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Shannon Dawson is the New OC/QB Coach

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I hope this isn't a blip against lesser talent. It's difficult to imagine a consistent offense with a QB in complete command.

Love the attitude, and Van Dyke seems comfortable. I'm not worried about the run game, I feel like more on-field gel time will craft nicely.
 
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grover said:
20/20 hindsight, those two coordinator hires were well worth the wait.

I've been on the Mario bus ever since his name was first floated. My only disagreements with him to date were that he didn't fire Gattass mid-season and that he didn't replace the staff quickly enough.

Mario had to have known in October that Gattass was dead man walking and by Duke that Steele had lost a step. So why'd it take him so f-ing long to hire Dawson? Why'd he have to steal Guidry away from Tulane at the last minute vs taking him straight from Marshall (we probably would have gotten Sam, that safety that went to LSU if he had)? The only explanation is Mario was shooting for much bigger names and we didn't get them. Honestly, I'm happy we didn't.

As far as Mario overriding coordinators, I think that ship has sailed. He's freed up to do what he does best -- lead, establish a culture of relentlessness, recruit like a bat out of ****, pair up with Mirabal to develop the best OL in the nation. The fly wheel is now in motion.
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Not how Mario operates. He gave them both time to find a new job and when Gattis came up empty he knew he had to pull the plug.
 
AUcane said:
It will be interesting to see. From what I udnerstand, Dawson's offenses are WR dominant and TE is not featured a lot. RBs may get involved but the essence of the offense is through the WRs. Dawson did not use the TE much in Houston but my sense is that he hasn't had a guy like Arroyo to use in his offenses.

Would love to see how he involves the TEs and RBs more in the passing game.
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you haven’t seen anything yet. In my talks with coach he singled out 3 guys The first name out of his mouth arroyo, the second was George and 3rd was young. You’ve seen two of those guys featured so far
 
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Don’t start adjusting expectations and moving the goal posts now. If someone told you we’d be 3-0 with the TAMU dub and TVD was the highest rated QB in the nation, we’d all say Dawson is doing an A+ job.

Job is FAR from finished but up to this point, he’s killed it.
 
OL has played well, but TVD will face better pressure than the Aggies had to offer, despite their *****. FSU and Clemson will test that.

But I'm hopeful. Adding the the playbook doesn't happen when you play poorly. You have to get that stuff right first. We should move forward during the season - which hasn't happened here for a while
 
The Dawson hire was a great one just based on the simple fact that if Gattless was still here we woulda lost to TAMU, again.

He could completely tank the rest of the season (which he obviously won’t) & I wouldn’t care at all.

He got us our revenge against Jumbo Fisher’s Corch *** & he did it by THROWING THE BALL! We didn’t play safe & sound conservative live to fight another day-ball, we played Fck YOU WE WIN NOW-ball & that’s all that matters.

I was 100% on board with Dawson when he was hired as evidenced by this thread & many others, but I didn’t actually think he was even in consideration or would get hired. I thought for sure Mario was going to settle given how long the search took, but once it was Dawson, it was a Homerun.

Idk how long he stays here, but enjoy him now while we got’em.

Can’t wait to see what he schemes up against FSU’s slow *** Secondary, he’s gonna have a field day with that one!
 
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Memnon said:
The Dawson hire was a great one just based on the simple fact that if Gattless was still here we woulda lost to TAMU, again.

He could completely tank the rest of the season (which he obviously won’t) & I wouldn’t care at all.

He got us our revenge against Jumbo Fisher’s Corch *** & he did it by THROWING THE BALL! We didn’t play safe & sound conservative live to fight another day-ball, we played Fck YOU WE WIN NOW-ball & that’s all that matters.

I was 100% on board with Dawson when he was hired as evidenced by this thread & many others, but I didn’t actually think he was even in consideration or would get hired. I thought for sure Mario was going to settle given how long the search took, but once it was Dawson, it was a Homerun.

Idk how long he stays here, but enjoy him now while we got’em.

Can’t wait to see what he schemes up against FSU’s slow *** Secondary, he’s gonna have a field day with that one!
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Especially with the way this offensive line can protect. IMO the FSU defense is very much like the A&M defense, that he obviously torched. I expect a lot of max protect, let TVD stand in the middle of Doak and have a sandwich while our WRs eat their DBs alive.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Especially with the way this offensive line can protect. IMO the FSU defense is very much like the A&M defense, that he obviously torched. I expect a lot of max protect, let TVD stand in the middle of Doak and have a sandwich while our WRs eat their DBs alive.
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A&M’s defense is much better than FSU’s, IMO.
 
Hurracanes said:
A&M’s defense is much better than FSU’s, IMO.
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FSU’s Pass rush is better, but their Secondary is much worse.

They gave up over 300yds passing to Boston College & Casellanos isn’t even a high grade passer. He’s a 5’10 Running QB that mostly makes plays with his legs. They also gave up 346yds passing to LSU.

The DLine is the strength of that Defense, but on the backend it’s routes open all day.
 
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Memnon said:
FSU’s Pass rush is better, but their Secondary is much worse.

They gave up over 300yds passing to Boston College & Casellanos isn’t even a high grade passer. He’s a 5’10 Running QB that mostly makes plays with his legs. They also gave up 346yds passing to LSU.

The DLine is the strength of that Defense, but on the backend it’s routes open all day.
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jared verse has looked suspect all year

he's gonna regret coming back this year when he's stonewalled against that Miami OL
 
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E1k said:
Idk why lol
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I mean from the outside looking in I understand your stance but we really had a lot of talent returning. And the kid we thought was our best pure talent is a year older in Matthew golden. He was a top 100 player at WR in hs class before he got the UH commit drop. There’s talent on the team. We produce nfl talent every year and replace at one position or the other here lately. Losing tune and tank was not supposed to have us like this with what we returned period
 
JustAFanHTX said:
I mean from the outside looking in I understand your stance but we really had a lot of talent returning. And the kid we thought was our best pure talent is a year older in Matthew golden. He was a top 100 player at WR in hs class before he got the UH commit drop. There’s talent on the team. We produce nfl talent every year and replace at one position or the other here lately. Losing tune and tank was not supposed to have us like this with what we returned period
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Can’t argue against this but like u said from the outside looking in, any team that looses a 2 year starter at qb and a wr that had 90 then 108 catches plus the OC leaves? A fall off is coming, probably shouldn’t be this bad but unless u bama a fall off is coming
 
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Hurracanes said:
A&M’s defense is much better than FSU’s, IMO.
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I actually watched both , and I would agree. Now how that works out, we'll see. But I thought depth, speed on the edge, was slanted to Tejas. I think FSU gets a much better push with their inside guys. Tejas also looked faster across the board on defense.
 
I don't think you have to be an X's and O's guy to recognize that great OCs run plays in certain moments that make you guy, "geez, what a great play". It's been that way ever since I started watching football. You can just tell, based on play calling, when a guy is in a zone. That Texas A&M game had a handful of times where it was clear he was playing chess.

Too many OCs are like, "I'm gonna do this til it works god da***!!!"
 
Memnon said:
FSU’s Pass rush is better, but their Secondary is much worse.

They gave up over 300yds passing to Boston College & Casellanos isn’t even a high grade passer. He’s a 5’10 Running QB that mostly makes plays with his legs. They also gave up 346yds passing to LSU.

The DLine is the strength of that Defense, but on the backend it’s routes open all day.
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This is what I meant. I don’t fully agree with @Hurracanes that the A&M defense is much better than FSU’s, as I think DJ Durkin is a complete donkey and Adam Fuller is probably average, but I don’t think either unit is great.

What I meant more with my point is they’re similar in how they’re talented through the levels. A&M’s DL > their LBs > their DBs. I feel the same about FSU. And that’s why I feel the game plan will be similar. Both units can be attacked the same way.
 
Random, but does anyone know how to find explosive play stats? Is there a site that shows how many 25+ yard plays we have etc?
 
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