Revenue Sharing (school pays) vs Canes Connection -taxes

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@DMoney or anybody else that knows maybe you can help me with clarity about this but with revenue sharing coming to college football, that's an much more attractive option to donate funds to the school as a tax deduction rather than to the Collective since it's not..for those in higher tax brackets, it's almost like doubling what you can give.

What happens to Canes Connection when revenue sharing starts? If the school can pay the players, and we can donate to the school and deduct it from our taxes, why would we give to Canes Connection?
 
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I could be totally wrong but the revenue sharing is different from NIL. So they’ll get that (revenue sharing) and then whatever deal they can work for their NIL
 
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Revenue sharing comes directly from the school. NIL comes "indirectly" from the school...i.e outside sources.
 
Wanted to bump this thread and see if we can get any information from the experts @TheOriginalCane @DMoney ...

The Texas one fund is a non-profit.

Many other collectives are non-profit.

Why isn't Canes Connection?

I know their non-profit status may get challenged in court but why hasn't Canes Connection taken advantage of the non-profit status over the last few years while the IRS has been unclear about it?


Asking these questions now because December is a huge fundraising opportunity for non-profits as many people are looking for ways to reduce tax liability.
 
Wanted to bump this thread and see if we can get any information from the experts @TheOriginalCane @DMoney ...

The Texas one fund is a non-profit.

Many other collectives are non-profit.

Why isn't Canes Connection?

I know their non-profit status may get challenged in court but why hasn't Canes Connection taken advantage of the non-profit status over the last few years while the IRS has been unclear about it?


Asking these questions now because December is a huge fundraising opportunity for non-profits as many people are looking for ways to reduce tax liability.
I always assumed it was because of the legal issues.
 
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I always assumed it was because of the legal issues.
Thanks for clarifying.

It's a huge disadvantage for Canes Connections.

There are many (maybe most) NIL collectives out there who are non-profits and giving tax receipts.

Not only that, but we can donate directly to the school (Hurricane Club) and get tax deductions as well.

Hopefully the powers that be are figuring this out. Tough to ask a millionaire or billionaire to donate to Canes Connections when they could donate to Hurricane Club and have their money go 40%+, further. I know the money doesn't go to the same place not for donors, they feel just the same supporting their school.
 
Wanted to bump this thread and see if we can get any information from the experts @TheOriginalCane @DMoney ...

The Texas one fund is a non-profit.

Many other collectives are non-profit.

Why isn't Canes Connection?

I know their non-profit status may get challenged in court but why hasn't Canes Connection taken advantage of the non-profit status over the last few years while the IRS has been unclear about it?


Asking these questions now because December is a huge fundraising opportunity for non-profits as many people are looking for ways to reduce tax liability.


There are a few issues involved here.

First, applying for non-profit status is technically a request, it is not an automatic permanent status. The IRS has signaled its intent to review NIL collectives, as the IRS does NOT think that these are charitable organizations. While the IRS may not chase down PAST "charitable contributions" to disallow them back to the date of entity formation, any contributions past the disallowance date would no longer be charitable contributions.

Second, UM (and other schools) have decided not to push the issue, and to just create an organization that will survive any such change in 501(c) status. While I do not think it may be very costly to make the entity transition, it may be that UM doesn't want to "confuse" donors. In other words, if your donations are PREDICATED on them being charitable contributions, maybe you would stop giving if the IRS pulls the 501(c) status. But if everyone knows the (probable) deal from Day 1, that your contributions are NOT deductible, then nobody has a reason to STOP giving in the future, based on IRS guidance.

Third, AND I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE'S PERSONAL POLITICS, the TCJA of 2017 (effective 2018) has not been helpful for charitable giving. Without going into mind-numbing detail, most tax-filers below a certain AGI level will see NO BENEFIT from charitable giving, since the standard deduction has been raised so high. This is not to say that VERY wealthy individuals cannot benefit on tax returns from charitable giving, but many people in that category IF THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO COLLECTIVES are not as motivated by tax savings as much.

From 2018 forward, charitable giving has declined in most years. We can "blame COVID" for such stats in 2020 and 2021, but there was also a big decline in 2018 (the first year the TCJA was effective) and a small increase in 2019 (small when compared to the rate of inflation) that was due to the strong economy in 2019. In the most recent year, the percentage increase in donations was outstripped by the inflation rate. The point is that the TCJA has certainly impacted charitable giving at "lower income" levels (below $500K), though the TCJA has had almost no impact on the charitable giving of the wealthy (above $1M in income).

As that impacts collectives? It means, Juan and Jose Mas will continue to contribute, regardless of tax-exempt status and the ability to deduct on their income tax return. And for those of us who would like to deduct such contributions, most of us are likely to NOT benefit from the tax deduction anyhow.

That's just tax math, having nothing to do with anyone's feelings on the issues.
 
There are a few issues involved here.

First, applying for non-profit status is technically a request, it is not an automatic permanent status. The IRS has signaled its intent to review NIL collectives, as the IRS does NOT think that these are charitable organizations. While the IRS may not chase down PAST "charitable contributions" to disallow them back to the date of entity formation, any contributions past the disallowance date would no longer be charitable contributions.

Second, UM (and other schools) have decided not to push the issue, and to just create an organization that will survive any such change in 501(c) status. While I do not think it may be very costly to make the entity transition, it may be that UM doesn't want to "confuse" donors. In other words, if your donations are PREDICATED on them being charitable contributions, maybe you would stop giving if the IRS pulls the 501(c) status. But if everyone knows the (probable) deal from Day 1, that your contributions are NOT deductible, then nobody has a reason to STOP giving in the future, based on IRS guidance.

Third, AND I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE'S PERSONAL POLITICS, the TCJA of 2017 (effective 2018) has not been helpful for charitable giving. Without going into mind-numbing detail, most tax-filers below a certain AGI level will see NO BENEFIT from charitable giving, since the standard deduction has been raised so high. This is not to say that VERY wealthy individuals cannot benefit on tax returns from charitable giving, but many people in that category IF THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO COLLECTIVES are not as motivated by tax savings as much.

From 2018 forward, charitable giving has declined in most years. We can "blame COVID" for such stats in 2020 and 2021, but there was also a big decline in 2018 (the first year the TCJA was effective) and a small increase in 2019 (small when compared to the rate of inflation) that was due to the strong economy in 2019. In the most recent year, the percentage increase in donations was outstripped by the inflation rate. The point is that the TCJA has certainly impacted charitable giving at "lower income" levels (below $500K), though the TCJA has had almost no impact on the charitable giving of the wealthy (above $1M in income).

As that impacts collectives? It means, Juan and Jose Mas will continue to contribute, regardless of tax-exempt status and the ability to deduct on their income tax return. And for those of us who would like to deduct such contributions, most of us are likely to NOT benefit from the tax deduction anyhow.

That's just tax math, having nothing to do with anyone's feelings on the issues.
Great answer..thanks!
 
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$20M shared by 500 Athletes is $40K.
That's not how its going to work.

Football will get roughly $15M of the $20.5M.

If that was divided evenly (which its NOT going to be) ...

$15M divided by 105 = $143k per avg
$15M divided by 85 = $176k per avg

The $20.5M is also NOT going to be strictly "salary" to student athletes .... its going to be spent on additional coaches, services, etc.
 
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I don't pay THE MAN.

I send in a photocopy of my ball sack with my tax return each year.

Take that Mr. IRS.

My tax law firm (Bendini, Lambert, and Locke) feels its a good strategy (offices in Memphis and Hialeah meng).
 
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There are a few issues involved here.

First, applying for non-profit status is technically a request, it is not an automatic permanent status. The IRS has signaled its intent to review NIL collectives, as the IRS does NOT think that these are charitable organizations. While the IRS may not chase down PAST "charitable contributions" to disallow them back to the date of entity formation, any contributions past the disallowance date would no longer be charitable contributions.

Second, UM (and other schools) have decided not to push the issue, and to just create an organization that will survive any such change in 501(c) status. While I do not think it may be very costly to make the entity transition, it may be that UM doesn't want to "confuse" donors. In other words, if your donations are PREDICATED on them being charitable contributions, maybe you would stop giving if the IRS pulls the 501(c) status. But if everyone knows the (probable) deal from Day 1, that your contributions are NOT deductible, then nobody has a reason to STOP giving in the future, based on IRS guidance.

Third, AND I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYONE'S PERSONAL POLITICS, the TCJA of 2017 (effective 2018) has not been helpful for charitable giving. Without going into mind-numbing detail, most tax-filers below a certain AGI level will see NO BENEFIT from charitable giving, since the standard deduction has been raised so high. This is not to say that VERY wealthy individuals cannot benefit on tax returns from charitable giving, but many people in that category IF THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO COLLECTIVES are not as motivated by tax savings as much.

From 2018 forward, charitable giving has declined in most years. We can "blame COVID" for such stats in 2020 and 2021, but there was also a big decline in 2018 (the first year the TCJA was effective) and a small increase in 2019 (small when compared to the rate of inflation) that was due to the strong economy in 2019. In the most recent year, the percentage increase in donations was outstripped by the inflation rate. The point is that the TCJA has certainly impacted charitable giving at "lower income" levels (below $500K), though the TCJA has had almost no impact on the charitable giving of the wealthy (above $1M in income).

As that impacts collectives? It means, Juan and Jose Mas will continue to contribute, regardless of tax-exempt status and the ability to deduct on their income tax return. And for those of us who would like to deduct such contributions, most of us are likely to NOT benefit from the tax deduction anyhow.

That's just tax math, having nothing to do with anyone's feelings on the issues.
Can I deduct mileage travelling to/from HRS as a medical care/mental health expense?

Season tix?

Strippers (as medical attendants)?

Am I pushing the limit?
 
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Someone is definitely wanting to drop some cash on the program. Wonder who's matching? Mas brothers?
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