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Rhett Lashlee calls out national perception of the ACC - re: Playoff Bids

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“I will say this. I do think, on behalf of the ACC, I think it is interesting. Yeah, there’s normal brand biases for teams – I’m not going to get into that. But there’s conference biases,” said Lashlee. “I think it’s interesting that, you know, you look at the ACC. We have a winning record against the Big Ten this year. We have a winning record against the Big 12 this year. We don’t have a winning record against the SEC but we have four games left and, if we win enough of those, we would have a winning record so that’s still up in the air. It’s been competitive, you know.”

“To look at our league and say, ‘Well, we may be a one-big league’ but you look at another league that we have a winning record against and say, ‘Oh, they’re going to get four in!’. Like, it doesn’t make sense to me,” Lashlee said. “Make it make sense.”

Lashlee’s point was supportive of the ACC but he also felt the same way about those in the Big 12.

“Same thing – Big 12? If I’m them, I’m upset too. I’m like, ‘Hold on, we’ve got an undefeated?'” said Lashlee. “Like, make it make sense.”

Again, preconceived notions and how that impacts the in-season perception of results is what Lashlee took issue with. He can’t get why what one league does isn’t seen as the same when another league does it. Include the in-depth look across the country and the current equation for the playoff isn’t figuring up for him.

“You know, when other leagues beat each other up internally, they’re considered a deep, solid league. When we beat up internally, we’re considered a weak league,” said Lashlee. “You know, when Kentucky goes and beats Ole Miss, when Arkansas goes and beats Tennessee, when South Carolina goes and beats A&M, when Vandy beats Alabama? That’s considered a deep league. When Georgia Tech beats Miami, right, when Louisville goes on the road and beats Clemson, when UVA goes on the road and beats Pitt – we’re not considered a deep league? I think we’re a pretty deep league.”

“When the data and the metrics say it should, I think that’s the biggest thing. I think our league has earned the right to be in the conversation. It’s insulting to say, ‘Oh, it’s a one-bid league probably, maybe two?’ yet we’ve got another league that the metrics don’t add up any better, as a matter of fact, worse, and we’re acting like they’ve just got four and it’s done,” said Lashlee. “Make it make sense.”
 
“There’s a lot of teams that should argue they should belong in so I’m not discrediting anyone. But I think we’re way too early in the process to start acting like, ‘Well, this league gets this and this league gets this’ when some of these teams haven’t even beat a ranked team or a team that’s going to a bowl game and yet they’re just, like, gifted in. It’s a challenge.”

“Just as a whole with the league? I don’t know what can be done. I think some of that stuff is predetermined a little bit and that’s the bias we’re talking about,” Lashlee continued. “That’s no disrespect to the other leagues. That’s the problem. It’s hard to stomp and argue on behalf of your league without making it sound like you’re being negative. I think the other leagues are great. I think we’ve got four big-time leagues in college football. There just needs to be, you know, quality representation from all four.”
 
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I hate the SEC as much as anyone. But they’ve probably earned it at this point. I wouldn’t want to know our record year after year if we player an SEC schedule. And that’s our own fault. Struggling with the Georgia tech’s and UNC of the world
 
Need to scrap the human factor and human bias in the playoff selection and generate a BCS type model that power ranks teams and calculates a rating. The rating includes wins and losses but doesn’t have any measure on prior year, recruiting, pre-season, etc. It shouldn’t even be able to formulate data until week 3 or 4.

To perfect that model, you will need buy in from all conferences to agree to some sort of overlap scheduling like an ACC/SEC challenge in basketball type model. Cross over a couple games a year and we can really apply a solid formula to this and accurately rank teams and weigh results without bias.

The way it is now and getting worse in the future with the SEC/B1G threatening to do their own thing without 8-9 guaranteed slots is going to ruin a good product.

1-4 can be the conference champs and then 5-12 should be the next 8 highest rated teams at-large.
 
CBurrr93 said:
I hate the SEC as much as anyone. But they’ve probably earned it at this point. I wouldn’t want to know our record year after year if we player an SEC schedule. And that’s our own fault. Struggling with the Georgia tech’s and UNC of the world
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But are they any different than Kentucky or Vandy, even Auburn. The SEC is an inch deep and a mile wide.
And Lashlee strikes me as the type of guy that's going to have a long career in coaching. If our little brothers up north had any common sense they'd both go after him. Instead they'll fudge around and SMU will give him a raise. If SMU starts or continues to win those oil boosters will start "Pony-ing" up cash.
 
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JayCane20 said:
Need to scrap the human factor and human bias in the playoff selection and generate a BCS type model that power ranks teams and calculates a rating. The rating includes wins and losses but doesn’t have any measure on prior year, recruiting, pre-season, etc. It shouldn’t even be able to formulate data until week 3 or 4.

To perfect that model, you will need buy in from all conferences to agree to some sort of overlap scheduling like an ACC/SEC challenge in basketball type model. Cross over a couple games a year and we can really apply a solid formula to this and accurately rank teams and weigh results without bias.

The way it is now and getting worse in the future with the SEC/B1G threatening to do their own thing without 8-9 guaranteed slots is going to ruin a good product.

1-4 can be the conference champs and then 5-12 should be the next 8 highest rated teams at-large.
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B1G & SEC playing politics and $$$. I think SEC is strong 1-4, UGA, Ole Miss, Texas, Bama. Tamu has to beat Texas to be in imo and Tennessee needs to beat UGA to be in imo. The B1G is soft IMO. Maybe deserves 3 spots with OREGON, OSU, PSU or Indiana
 
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QuattroCane said:
But are they any different than Kentucky or Vandy, even Auburn. The SEC is an inch deep and a mile wide.
And Lashlee strikes me as the type of guy that's going to have a long career in coaching. If our little brothers up north had any common sense they'd both go after him. Instead they'll fudge around and SMU will give him a raise. If SMU starts or continues to win those oil boosters will start "Pony-ing" up cash.
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Probably not much different, no. But I think the teams win games as well that we would probably lose over the years. It’s all subjective. Just my opinion. If we were running through ACC teams and drop one occasionally it would look much better
 
Jassid82 said:
Hes sees the BS coming from a mile away. That only the ACC champ will get in the CFP and the runner-up will be left out. Meanwhile some 3-loss SEC team will work their way into the 12th seed.
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They've been setting that up for weeks. When all the talk about teams with "2 good losses" or even 3 losses started, you knew it was over.


edit: just watched an ESPN segment from earlier today. "all 3 loss teams are not created equal" according to Heather Dinich from ESPN. they are now talking about possibly 5 SEC teams in because UGA's three losses come due to being one of the toughest schedules in the country. She flat out said that if Ol Miss loses again, they are done. But not UGA

She said she thinks Miami could be ranked 11 tonight, which would still make them one of the 4 highest conference champions. The assumption is Miami will win the ACC
 
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