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AlexCane

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Anyone else notice that this offense has not executed/finished drives consistently in the first halves? The offense is the least of our concerns, but if they could consistently finish drives in the 1st H, they'd at least make it easier for a defense that needs every bit of help it can get.

Since Ball St., we have scored more points in the 2H than in the 1H in each and every game. And these are not late garbage scores.

USF-22/28
VT-17/21
Cal-10/29
UL-24/28
FSU-17/19
Duke-17/36
GT-10/13

I don't know how to research 1st H yards against 2nd H yards, but I'd bet we likely have more yards in the 2H than 1H.

Our halftime margins:

USF +7
VT -7
Cal -11
UL +7
FSU +10
Duke -4
GT -4

Against GT we had drives in the 1H end at GT 23 (FG), GT 49, GT 23, MIA 47. We're moving the ball but not finishing. This really killed us against GT. By not being able to finish, we let GT run what they wanted to run on offense. If we finish a couple of these drives, maybe we get GT a little nervous and out of their comfort zone and get them passing the ball. Instead, we played a slogging, tight contest. I don't want this D playing in 1 score games. We can't rely on them.

I love Cam's nonchalant style--it makes him who he is. That said, a little more urgency early might serve this team better. Otherwise, not really sure how to explain an offense that plays markedly better in the 2H than 1H. But we got to find a way to open up some leads early.
 

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If we can get more creative in the run game it will mean so much. We’ve relied so much on just overpowering the other team and when that doesn’t work, we get behind the sticks. Then we bring out them wack *** screens.

We’ve ran two jet sweeps all year it seems. We ignore Ajay Allen, who hits the lanes quicker than Fletcher n Martinez.

We don’t try to get to the edges.
 
Cam missed a wide open Arroyo on second drive for a TD. Instead he threw it into double coverage and that ended the drive. That was big. He connects there and it could be a different story because that would have been 2TD in 2 drives. That would have put plenty of doubt in the GT defense. That game just sucked on so many levels. Let's hope for a big rebound against Wake to get that nasty taste out of our mouths.
 
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Shooter McGavin said:
They also run the play clock all the way down too in the first half which blows my mind
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I'm wondering if this offense has to go tempo from here on out. I think teams are going to grind the clock against Miami, like GT and others, and we need to do our best on offense to limit drain. If the offense has time it will score but you can't reduce our possessions.
 
We actually typically start off well, but sometimes it bogs down in the second quarter.

We’ve scored TDs on one of our first two drives in every game this season.
 
hurricaneman said:
I'm wondering if this offense has to go tempo from here on out. I think teams are going to grind the clock against Miami, like GT and others, and we need to do our best on offense to limit drain. If the offense has time it will score but you can't reduce our possessions.
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Something Miami hasn’t done in ACC play is bury teams when they had the chance. Just like in 2017 so many opportunities early then they let teams hang around.

Go uptempo early and often.
 
Maybe because we never seem to out scheme anyone. Really can be said for the offense and defense. When was the last time there was any plays that set up other plays? VT P/A to Arrroyo in the first half? Before that, the eye candy motion then out to George against A&M and BC last year down at the goal line? Nothing ever seems easy with Dawsons plan.

Yes part of it is because Cam doesn’t take the easy throw but I think Dawsons scheme a lot of times makes it more difficult than it needs to be. We had success running off tackle so we just stopped doing it.
 
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AlexCane said:
Anyone else notice that this offense has not executed/finished drives consistently in the first halves? The offense is the least of our concerns, but if they could consistently finish drives in the 1st H, they'd at least make it easier for a defense that needs every bit of help it can get.

Since Ball St., we have scored more points in the 2H than in the 1H in each and every game. And these are not late garbage scores.

USF-22/28
VT-17/21
Cal-10/29
UL-24/28
FSU-17/19
Duke-17/36
GT-10/13

I don't know how to research 1st H yards against 2nd H yards, but I'd bet we likely have more yards in the 2H than 1H.

Our halftime margins:

USF +7
VT -7
Cal -11
UL +7
FSU +10
Duke -4
GT -4

Against GT we had drives in the 1H end at GT 23 (FG), GT 49, GT 23, MIA 47. We're moving the ball but not finishing. This really killed us against GT. By not being able to finish, we let GT run what they wanted to run on offense. If we finish a couple of these drives, maybe we get GT a little nervous and out of their comfort zone and get them passing the ball. Instead, we played a slogging, tight contest. I don't want this D playing in 1 score games. We can't rely on them.

I love Cam's nonchalant style--it makes him who he is. That said, a little more urgency early might serve this team better. Otherwise, not really sure how to explain an offense that plays markedly better in the 2H than 1H. But we got to find a way to open up some leads early.
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Good points, but not sure it was an issue this week. GT made a mockery of our defense on opening possession (crazy, yet maybe we need to put O on field first when winning toss). Our offense quickly responded. Later in half believe we lost a potential scoring drive when obvious pass interference wasn’t called. Then, believe still in first half, defense couldn’t get off field on 11 minute drive. GT dominated time of possession - thanks D - so also factors into the offensive performance. Offense doesn’t get a pass, but obvious issue is a frustratingly poor defense.
 
We usually miss 2 wide open verts on our 2nd and 3rd drives of the game that would scores.

Or we get holding calls during the scramble drill.
 
we dont have a good script to start games and we dont actually out scheme anyone. we rely on cam being cam which has made this offense elite.
 
bacane said:
Good points, but not sure it was an issue this week. GT made a mockery of our defense on opening possession (crazy, yet maybe we need to put O on field first when winning toss). Our offense quickly responded. Later in half believe we lost a potential scoring drive when obvious pass interference wasn’t called. Then, believe still in first half, defense couldn’t get off field on 11 minute drive. GT dominated time of possession - thanks D - so also factors into the offensive performance. Offense doesn’t get a pass, but obvious issue is a frustratingly poor defense.
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we had no time in the second quarter bc of that 10 min possession. that killed the offensive flow bc even on our second drive we moved down the field w ease. after that, we ran into the 85 bears.

our d man - **** all of those coaches
 
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hoops156 said:
we had no time in the second quarter bc of that 10 min possession. that killed the offensive flow bc even on our second drive we moved down the field w ease. after that, we ran into the 85 bears.

our d man - **** all of those coaches
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And we gave them a 10 min possession because we play bend then break defense.
 
hoops156 said:
we dont have a good script to start games and we dont actually out scheme anyone. we rely on cam being cam which has made this offense elite.
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I can’t not say something when I read this

We have scored on the first or second possession of the game in EVERY GAME this season

Our first drive scoring percentage is 80% (6 TDS and 2 FGs)

The Vt game we fumbled on the first possession and scored on the 2nd

The Cal game was the only game where a team made us punt on the opening possession all year long and we did not go 3 and out

Let’s just be consistent with the criticism
 
JHallCanes said:
I can’t not say something when I read this

We have scored on the first or second possession of the game in EVERY GAME this season

Our first drive scoring percentage is 80% (6 TDS and 2 FGs)

The Vt game we fumbled on the first possession and scored on the 2nd

The Cal game was the only game where a team made us punt on the opening possession all year long and we did not go 3 and out

Let’s just be consistent with the criticism
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fair enough. tho the duke td on the first possession was more cam being cam than a draw up lol
 
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hoops156 said:
fair enough. tho the duke td on the first possession was more cam being cam than a draw up lol
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Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to make it seem like something it’s not

Just saying I doubt anyone in the country comes out more prepared on offense than we have

Something weird happens in that late first and second quarter area though when the first adjustments are made. Even the announcers brought it up this week
 
AlexCane said:
Anyone else notice that this offense has not executed/finished drives consistently in the first halves? The offense is the least of our concerns, but if they could consistently finish drives in the 1st H, they'd at least make it easier for a defense that needs every bit of help it can get.

Since Ball St., we have scored more points in the 2H than in the 1H in each and every game. And these are not late garbage scores.

USF-22/28
VT-17/21
Cal-10/29
UL-24/28
FSU-17/19
Duke-17/36
GT-10/13

I don't know how to research 1st H yards against 2nd H yards, but I'd bet we likely have more yards in the 2H than 1H.

Our halftime margins:

USF +7
VT -7
Cal -11
UL +7
FSU +10
Duke -4
GT -4

Against GT we had drives in the 1H end at GT 23 (FG), GT 49, GT 23, MIA 47. We're moving the ball but not finishing. This really killed us against GT. By not being able to finish, we let GT run what they wanted to run on offense. If we finish a couple of these drives, maybe we get GT a little nervous and out of their comfort zone and get them passing the ball. Instead, we played a slogging, tight contest. I don't want this D playing in 1 score games. We can't rely on them.

I love Cam's nonchalant style--it makes him who he is. That said, a little more urgency early might serve this team better. Otherwise, not really sure how to explain an offense that plays markedly better in the 2H than 1H. But we got to find a way to open up some leads early.
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More tempo and urgency from the O in 1,2qtrs.
 
JHallCanes said:
Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to make it seem like something it’s not

Just saying I doubt anyone in the country comes out more prepared on offense than we have

Something weird happens in that late first and second quarter area though when the first adjustments are made. Even the announcers brought it up this week
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the biggest issue with Dawson is that he seems to not know how to merry the run and pass game (as been said all year here). there is no cohesion between the two nor any rhyme or reason to either or when he pulls them out. its just a grab bag. also, for the love god end the screens
 
hoops156 said:
the biggest issue with Dawson is that he seems to not know how to merry the run and pass game (as been said all year here). there is no cohesion between the two nor any rhyme or reason to either or when he pulls them out. its just a grab bag. also, for the love god end the screens
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What is more odd about it is when Cam suddenly can’t hit open guys. Happened quite a bit on Saturday

Its just weird when this offense stumbles because it looks so unstoppable sometimes

Anyway, I get what you’re saying. I think we are going to need a lot of points the next two games so hopefully we clean it up on offense. Defense is a lost cause but the offense can still carry us
 
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