Renovated Sun Life stadium fly through video

[DeadPoets]

God damnnn I miss the OB - this **** sucks

 

[Awsi Dooger]

In other words existing seats won't be any closer....you must be a lobbyist. The entire thing is shady, the ballot question doesn't even mention the total amount. On the ballot it asks to use 7.5 million per year for 30 years from tourist tax to renovate stadium. That's completely misleading. I just hope it dies in the senate and never makes it to vote. Too many suckers in this town, and it will end up passing if they get a chance to vote on it.

It's indeed sucker central. Unfortunately, the town is full of suckers.

I fully expect it to pass. It would have no chance in a general election. In a low turnout referendum, the Dolphins will own the airwaves and the propaganda.

There is indeed plenty of false impression that the lower bowl will be gutted and the seats moved significantly closer. That idea was floated on Dolphin message boards many times within the past few years, and posters still cling to it. That's going to apply to the voting populous as well. The Dolphins are expert at hinting at improvements that will never happen, while cloaking the project in fear, if the vote is No.

Ross came out and said last week that his children will have no choice but to sell the franchise if he dies, while implying the new owner might move the team out of town. It's one disgraceful comment after another, like a few days ago when he said Tony Sparano "damaged the whole organization." Classy as ever. Yet we're supposed to reward the guy. Unbelievable.

Ross is in his early 70s and knows he has a decade remaining at full faculties and relevance. Beyond that it's a crapshoot. Not coincidentally, this slob patchwork plan will be enough to appease the NFL brass for a decade, with a Super Bowl or two. At that point it's a terrible stadium with a toupee. Ross will either be dead, or won't care. Thanks suckers.

The stadium is a bland graying ill-conceived neutral site disgrace. I posted on the night of the spring game that they played a video of the proposed patchwork on the big screen during the second quarter. Wow, how pristine. It might have fooler potential if I weren't sitting in the actual building, which bore zero relationship to what was onscreen, other than dimensions. The guy behind me and I had been laughing just 15 minutes earlier about the idiocy of the roof, a project that was guaranteed not to be ideal or effective, but merely the toupee that happened to clumsily fit the sterile pathetic joke of a stadium in an irrelevant location.

 

[dycane]

I'm done complaining. I'll take it.

 

[bomb]

Doesn't even look like the seats have been moved closer. It'll be nicer, but this isn't going to help the crowd noise/home field advantage problem much.

Start at about :18 in the video. The retractable seats for football are closer than anything currently in the stadium. Also, by removing the seats from the UD corners, you instantly make the average seat closer to the field (mathematically anyway)

In other words existing seats won't be any closer....you must be a lobbyist. The entire thing is shady, the ballot question doesn't even mention the total amount. On the ballot it asks to use 7.5 million per year for 30 years from tourist tax to renovate stadium. That's completely misleading. I just hope it dies in the senate and never makes it to vote. Too many suckers in this town, and it will end up passing if they get a chance to vote on it.

Of course they won't be any closer. No existing seat will be moved closer to the field. I don't know what reasoning would make anyone thing they were "moving" the seats closer. By adding some seats closer (looks like about 5 rows), and removing the seats that are farthest from the field, the average seat is now closer to the field. That's easy enough to grasp. I understand that a lot of people (and I mean a lot) don't get that.

Just to be clear, I don't give a crap what they do to that stadium. I have no stake in this at all, since I'm not likely to ever set foot in that stadium. I'm just saying that that is exactly how this "moving the seats closer to the field" is actually accomplished. No seat in the UD will be one inch closer to the field.

I've said this since the beginning. Its been really frustrating to see people buy into this, but I got bored with repeating myself. So let me repeat myself

All it seems to me they are going to do is lower the field, add a few rows more of seats so there will be some seats closer to the field, but with a lower field, that means that every single existing seat in the stadium will actually be a few feet farther away from the action. Unless they are going to move the upper decks in, a task that I assume would cost so much you'd probably rather be smarter to just build a new stadium... then I don't see how this is going to be be much better. The proverbial lipstick on a pig. I am waiting for some proof or even suggestion that any of the existing seats, especially the upper deck, will be closer. I am not holding my breath.

 

[rok]

Doesn't even look like the seats have been moved closer. It'll be nicer, but this isn't going to help the crowd noise/home field advantage problem much.

Start at about :18 in the video. The retractable seats for football are closer than anything currently in the stadium. Also, by removing the seats from the UD corners, you instantly make the average seat closer to the field (mathematically anyway)

In other words existing seats won't be any closer....you must be a lobbyist. The entire thing is shady, the ballot question doesn't even mention the total amount. On the ballot it asks to use 7.5 million per year for 30 years from tourist tax to renovate stadium. That's completely misleading. I just hope it dies in the senate and never makes it to vote. Too many suckers in this town, and it will end up passing if they get a chance to vote on it.

Of course they won't be any closer. No existing seat will be moved closer to the field. I don't know what reasoning would make anyone thing they were "moving" the seats closer. By adding some seats closer (looks like about 5 rows), and removing the seats that are farthest from the field, the average seat is now closer to the field. That's easy enough to grasp. I understand that a lot of people (and I mean a lot) don't get that.

Just to be clear, I don't give a crap what they do to that stadium. I have no stake in this at all, since I'm not likely to ever set foot in that stadium. I'm just saying that that is exactly how this "moving the seats closer to the field" is actually accomplished. No seat in the UD will be one inch closer to the field.

I've said this since the beginning. Its been really frustrating to see people buy into this, but I got bored with repeating myself. So let me repeat myself

All it seems to me they are going to do is lower the field, add a few rows more of seats so there will be some seats closer to the field, but with a lower field, that means that every single existing seat in the stadium will actually be a few feet farther away from the action. Unless they are going to move the upper decks in, a task that I assume would cost so much you'd probably rather be smarter to just build a new stadium... then I don't see how this is going to be be much better. The proverbial lipstick on a pig. I am waiting for some proof or even suggestion that any of the existing seats, especially the upper deck, will be closer. I am not holding my breath.

I think the main thing is the roof. You convince people that they won't melt the way we did against NCST and Bethune, and they will come.

 

[MedleyCane]

I love how the Fins' propaganda team is selling the renovation on being able to attract Super Bowls and world class
soccer matches, but how they don't mention that they will probably also be hosting non-bowl college
games during the season.
I expect to see heavy doses of uFag, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan,etc and they won't be playing against us.

 

[BODESLAM]

God damnnn I miss the OB - this **** sucks

THIS X 100000000000000000000000000......I ******' HATE FLUFFY / POWDER PUFF STADIUMS......OB WEZ SPIRIT WILL NEVER DIE....WE NEED OUR OWN ******' HOUSE ...... P-E-R-I-O-D!!!!!!

 

[hollyhood27]

What is the time frame for completion?

 

[561Cane]

Alright smart guy, what do you want the Miami Dolphins to do? Let me guess, you want a brand new stadium that will cost $1.5B...

In other words existing seats won't be any closer....you must be a lobbyist. The entire thing is shady, the ballot question doesn't even mention the total amount. On the ballot it asks to use 7.5 million per year for 30 years from tourist tax to renovate stadium. That's completely misleading. I just hope it dies in the senate and never makes it to vote. Too many suckers in this town, and it will end up passing if they get a chance to vote on it.

It's indeed sucker central. Unfortunately, the town is full of suckers.

I fully expect it to pass. It would have no chance in a general election. In a low turnout referendum, the Dolphins will own the airwaves and the propaganda.

There is indeed plenty of false impression that the lower bowl will be gutted and the seats moved significantly closer. That idea was floated on Dolphin message boards many times within the past few years, and posters still cling to it. That's going to apply to the voting populous as well. The Dolphins are expert at hinting at improvements that will never happen, while cloaking the project in fear, if the vote is No.

Ross came out and said last week that his children will have no choice but to sell the franchise if he dies, while implying the new owner might move the team out of town. It's one disgraceful comment after another, like a few days ago when he said Tony Sparano "damaged the whole organization." Classy as ever. Yet we're supposed to reward the guy. Unbelievable.

Ross is in his early 70s and knows he has a decade remaining at full faculties and relevance. Beyond that it's a crapshoot. Not coincidentally, this slob patchwork plan will be enough to appease the NFL brass for a decade, with a Super Bowl or two. At that point it's a terrible stadium with a toupee. Ross will either be dead, or won't care. Thanks suckers.

The stadium is a bland graying ill-conceived neutral site disgrace. I posted on the night of the spring game that they played a video of the proposed patchwork on the big screen during the second quarter. Wow, how pristine. It might have fooler potential if I weren't sitting in the actual building, which bore zero relationship to what was onscreen, other than dimensions. The guy behind me and I had been laughing just 15 minutes earlier about the idiocy of the roof, a project that was guaranteed not to be ideal or effective, but merely the toupee that happened to clumsily fit the sterile pathetic joke of a stadium in an irrelevant location.

 

[BiltmoreCANE]

Anyone in the know on this deal?....will it get done today?

 

[CyberCane]

I think it's interesting that the title of this video is "Miami Dolphins Newly Renovated Stadium - Fly Through."


If these renovations do NOT significantly improve the game day experience, then we can kiss goodbye any chance for our own stadium. Check out what we could have for $250M, not for the $400M for renovations. For $350M, we could have a 50,000 seat stadium, expandable to 60k seats, at Tropical Park.

Check This Out!: http://www.baylor-stadium.com

You literally couldn't be more wrong.

 

[Hurracanes]

God damnnn I miss the OB - this **** sucks

In other words existing seats won't be any closer....you must be a lobbyist. The entire thing is shady, the ballot question doesn't even mention the total amount. On the ballot it asks to use 7.5 million per year for 30 years from tourist tax to renovate stadium. That's completely misleading. I just hope it dies in the senate and never makes it to vote. Too many suckers in this town, and it will end up passing if they get a chance to vote on it.

It's indeed sucker central. Unfortunately, the town is full of suckers.

I fully expect it to pass. It would have no chance in a general election. In a low turnout referendum, the Dolphins will own the airwaves and the propaganda.

There is indeed plenty of false impression that the lower bowl will be gutted and the seats moved significantly closer. That idea was floated on Dolphin message boards many times within the past few years, and posters still cling to it. That's going to apply to the voting populous as well. The Dolphins are expert at hinting at improvements that will never happen, while cloaking the project in fear, if the vote is No.

Ross came out and said last week that his children will have no choice but to sell the franchise if he dies, while implying the new owner might move the team out of town. It's one disgraceful comment after another, like a few days ago when he said Tony Sparano "damaged the whole organization." Classy as ever. Yet we're supposed to reward the guy. Unbelievable.

Ross is in his early 70s and knows he has a decade remaining at full faculties and relevance. Beyond that it's a crapshoot. Not coincidentally, this slob patchwork plan will be enough to appease the NFL brass for a decade, with a Super Bowl or two. At that point it's a terrible stadium with a toupee. Ross will either be dead, or won't care. Thanks suckers.

The stadium is a bland graying ill-conceived neutral site disgrace. I posted on the night of the spring game that they played a video of the proposed patchwork on the big screen during the second quarter. Wow, how pristine. It might have fooler potential if I weren't sitting in the actual building, which bore zero relationship to what was onscreen, other than dimensions. The guy behind me and I had been laughing just 15 minutes earlier about the idiocy of the roof, a project that was guaranteed not to be ideal or effective, but merely the toupee that happened to clumsily fit the sterile pathetic joke of a stadium in an irrelevant location.

Alright smart guy, what do you want the Miami Dolphins to do? Let me guess, you want a brand new stadium that will cost $1.5B...

In other words existing seats won't be any closer....you must be a lobbyist. The entire thing is shady, the ballot question doesn't even mention the total amount. On the ballot it asks to use 7.5 million per year for 30 years from tourist tax to renovate stadium. That's completely misleading. I just hope it dies in the senate and never makes it to vote. Too many suckers in this town, and it will end up passing if they get a chance to vote on it.

It's indeed sucker central. Unfortunately, the town is full of suckers.

I fully expect it to pass. It would have no chance in a general election. In a low turnout referendum, the Dolphins will own the airwaves and the propaganda.

There is indeed plenty of false impression that the lower bowl will be gutted and the seats moved significantly closer. That idea was floated on Dolphin message boards many times within the past few years, and posters still cling to it. That's going to apply to the voting populous as well. The Dolphins are expert at hinting at improvements that will never happen, while cloaking the project in fear, if the vote is No.

Ross came out and said last week that his children will have no choice but to sell the franchise if he dies, while implying the new owner might move the team out of town. It's one disgraceful comment after another, like a few days ago when he said Tony Sparano "damaged the whole organization." Classy as ever. Yet we're supposed to reward the guy. Unbelievable.

Ross is in his early 70s and knows he has a decade remaining at full faculties and relevance. Beyond that it's a crapshoot. Not coincidentally, this slob patchwork plan will be enough to appease the NFL brass for a decade, with a Super Bowl or two. At that point it's a terrible stadium with a toupee. Ross will either be dead, or won't care. Thanks suckers.

The stadium is a bland graying ill-conceived neutral site disgrace. I posted on the night of the spring game that they played a video of the proposed patchwork on the big screen during the second quarter. Wow, how pristine. It might have fooler potential if I weren't sitting in the actual building, which bore zero relationship to what was onscreen, other than dimensions. The guy behind me and I had been laughing just 15 minutes earlier about the idiocy of the roof, a project that was guaranteed not to be ideal or effective, but merely the toupee that happened to clumsily fit the sterile pathetic joke of a stadium in an irrelevant location.

Yes. There is no denying Sun Life stadium is one of the most unimpressive stadiums in the NFL. It is old, outdated and provides a terrible gameday experience. Ross wants a quick fix so he can make his money when he sells the team. The Giants/Jets, Cardinals, Cowboys have recently moved into beautiful stadiums. San Francisco, Atlanta and Minnesota will be moving into state of the art facilities soon. This renovation proposal will never compete with those stadiums in the long run, the current structure of the building doesn`t allow it. In 10-15 years, this stadium will be old and outdated, and we could possibly see the NFL say to the Dolphins our stadium is too old, once again. Have we not learned from history? Wayne Huizenga invested $250 million in renovating Sun Life stadium just to secure a Super Bow spot. Look what happened after that. Why should tax payers waste $400 million in a stadium that will not compete with other NFL teams? Invest the money correctly now, build a new state of the art stadium that will lock us down for the next 50 years.

 

[brittle757]

With regards to the renovations, I like them but I still would like to see the seats a little closer than what they projected them to be

 

[WhatTheHell]

Well, this is officially not happening.

My friend was working on their campaign for this at the stadium and they just shut it down today.

 

[Consigliere]

Well, this is officially not happening.

My friend was working on their campaign for this at the stadium and they just shut it down today.

While I get this would be BETTER for the canes, I am hoping that maybe a long term plan can be started from this failure.

 

[BisCane]

Well, this is officially not happening.

My friend was working on their campaign for this at the stadium and they just shut it down today.

While I get this would be BETTER for the canes, I am hoping that maybe a long term plan can be started from this failure.

Eminent domain Liberty City near the old Miami Arena, and burn Fins stadium to the ground

 

[Dingaan1828]

Well, this is officially not happening.

My friend was working on their campaign for this at the stadium and they just shut it down today.

While I get this would be BETTER for the canes, I am hoping that maybe a long term plan can be started from this failure.

Eminent domain Liberty City near the old Miami Arena, and burn Fins stadium to the ground

That's not Liberty City.

 

[BigCaneAl]

Looks like its dead...didn't make it out of legislature. Ross will have to pay for it himself.

 

[Ray52]

Here is part of Dolphins Owner Stephen Ross' Statement

Tonight, Speaker Weatherford did far more than just deny the people of Miami Dade the right to vote on an issue critical to the future of our local economy. The Speaker singlehandedly put the future of Super Bowls and other big events at risk for Miami Dade and for all of Florida. He put politics before the people and the 4,000 jobs this project would have created for Miami Dade,and that is just wrong.

I am deeply disappointed by the Speaker's decision. He gave me and many others his word that this legislation would go to the floor of the House for a vote, where I know, and he knows, we had the votes to win by a margin as large as we did in the Senate. It’s hard to understand why he would stop an election already in process and disenfranchise the 40,000 people who have already voted. I can only assume he felt it was in his political interest to do so. Time will tell if that is the case, but I am certain this decision will follow Speaker Weatherford for many years to come.

In the future, I will look to play an important role in fixing the dysfunction in Tallahassee and will continue to work to create good jobs in Miami Dade and throughout South Florida

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nake...ts-weatherford-for-spiking-dolphins-deal.html

Ross is a big time GOP donor so he's doubly ****ed off a Weatherford. Have no idea who this guy is or how he's thought of within his party, but he just got a billionaire mad at him and that's never a good thing.

 

[canecountry3]

If the billionaire owner of the Dolphins thinks stadium renovations are of the utmost importance to the franchise and surrounding county, he can pay for it himself.

Otherwise he can shut up.