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SAT/ACT scores required for UM undergrad once again

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MissileCane said:
For admission into the fall 2026 class, prospective students will be required to submit their standardized test scores. This follows a 5 year period where UM suspended the requirement.

Good to see the change -- standardized test scores are important. I wonder if this is an Echeverria mandate.

news.miami.edu

Standardized test score policy reinstated for fall 2026 undergraduate admissions cycle

The University of Miami will require standardized test scores beginning in fall 2026, ending the temporary test optional process put in place during the pandemic.
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Doesn't apply to Athletic Department.
 
canemachine said:
My greater point which I didn't convey fully is for something to be standard all things must be equal. Meaning our education system must be equal across the country which we both know is not the case without getting into all that surronds it. I added anxiety because test anxiety is real for some. That's why colleges have moved to creating centers or using rooms for those who have learning disabilities and anxieties. In short I was saying highschools don't do the best of that speaking largely on the public school system. I don't disagree that academic performance is important but placing entry on a score from one test seems asinine as it can disregard achievement elsewhere
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This is a great point, but I feel that not having the test score didn't help my son. He had a 34 ACT and a 35 Superscore, yet he was waitlisted in 2023. IMO this will have not impact on Athletics.
 
Not sure academic standards pertain to athletics these days. Just a few yrs ago the big deal was graduation rates and potential for penalties. Well, NIL has kids shuffling campus to campus on an annual basis and no talk of graduation rates.
 
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canewill said:
This is a great point, but I feel that not having the test score didn't help my son. He had a 34 ACT and a 35 Superscore, yet he was waitlisted in 2023. IMO this will have not impact on Athletics.
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Agreed, athletics is big business at this point. They will find a way to get who they want in. Sucks they waitlisted your son but I'm sure he'll land or landed where he is supposed to be and will do amazing 💪
 
BoxingRobes said:
Do you have a good article or paper on this?

Been a hypothesis of mine for a minute, but haven't done much research.
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I don’t. My company is in the space and it’s a big issue because of accreditation and program completion rates. May be more specifics in certain degrees but yeah low performing students propped up during COVID to push through enter high ed unprepared and burn out or drop. Most of the enrollment questions were answered with last weeks news about the data being collected incorrectly so now this will be the main focus. Butts in seats.
 
The U is back to work said:
I don’t. My company is in the space and it’s a big issue because of accreditation and program completion rates. May be more specifics in certain degrees but yeah low performing students propped up during COVID to push through enter high ed unprepared and burn out or drop. Most of the enrollment questions were answered with last weeks news about the data being collected incorrectly so now this will be the main focus. Butts in seats.
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Interesting.

If anything comes your way - some good articles/papers/research on it, hit me with that @ - I'd appreciate ya.
 
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canemachine said:
Standardized tests are a farce. It doesn't take into account anxiety. It doesn't take into account school districts/teacher quality. If curriculum was standardized and taught at the same pace across the board then it would be more valid. However such is not the case which makes it nothing more than an outdated way of measurement.
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They are not a farce. They are one of several data points to consider, like GPA, extracurricular activities, personal essay, letters of recommendation, etc...but one with a baseline that allows a true comparison across multiple applicants, because as you say, some school districts are garbage and the posted GPA for that school could be meaningless. An institution of higher learning NOT having standards for admission would be a farce.

So tell me....would you rather see a Dr for a critical diagnosis or surgery who passed the USMLE, or one that didn't take the USMLE but wanted to practice medicine anyway? Or what about a lawyer who didn't take the bar exam? If we made that optional to be licensed, would you hire the one who passed it or the one who decided it wasn't necessary?
 
Bender said:
If a recruit doesn't want to do this to come here, you wouldn't want that recruit to come here. He won't work out.
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Nailed it.
Working to meet minimum standards set by the school is certainly a test of a kids character and ability to deal with adversity.
If the kid doesn't want to work to get into school I have no reason to believe he/she is committed to working hard to maximize their athletic ability.
 
canemachine said:
Standardized tests are a farce. It doesn't take into account anxiety. It doesn't take into account school districts/teacher quality. If curriculum was standardized and taught at the same pace across the board then it would be more valid. However such is not the case which makes it nothing more than an outdated way of measurement.
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Equality in Outcome is a farce.

It shouldn't take into account any of those things. Those things are accounted for (or not accounted for depending on if the student would want to disclose certain things) elsewhere in a student application to a college or university.
 
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TNmiami said:
Enlighten me with some nuance

And if a kid can't make the grades, how will they learn a playbook. Maybe that was guidrys downfall /s
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Making grades and taking a standardized test are two completely different things.
 
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