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MizCane said:
I can understand you wanting to be patient which I have been and will be with Richt but its not working. The O line is sub par and his QB's have been atrocious but the bottom line is our O is as basic as it can get. Maybe that's because of his QB limitation but I also think the coaches could make the O tougher to gameplan against by more mis-direction etc.
Also, ST's have regressed every year under Hartley. They have gone from terrible to atrocious. I have zero doubts that needs to be completely overhauled. The O needs innovation. He needs to bring in someone in from the outside with new concepts.
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Ok let's address what coach richt was facing when he got here, he had a good accurate qb, with solid receivers in stacy coley and berrios, a top notch tightend in njoku who excelled under coach hartley and the offensive system coach richt brought in, add herdon to that mix with walton and that offense was above avg. So he comes in and goes 9 & 4, wins the bowl game. Also more importantly this same offense with kaaya and the one player that made the offense become more feared, Ahmon richards, freshman all everything. So the next year, year 2, brad kaaya jumps to the nfl, so now instead of having a qb situation settled, he now has to turn to a qb he never thought was good enuff to play here in rosier, and worst than that evans "i shot the" sherieff. Than before the season starts or early on Ahmon is out(hamstring) rosier is the starter begrudgingly, homer takes over, somehow that team wins 10 straight, which the majority of the people were surprised and the talk was, "coach richt is ahead of schedule" we get close to the end of the year, rosier's hurt, Ahmon still hurt than out, herdon out, cager coming off of injury, no fullback, should've won the bowl game but the refs made sure that didnt happen, everybody did enuff to win that game, even rosier, the refs did their job, you could argue worst that the ref's call in the fiesta bowl but it cant be worst cause that call took #6 away immediately, but last year's ref'd bowl game was one of the worst i've seen against us. Anyway, year 2 exceeded most expectations by the so called experts, so expectations this year was thru the roof for some reason.

I knew back in spring, we lost key o-linemen, so when they announced the starting 5 and their positions, i knew we were in trouble offensively. Than Ahmon goes down 1st game, no berrios, True freshmen tightends trying to block seasoned d-linemen, o-linemen out of place, and just jt4 right now as the only proven and feared receiving threat on deep balls, but right now what's hurting jt4, he has to become a better route runner on not just deep balls, but on the intermediates routes, so we got him, cager is not a 1st or 2nd tier wideout, as the 3rd wideout he'd be much better, so all this in year 3, but the expectations somehow by to many was that this team this year was somehow suppose to be better, lol.

Even with this offense being criticized, in 2 out of 3 years it has produced 2 all everything freshmen, Ahmon 2016, brevin on track to get that in 2018, with a better qb, jt4 would've been on the list in 2017 or close to it.
So its not the offense that's the problem, the system has already proven itself when matched with talent. So the patience people say they running out of, i dont get that, its only year 3, you cant speed up Championship level development with what was left here.

Had that 2016 class been filled with o-linemen, we wouldnt be this methodical on offense, but no quality o-linemen were beating down the door to come here back than. Year 2 was better, got donaldson in, herbert we'll see, gaynor looks like he should be decent, dykstra and hillery still in the nest. Got some promising ones last recruiting class in campbell, reed, scaife, young but better athlete's, so like gaynor who barring health will be starting in his 3rd year here, that's normaly the ideal situation for o-linemen, yr 3, same with herbert, maybe.

Point being the patience is not with coach richt, but with the players to develop. People acting as if we have a college football ready pkayoff team, and that was no way near the case, next year, and with a solid recruiting class this year, particularly with o-linemen, and the 3rd year of perry being here as well as cade and jarren pushing if they choose to stay which jarren definitely should because he's in the pefect position out of all the qb's being that he can sit back and learn for a year and possibly next year if perry takes that next step, so coach richt has the qb situation almost on point with the spacing between perry and williams. People looking across the country complaining cause you got young qb's starting, but what kind of o-line and receivers do they have.

So im good with where we're at, we are barely losing games, teams are in a dog fight to win against us, which tells me these coaches are doing a good job and probably their best job coaching wise to be as competitive as we are, if were getting blown out consistently, than i wouldnt be talking like this, believe me, but if coach richt stays on track, keep this coaching staff in tact, manage all the players emotions, this team goes into the off season with a renewed focused cause these loses should do that for them, come next year, this team is going to start being a consisten problem for college football, we in the very middle of the journey back to the top.
 
Calvin said:
Ok let's address what coach richt was facing when he got here, he had a good accurate qb, with solid receivers in stacy coley and berrios, a top notch tightend in njoku who excelled under coach hartley and the offensive system coach richt brought in, add herdon to that mix with walton and that offense was above avg. So he comes in and goes 9 & 4, wins the bowl game. Also more importantly this same offense with kaaya and the one player that made the offense become more feared, Ahmon richards, freshman all everything. So the next year, year 2, brad kaaya jumps to the nfl, so now instead of having a qb situation settled, he now has to turn to a qb he never thought was good enuff to play here in rosier, and worst than that evans "i shot the" sherieff. Than before the season starts or early on Ahmon is out(hamstring) rosier is the starter begrudgingly, homer takes over, somehow that team wins 10 straight, which the majority of the people were surprised and the talk was, "coach richt is ahead of schedule" we get close to the end of the year, rosier's hurt, Ahmon still hurt than out, herdon out, cager coming off of injury, no fullback, should've won the bowl game but the refs made sure that didnt happen, everybody did enuff to win that game, even rosier, the refs did their job, you could argue worst that the ref's call in the fiesta bowl but it cant be worst cause that call took #6 away immediately, but last year's ref'd bowl game was one of the worst i've seen against us. Anyway, year 2 exceeded most expectations by the so called experts, so expectations this year was thru the roof for some reason.

I knew back in spring, we lost key o-linemen, so when they announced the starting 5 and their positions, i knew we were in trouble offensively. Than Ahmon goes down 1st game, no berrios, True freshmen tightends trying to block seasoned d-linemen, o-linemen out of place, and just jt4 right now as the only proven and feared receiving threat on deep balls, but right now what's hurting jt4, he has to become a better route runner on not just deep balls, but on the intermediates routes, so we got him, cager is not a 1st or 2nd tier wideout, as the 3rd wideout he'd be much better, so all this in year 3, but the expectations somehow by to many was that this team this year was somehow suppose to be better, lol.

Even with this offense being criticized, in 2 out of 3 years it has produced 2 all everything freshmen, Ahmon 2016, brevin on track to get that in 2018, with a better qb, jt4 would've been on the list in 2017 or close to it.
So its not the offense that's the problem, the system has already proven itself when matched with talent. So the patience people say they running out of, i dont get that, its only year 3, you cant speed up Championship level development with what was left here.

Had that 2016 class been filled with o-linemen, we wouldnt be this methodical on offense, but no quality o-linemen were beating down the door to come here back than. Year 2 was better, got donaldson in, herbert we'll see, gaynor looks like he should be decent, dykstra and hillery still in the nest. Got some promising ones last recruiting class in campbell, reed, scaife, young but better athlete's, so like gaynor who barring health will be starting in his 3rd year here, that's normaly the ideal situation for o-linemen, yr 3, same with herbert, maybe.

Point being the patience is not with coach richt, but with the players to develop. People acting as if we have a college football ready pkayoff team, and that was no way near the case, next year, and with a solid recruiting class this year, particularly with o-linemen, and the 3rd year of perry being here as well as cade and jarren pushing if they choose to stay which jarren definitely should because he's in the pefect position out of all the qb's being that he can sit back and learn for a year and possibly next year if perry takes that next step, so coach richt has the qb situation almost on point with the spacing between perry and williams. People looking across the country complaining cause you got young qb's starting, but what kind of o-line and receivers do they have.

So im good with where we're at, we are barely losing games, teams are in a dog fight to win against us, which tells me these coaches are doing a good job and probably their best job coaching wise to be as competitive as we are, if were getting blown out consistently, than i wouldnt be talking like this, believe me, but if coach richt stays on track, keep this coaching staff in tact, manage all the players emotions, this team goes into the off season with a renewed focused cause these loses should do that for them, come next year, this team is going to start being a consisten problem for college football, we in the very middle of the journey back to the top.
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Nice Summary. I still like Richt and think he can get it done here but he needs more innovation on the scheme and Hartley cannot coach ST's after this year. Make those changes and I think we get back on track.
 
Calvin said:
Ok let's address what coach richt was facing when he got here, he had a good accurate qb, with solid receivers in stacy coley and berrios, a top notch tightend in njoku who excelled under coach hartley and the offensive system coach richt brought in, add herdon to that mix with walton and that offense was above avg. So he comes in and goes 9 & 4, wins the bowl game. Also more importantly this same offense with kaaya and the one player that made the offense become more feared, Ahmon richards, freshman all everything. So the next year, year 2, brad kaaya jumps to the nfl, so now instead of having a qb situation settled, he now has to turn to a qb he never thought was good enuff to play here in rosier, and worst than that evans "i shot the" sherieff. Than before the season starts or early on Ahmon is out(hamstring) rosier is the starter begrudgingly, homer takes over, somehow that team wins 10 straight, which the majority of the people were surprised and the talk was, "coach richt is ahead of schedule" we get close to the end of the year, rosier's hurt, Ahmon still hurt than out, herdon out, cager coming off of injury, no fullback, should've won the bowl game but the refs made sure that didnt happen, everybody did enuff to win that game, even rosier, the refs did their job, you could argue worst that the ref's call in the fiesta bowl but it cant be worst cause that call took #6 away immediately, but last year's ref'd bowl game was one of the worst i've seen against us. Anyway, year 2 exceeded most expectations by the so called experts, so expectations this year was thru the roof for some reason.

I knew back in spring, we lost key o-linemen, so when they announced the starting 5 and their positions, i knew we were in trouble offensively. Than Ahmon goes down 1st game, no berrios, True freshmen tightends trying to block seasoned d-linemen, o-linemen out of place, and just jt4 right now as the only proven and feared receiving threat on deep balls, but right now what's hurting jt4, he has to become a better route runner on not just deep balls, but on the intermediates routes, so we got him, cager is not a 1st or 2nd tier wideout, as the 3rd wideout he'd be much better, so all this in year 3, but the expectations somehow by to many was that this team this year was somehow suppose to be better, lol.

Even with this offense being criticized, in 2 out of 3 years it has produced 2 all everything freshmen, Ahmon 2016, brevin on track to get that in 2018, with a better qb, jt4 would've been on the list in 2017 or close to it.
So its not the offense that's the problem, the system has already proven itself when matched with talent. So the patience people say they running out of, i dont get that, its only year 3, you cant speed up Championship level development with what was left here.

Had that 2016 class been filled with o-linemen, we wouldnt be this methodical on offense, but no quality o-linemen were beating down the door to come here back than. Year 2 was better, got donaldson in, herbert we'll see, gaynor looks like he should be decent, dykstra and hillery still in the nest. Got some promising ones last recruiting class in campbell, reed, scaife, young but better athlete's, so like gaynor who barring health will be starting in his 3rd year here, that's normaly the ideal situation for o-linemen, yr 3, same with herbert, maybe.

Point being the patience is not with coach richt, but with the players to develop. People acting as if we have a college football ready pkayoff team, and that was no way near the case, next year, and with a solid recruiting class this year, particularly with o-linemen, and the 3rd year of perry being here as well as cade and jarren pushing if they choose to stay which jarren definitely should because he's in the pefect position out of all the qb's being that he can sit back and learn for a year and possibly next year if perry takes that next step, so coach richt has the qb situation almost on point with the spacing between perry and williams. People looking across the country complaining cause you got young qb's starting, but what kind of o-line and receivers do they have.

So im good with where we're at, we are barely losing games, teams are in a dog fight to win against us, which tells me these coaches are doing a good job and probably their best job coaching wise to be as competitive as we are, if were getting blown out consistently, than i wouldnt be talking like this, believe me, but if coach richt stays on track, keep this coaching staff in tact, manage all the players emotions, this team goes into the off season with a renewed focused cause these loses should do that for them, come next year, this team is going to start being a consisten problem for college football, we in the very middle of the journey back to the top.
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Wrong wrong wrong

You must be a millennial to be making that many excuses for this staff. I bet you voted for Bernie Sanders
 
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“I’m tempted to try to win the game. How about that?” Richt said. “I guess people don’t see that as a premium, but I do.”

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Cane6 said:
Wrong wrong wrong

You must be a millennial to be making that many excuses for this staff. I bet you voted for Bernie Sanders
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Ok, time will tell, most of you on here are judging coach richt by the "he was at UGA for 15yrs and didnt win a national championship" mentality as if he was a failure their, but in fact he was and is still one of the winniest coaches in college football, most of yall act like this man is use to these 4 game losing streaks, but that's the condition this program was left in, so comeback to reality. Alot of the same people was criticizing butch davis back than, they'll get on here and type up and about what coach davis had to overcome now, but back than, almost none of them cared, cause the thing you hear them say "butch davis wasnt a good gameday coach" lol, with all those schalorship reductions, how much gameday coaching can you do, what he did like coach richt should do is stick to his style and eventually that' what brought in #5 and #6 (before the flag).

If you not a good game day coach how you end up 11 & 1, beat Fsu but dont get to play for the national championship but Fsu does, which is what ushered in the bcs era cause butch/we got robbed. So im not worried about the warped thinking on here, we in good hands as long as coach richt stays himself!
 
MizCane said:
Nice Summary. I still like Richt and think he can get it done here but he needs more innovation on the scheme and Hartley cannot coach ST's after this year. Make those changes and I think we get back on track.
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Understood, but coach hartley is not the problem, young talent is the issue, as the talent matures, so will special teams.
 
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The Svengali said:
Why is Kirby Smart winning and not experiencing similar issues with UGA?
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And also, let's see how smart he looks once he's chaulk full of his own recruits, its nice and easy to look good when you get left with roquan smith, sony, chubb and the boys.
 
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