys at some point were considered the best player in the world. And it's by eras. I think thats the most logical and fair way of doing it. Imo.
 
nycane said:
Dude no one who's not a basketball fan pays attention to LeBron. Steph curry brings non-basketball fans to the game, LeBron doesnt.
MICHAEL JORDAN was an icon around the world w/o social media. MJ was 10 times as famous as LeBron. Magic/Bird was a household rivalry. LeBron ruined the NBA. you cant have someone the face of your league who has no appeal to non-traditional fans. Also, lets stop like he's some world leader. He talks like a 16 year old all incoherent and uninformed. Guys like Ali, Jim Brown, Kareem, etc were respected even by people who disagreed with them.
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LeBron literally has 80 million more followers on Instagram than Steph Curry. But nobody outside of basketball cares about LeBron and they all care about curry? Lol

You hate him. That’s fine. I don’t even love LeBron hate how he has been petty everywhere he’s gone. And his hypocritical China stuff is a bad look. But he’s the second greatest basketball player of all time and his work with the I Promise School and other social issues are inspiring. Not to mention he grew up in a really tense environment with no father figure. He ain’t ******* soft.
 
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jnf2257 said:
LeBron literally has 80 million more followers on Instagram than Steph Curry. But nobody outside of basketball cares about LeBron and they all care about curry? Lol

You hate him. That’s fine. I don’t even love LeBron hate how he has been petty everywhere he’s gone. And his hypocritical China stuff is a bad look. But he’s the second greatest basketball player of all time and his work with the I Promise School and other social issues are inspiring. Not to mention he grew up in a really tense environment with no father figure. He ain’t ******* soft.
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hes not 2nd all time. top 10 is a legit argument. he's not top 10. Who cares about instagram? people buy followers lol
I'd never have him over Bird, Magic, Kobe, MJ. put him at 5, thats fine but he's not over them IMO.
I also think TIM DUNCAN is wildly underrated. Im going off of players I have seen.
 
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Cribby said:
Bosh like love was destroyed playing with LBJ. He had to become a three point shooter and leave the post. He said that himself. He became one dimensional to fit into lbj’s world. He actually said he made himself a perimeter player to make it work. He was a top ten player but playing with Lbj does that. Same reason Kyrie said f playing with this dude, he gets all the excuse and the other guys get the blame. Lose lose:


Yall lbj stans hate the truth with your boy. He quit that series like he has multiple times when he knows his back against the wall.
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Ok, cause Kyrie has won so much more since he said, “fucc playing with him.”, right? Not a LBJ Stan, but **** I see a bunch of piling on in here. Agree with your take on Bosh, tho. He had to change his game, the most, to play and win wit LBJ. But Everybody has to change their game a bit, when asked to play with a ball dominant superstar. You don’t think KD had to change his game a bit to play with Steph and Clay? It happens.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Your life depends on one basketball game. You will literally be shot in the head if your team loses.

Four of your players are picked for you, and for the fifth you have a choice between LeBron or Michael Jordan.

Who do you pick?

If you say anybody other than Michael Jordan you’re a fūcking liar.

That settles it right there.
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Not sure if anyone’s posted this in reply to your post but I’m not looking through 30+ pages
 
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nycane said:
hes not 2nd all time. top 10 is a legit argument. he's not top 10. Who cares about instagram? people buy followers lol
I'd never have him over Bird, Magic, Kobe, MJ. put him at 5, thats fine but he's not over them IMO.
I also think TIM DUNCAN is wildly underrated. Im going off of players I have seen.
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LeBron James is not a top 10 all time player is the dumbest serious basketball take I have ever heard and I thank you because I have screenshotted your post to laugh at for the rest of time. Thank you.
 
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jnf2257 said:
LeBron James is not a top 10 all time player is the dumbest serious basketball take I have ever heard and I thank you because I have screenshotted your post to laugh at for the rest of time. Thank you.
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I said top 10 is a legit argument. I named 4 players I've seen over him that I would take over him. Personally, I'd take Duncan too because lebron becomes a cancer when things dont go his way.
 
KANE said:
Ok, cause Kyrie has won so much more since he said, “fucc playing with him.”, right? Not a LBJ Stan, but **** I see a bunch of piling on in here. Agree with your take on Bosh, tho. He had to change his game, the most, to play and win wit LBJ. But Everybody has to change their game a bit, when asked to play with a ball dominant superstar. You don’t think KD had to change his game a bit to play with Steph and Clay? It happens.
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There’s a reason most free agents would never join Lbj. It’s no secret you’ll always be the goat ( in a bad way). No matter what , you’re in a lose lose. If you win it’s because of LBJ, if you lose it’s Love, Bosh , Wade Kyrie on down the roster. Nobody wants to call out the most powerful player in the league, only Skip does it and that’s schtick. Bosh and Love went from double double machine and really good players to standing on the three point line all game because they didn’t know what to do. Then they’d get destroyed when they lost. Kyrie was like F all this. This guy is the GM and answers to nobody lol.
 
Cribby said:
There’s a reason most free agents would never join Lbj. It’s no secret you’ll always be the goat ( in a bad way). No matter what , you’re in a lose lose. If you win it’s because of LBJ, if you lose it’s Love, Bosh , Wade Kyrie on down the roster. Nobody wants to call out the most powerful player in the league, only Skip does it and that’s schtick. Bosh and Love went from double double machine and really good players to standing on the three point line all game because they didn’t know what to do. Then they’d get destroyed when they lost. Kyrie was like F all this. This guy is the GM and answers to nobody lol.
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D wade took over how many games when heat were in trouble? Paul George was digging in lebron. Eddie House said against Dallas he quit. we all saw him quit against the Celtics. im sick of them acting like he's in the convo with MJ.
 
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