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Rellyrell said:
I hate to be that guy, but many know I’m pretty connected to this sector of sports.

Tessitore is an employee of ESPN, whose parent company is Disney, the same Disney that paid $3b for exclusive rights to this conference. It’s in ESPN’s interest to shill for their product.

Go to Fox, & they’ll shill how Travis Hunter is the best player in America & is the foregone winner of the Heisman. Why? B/c Fox is in bed w/ the Big XII. Go to CBS, Fox, or NBC, & u’ll hear how Dillon Gabriel is the best QB in America, who could’ve been a NFL pick, but chose to come back to prove he’s a bonafide 1st RD pick; why? B/c it’s $7b invested here.

U forget the guys calling the games r part unbiased, but whole part company men. I’ve been in the booth pre game when ESPN had Arena football, & I got a behind the scenes look on talkIng points. The moment u hear “producer” it means there’s certain scripts to be followed. It’s entertainment, bro.

The days of John Madden, Pat Summerall, Keith Jackson, etc. r long gone. U’re going to get a whole slew of loud mouth talking heads, & ex players from these conferences.
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You are exactly right. This is from ESPN's playoff contract announcement.

"ESPN agreed to a six year 7.8 BILLION contract that ensures the network will remain the sole media rights holder of the event through the 2031-32 season".

"ESPN also secured a six-year agreement that will cost $1.3 billion annually beginning in the 2026-27 season and includes exclusive rights to all rounds of the expanded playoff along with continued exclusive rights to all programming connected to the CFP, such as the CFP selection show, weekly Top 25 ranking shows and more."

The CFP selection show gives them the opportunity to set the narrative, which is ALWAYS about how the SEC is so great. They get to label teams as over/under rated immediately after the rankings are released. They had Heather Dinich come on the show specifically to talk about 3 loss SEC teams getting in. They also discussed why the SEC runner up can't be punished for losing, while the ACC runner up can be.

They have a financial interest in the success of the SEC and they're going to promote their product no matter what.
 
E1k said:
It’s common sense to anyone who can think past the surface level lol. When we are good they hype us all game and the same people complaining about it love it.

The commentators have a script to follow, its certain things they have to repeat & push to the viewers and if they don’t the producers are probably in their ear yelling.
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Yeah, that’s exactly what happens. It’s a complete production, & certain talking points must be adhered to. It’s brand awareness, & brand protection.
 
TrumpyCane friend who is a Texas A&M grad last night when UGA was losing 17-0

“Oh UGA doesn’t care, next week more important”

SEC loses game and excuse everytime is “they didn’t care”
 
Rellyrell said:
I hate to be that guy, but many know I’m pretty connected to this sector of sports.

Tessitore is an employee of ESPN, whose parent company is Disney, the same Disney that paid $3b for exclusive rights to this conference. It’s in ESPN’s interest to shill for their product.

Go to Fox, & they’ll shill how Travis Hunter is the best player in America & is the foregone winner of the Heisman. Why? B/c Fox is in bed w/ the Big XII. Go to CBS, Fox, or NBC, & u’ll hear how Dillon Gabriel is the best QB in America, who could’ve been a NFL pick, but chose to come back to prove he’s a bonafide 1st RD pick; why? B/c it’s $7b invested here.

U forget the guys calling the games r part unbiased, but whole part company men. I’ve been in the booth pre game when ESPN had Arena football, & I got a behind the scenes look on talkIng points. The moment u hear “producer” it means there’s certain scripts to be followed. It’s entertainment, bro.

The days of John Madden, Pat Summerall, Keith Jackson, etc. r long gone. U’re going to get a whole slew of loud mouth talking heads, & ex players from these conferences.
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I know this is a dead horse but to your above points this is really why we need to consider moving conferences maybe even to the BIG12. The media machine put behind these players in the other 3 conferences definitely gives a competitive advantage in ranking, recruiting, and overall exposure to media.

Cam puts up those numbers primetime weekly on ESPN, CBS, or FOX there is no way he would be left off some of these award list because the networks would be pushing his brand too.
 
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SCarolina Ibis said:
You are exactly right. This is from ESPN's playoff contract announcement.

"ESPN agreed to a six year 7.8 BILLION contract that ensures the network will remain the sole media rights holder of the event through the 2031-32 season".

"ESPN also secured a six-year agreement that will cost $1.3 billion annually beginning in the 2026-27 season and includes exclusive rights to all rounds of the expanded playoff along with continued exclusive rights to all programming connected to the CFP, such as the CFP selection show, weekly Top 25 ranking shows and more."

The CFP selection show gives them the opportunity to set the narrative, which is ALWAYS about how the SEC is so great. They get to label teams as over/under rated immediately after the rankings are released. They had Heather Dinich come on the show specifically to talk about 3 loss SEC teams getting in. They also discussed why the SEC runner up can't be punished for losing, while the ACC runner up can be.

They have a financial interest in the success of the SEC and they're going to promote their product no matter what.
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This is why the powers that be in college football should come together and protect their product like the NFL does theirs. The NFL dictates to their broadcast partners how their game is broadcast and internal matters (i.e. playoffs) are conducted.

With each conference negotiating their own TV deals and working in their own self interests, you get the inevitable preferential treatment of one over the other. It's very tough to do though. There aren't many Pete Rozelle's in the world anymore.
 
CaneinBroward said:
This is why the powers that be in college football should come together and protect their product like the NFL does theirs. The NFL dictates to their broadcast partners how their game is broadcast and internal matters (i.e. playoffs) are conducted.

With each conference negotiating their own TV deals and working in their own self interests, you get the inevitable preferential treatment of one over the other. It's very tough to do though. There aren't many Pete Rozelle's in the world anymore.
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Agreed!

The networks control everything. Most of these programs are just happy to collect a check and conferences will bend over for that huge contract.

I wish they grow some balls but the conferences already proved they can't trust each other. They will never come together and only follow the networks, SEC and B1G.
 
The most positive thing I’ve taken from all of this?

The whole country is on the anti-SEC cult narrative. Everyone has awoken to the myth that this conference is filled with goliaths. Only ESPN, which has a deal with them, remains biased - and everyone can smell it now.

It’s pretty much every conference ganging up on the SEC, and I for one enjoy it
 
SEC Playoff Preview:

Texas - in; no argument

Georgia- in regardless of SEC chmpshp . result; Heather, Tess, Jesse insist

Tenn. - in; beat 'Bama - automatic berth; tough road losses UGA & ARKANSAS

Ole Miss - in; beat UGA - automatic berth. Tough in-conf. losses to UF & KENTUCKY notwithstanding. Won Egg Bowl

South Carolina - in; played 'Bama tough, quality loss to Ole Miss (27-3)
Clemson W - no brainer

Texas A&M - in; quality losses to ND, SOUTH
CAROLINA (44-20), AUBURN

Missouri - in; only 3 L's; quality losses to 'Bama(34-0), T A&M (41-10)

Alabama - in; beat UGA - automatic berth; flat
at Oklahoma -perfectly reasonable

Oklahoma - borderline at 6-5, possibly 7-5 'Bama manhandling weighing heavily

Vandy - borderline at 6-6, beat 'Bama.
quality loss at Georgia St.



*in a last-minute NCAA sanctioned change of playoff by-laws, at least 8 SEC member teams are expected to make the playoffs, leaving Ohio St., Notre Dame, a 'wildcard' team of Alabama/Georgia's choice, and perhaps undefeated Oregon rounding out the field.
 
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espn already starting up the 3 loss sec team being better than miami BS

Keep in mind these are the teams they're lobbying for

Ole miss 9-3
Lost to kentucky, lsu, and florida ( a common opponent we blew out)

Texas A&m 9-3
Lost to notre dame, auburn, an blown out by south carolina 44-20

Alabama 9-3
Lost to vandy, tennessee, and blown out by oklahoma 24-3

South carolina
Lost to lsu, bama, and blown out by ole miss 24-3
 
Lokest said:
espn already starting up the 3 loss sec team being better than miami BS

Keep in mind these are the teams they're lobbying for

Ole miss 9-3
Lost to kentucky, lsu, and florida ( a common opponent we blew out)

Texas A&m 9-3
Lost to notre dame, auburn, an blown out by south carolina 44-20

Alabama 9-3
Lost to vandy, tennessee, and blown out by oklahoma 24-3

South carolina
Lost to lsu, bama, and blown out by ole miss 24-3
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Bama will get final spot
 
Lokest said:
espn already starting up the 3 loss sec team being better than miami BS

Keep in mind these are the teams they're lobbying for

Ole miss 9-3
Lost to kentucky, lsu, and florida ( a common opponent we blew out)

Texas A&m 9-3
Lost to notre dame, auburn, an blown out by south carolina 44-20

Alabama 9-3
Lost to vandy, tennessee, and blown out by oklahoma 24-3

South carolina
Lost to lsu, bama, and blown out by ole miss 24-3
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id be surprised if we were favored in any of those matchups.
 
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westcoastcanes said:
id be surprised if we were favored in any of those matchups.
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We may not be favored in all of them but we can beat any of those teams. It's just absurd to me that the narrative against miami is that we play close games against average acc teams but we lost to 7-4 syracuse by 4 points an 5 points to GT, who everyone saw georgia needed a miracle to beat.

These sec teams like ole miss are not only afforded close games and losses to average to below average sec teams like kentucky or lsu, but in bamas case they can also be blown out by bad ones like oklahoma. Miami probably drops a game or two with those schedules but they aren't getting blown out by oklahoma or south carolina.

This season and the narrative building around it just shows there's no such thing as a bad loss in the sec.
 
Lokest said:
We may not be favored in all of them but we can beat any of those teams. It's just absurd to me that the narrative against miami is that we play close games against average acc teams but we lost to 7-4 syracuse by 4 points an 5 points to GT, who everyone saw georgia needed a miracle to beat.

These sec teams like ole miss are not only afforded close games and losses to average to below average sec teams like kentucky or lsu, but in bamas case they can also be blown out by bad ones like oklahoma. Miami probably drops a game or two with those schedules but they aren't getting blown out by oklahoma or south carolina.

This season and the narrative building around it just shows there's no such thing as a bad loss in the sec.
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We will just have to disagree. Miami dropped a game or two and with the help of the refs or luck should have dropped three more. We would have been a .500 team with an sec schedule.

This forum complains about narratives a lot. I think a lot of people would benefit from looking at things like our conferences record against the sec and big 10 over the last ten years, and looking at how many players got drafted from each conference over that stretch. The narrative exists because the ACC has been beaten on the field for a decade and its players have been valued lower in lower numbers by the pros, with only one or two exceptions over that stretch. And frankly, we are part of the problem. We beat Florida, that is great. Our conference went like 3-9 against the SEC this year.
 
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E1k said:
It’s common sense to anyone who can think past the surface level lol. When we are good they hype us all game and the same people complaining about it love it.

The commentators have a script to follow, its certain things they have to repeat & push to the viewers and if they don’t the producers are probably in their ear yelling.
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A script to follow, you say? Imagine being on this board and not understanding the concept.

Next you'll be telling me about ex-players shilling for their HC friends. :cool:
 
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westcoastcanes said:
We will just have to disagree. Miami dropped a game or two and with the help of the refs or luck should have dropped three more. We would have been a .500 team with an sec schedule.

This forum complains about narratives a lot. I think a lot of people would benefit from looking at things like our conferences record against the sec and big 10 over the last ten years, and looking at how many players got drafted from each conference over that stretch. The narrative exists because the ACC has been beaten on the field for a decade and its players have been valued lower in lower numbers by the pros, with only one or two exceptions over that stretch. And frankly, we are part of the problem. We beat Florida, that is great. Our conference went like 3-9 against the SEC this year.
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Thats's not accurate because we have common opponents. We blew out florida, georgia struggled with them, and you could say the refs gifted a win to them over gt and kentucky. I don't want to hear this **** about refs when they straight up gifted cal a td and called phantom OPIs on us at the goal line forcing us to score from 25 yards out on 3rd down. I'm not going to hear **** about VTs "catch" either especially when VTs coach admits to committing penalties and counting on the refs not calling them. They also called BS on us that gets glossed over.

I don't give a **** about the past 10 years, I care about this season. Miami was in close games with average teams, yes, but they're getting penalized for actually winning these games. These 3 loss sec teams were also in close games with average teams, but they lost more of them, and in some cases they got blown out by these average or below average teams. Actually look at the schedules here for the teams we're talking about, we probably still have 2 losses if we switched.
 
Rellyrell said:
Yeah, that’s exactly what happens. It’s a complete production, & certain talking points must be adhered to. It’s brand awareness, & brand protection.
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Many of the highest rated college football games of all time are Miami games.

This is why the team is hyped whenever they show a pulse.

The TV networks would absolutely wet themselves if Miami was truly back in the national championship contention season after season. They would pimp out the team as one you either loved or hated. No one gives a **** about mid-level SEC or Big Ten teams. They aren’t national brands.

Miami is still a national brand, but must get out of the ACC and into either the SEC or Big Ten. College football has clearly moved in the direction of two tiers, and Miami is on the outside looking in.
 
Lokest said:
Thats's not accurate because we have common opponents. We blew out florida, georgia struggled with them, and you could say the refs gifted a win to them over gt and kentucky. I don't want to hear this **** about refs when they straight up gifted cal a td and called phantom OPIs on us at the goal line forcing us to score from 25 yards out on 3rd down. I'm not going to hear **** about VTs "catch" either especially when VTs coach admits to committing penalties and counting on the refs not calling them. They also called BS on us that gets glossed over.

I don't give a **** about the past 10 years, I care about this season. Miami was in close games with average teams, yes, but they're getting penalized for actually winning these games. These 3 loss sec teams were also in close games with average teams, but they lost more of them, and in some cases they got blown out by these average or below average teams. Actually look at the schedules here for the teams we're talking about, we probably still have 2 losses if we switched.
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This season the SEC has beat the ACC in 9 of 12 meetings. I don’t need to continue this exchange. We are an inferior conference by every reasonable metric for compairson, except maybe average us news academic ranking, including this year. If you value 10-2 in the ACC over 9-3 there, whatever, but your opinion on it is irrelevant, and the facts are that when given an opportunity to prove otherwise, we tend to lose to the SEC and our body of work is not more impressive than the 3 loss sec teams to anyone outside our fanbase.
 
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dude conference record is irrelevant if we have common opponents with these 3 loss sec teams. Whatever Tennessee does with nc state or what mizzou does with bc has NOTHING to do with us. We don't play those teams. We share 2 common opponents with ole miss and they went 1-1 while we went 2-0 so it's objectively wrong when you say. "when given an opportunity to prove otherwise, we tend to lose to the SEC and our body of work is not more impressive than the 3 loss sec teams to anyone outside our fanbase."

This is straight cuck mentality and I agree there's no reason to continue this conversation if you think losing to vandy and getting blown out by 6-6 Oklahoma is better than losing to GT and syracuse by 4 and 5
 
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