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Golden gonna have to pull a Jedi mind trick to get Thomas
 
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CANE4LIFE said:
Going to be a long few weeks gents. This is recruiting. Fact is I think we have been a bit overly optimistic here for a while. Golden and his recruiting have taken on a ridiculous mythical stature that is simply unrealistic. I mean the fact that Golden has pulled in the guys he has is already amazing, considering that we are ten years from a BCS game, we have sucked b@lls for almost a decade, are on our third coach in 6 years, just came off another mediocre season, and are facing an NCAA @ss whooping.

The fact that we are in contention for some of these top kids is impressive in and of itself, but I tend to look at these things pessmistically. That's why I dont care about following Juniors, or early commitments, and all that cr@p. After decades of following recruiting, the highs and lows will crush you if you dont keep things in perspective, and try to be realistic. Its so easy to get carried away with the blind homerism, but the fact is, even in the best of years we still lost out on some top prospects. I honestly dont think we are going to land all the guys we want. **** I would be doing backflips if we can close with Kirkland, Collins, Grace, Thomas and maybe Bostwick. I can even live with Bostwick going to prep for a year, since realistically very few Frosh DTs are going to be making a significant impact in year one.

The two guys Im the most worried about are Thomas, Collins and DT. The USC thing really bothers me about Thomas. I dont like the vibe it gives, not for a hometown kid who is supposedly so enamoured with the U. The Collins situation has also bothered me for a while too. When a kid decommits like that, it almost never works out for us in the end. The fact that this kid has been searching high and low for other programs, despite the fact that this is the perfect place for him, just leads me to believe there is something pushing him elsewhere.

So as of now, Im going to approach things as I always do. Expect the worse, and hope for the best, Im going to expect Thomas and Collins are going to ***** us, and mentally prepare myself for that now. I would recommend most of you do that too. Thus, if it does happen, the board doesnt go into meltdown mode, where people are trashing Golden and the staff, and disparaging the kids we DID get, and the commitments THEY made to our program, because we lost out on some guys we wanted. And if we manage to pull them, well then it will be a pleasant surprise, like finding the keys to a new Corvette under the Xmas tree you werent expecting.

This stuff happens every year. Even if we lose out on these kids, Golden and staff have done a **** of a job considering the sh*t show we have been dealing with here. When we start winning again, and have this NCAA cloud finally gone from over our heads, we are going to start winning these big battles for the super studs again. Its impressive enough that we have landed the ones we have.
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Well said.

Just a few days ago many on this Board predicted a sweep of the remaining targets on our Big Board. These young pups are too naive and effusively enthusiastic to realistically assess our chances. But, history tells us otherwise. Al and his staff are recruiting in an extremely challenging environment. We've already lost Williams and are in a fight for the others. We will get our share but I expect to lose at least one and perhaps two of the South Florida kids. To believe otherwise is foolish.
 
Looking at things negatively=boring.

I'll continue to believe we are gonna get these guys until we don't.

And if we don't, I won't freak out because I understand how this thing works.
 
Gables Cane said:
CANE4LIFE said:
Going to be a long few weeks gents. This is recruiting. Fact is I think we have been a bit overly optimistic here for a while. Golden and his recruiting have taken on a ridiculous mythical stature that is simply unrealistic. I mean the fact that Golden has pulled in the guys he has is already amazing, considering that we are ten years from a BCS game, we have sucked b@lls for almost a decade, are on our third coach in 6 years, just came off another mediocre season, and are facing an NCAA @ss whooping.

The fact that we are in contention for some of these top kids is impressive in and of itself, but I tend to look at these things pessmistically. That's why I dont care about following Juniors, or early commitments, and all that cr@p. After decades of following recruiting, the highs and lows will crush you if you dont keep things in perspective, and try to be realistic. Its so easy to get carried away with the blind homerism, but the fact is, even in the best of years we still lost out on some top prospects. I honestly dont think we are going to land all the guys we want. **** I would be doing backflips if we can close with Kirkland, Collins, Grace, Thomas and maybe Bostwick. I can even live with Bostwick going to prep for a year, since realistically very few Frosh DTs are going to be making a significant impact in year one.

The two guys Im the most worried about are Thomas, Collins and DT. The USC thing really bothers me about Thomas. I dont like the vibe it gives, not for a hometown kid who is supposedly so enamoured with the U. The Collins situation has also bothered me for a while too. When a kid decommits like that, it almost never works out for us in the end. The fact that this kid has been searching high and low for other programs, despite the fact that this is the perfect place for him, just leads me to believe there is something pushing him elsewhere.

So as of now, Im going to approach things as I always do. Expect the worse, and hope for the best, Im going to expect Thomas and Collins are going to ***** us, and mentally prepare myself for that now. I would recommend most of you do that too. Thus, if it does happen, the board doesnt go into meltdown mode, where people are trashing Golden and the staff, and disparaging the kids we DID get, and the commitments THEY made to our program, because we lost out on some guys we wanted. And if we manage to pull them, well then it will be a pleasant surprise, like finding the keys to a new Corvette under the Xmas tree you werent expecting.

This stuff happens every year. Even if we lose out on these kids, Golden and staff have done a **** of a job considering the sh*t show we have been dealing with here. When we start winning again, and have this NCAA cloud finally gone from over our heads, we are going to start winning these big battles for the super studs again. Its impressive enough that we have landed the ones we have.
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Well said.

Just a few days ago many on this Board predicted a sweep of the remaining targets on our Big Board. These young pups are too naive and effusively enthusiastic to realistically assess our chances. But, history tells us otherwise. Al and his staff are recruiting in an extremely challenging environment. We've already lost Williams and are in a fight for the others. We will get our share but I expect to lose at least one and perhaps two of the South Florida kids. To believe otherwise is foolish.
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When you say one or two you mean John Franklin and Michael Johnson right?
 
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No offense but 1/2 the people on the board are just like fsu fans. You think we're getting everyone. I said it before think you get everyone and your in for major disappointment. I want them all but it's not realistic. If we get them that great..... If not my disappointment is mitigated.
 
Otowncane said:
No offense but 1/2 the people on the board are just like fsu fans. You think we're getting everyone. I said it before think you get everyone and your in for major disappointment. I want them all but it's not realistic. If we get them that great..... If not my disappointment is mitigated.
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FSU fans are under the impression that they're getting everyone fromSouth Florida, including kids from BTW. It's like UM fans predicting they're going to get the top prospects from Lincoln HS in Tally. It's absurd and nothing alike.
 
weownfsu said:
Otowncane said:
No offense but 1/2 the people on the board are just like fsu fans. You think we're getting everyone. I said it before think you get everyone and your in for major disappointment. I want them all but it's not realistic. If we get them that great..... If not my disappointment is mitigated.
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FSU fans are under the impression that they're getting everyone fromSouth Florida, including kids from BTW. It's like UM fans predicting they're going to get the top prospects from Lincoln HS in Tally. It's absurd and nothing alike.
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Exactly
 
weownfsu said:
Otowncane said:
No offense but 1/2 the people on the board are just like fsu fans. You think we're getting everyone. I said it before think you get everyone and your in for major disappointment. I want them all but it's not realistic. If we get them that great..... If not my disappointment is mitigated.
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FSU fans are under the impression that they're getting everyone fromSouth Florida, including kids from BTW. It's like UM fans predicting they're going to get the top prospects from Lincoln HS in Tally. It's absurd and nothing alike.
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Yeah great point we don't go around saying where getting all the players from Jacksonville or tally, never thought of that...excellent point
 
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I'd be cool with bots, Collins, Kirkland, and grace.

If we can get coley and 6... That's be awesome, but we're pretty loaded with young unproven talent at both spots as is.
 
I agree with those that say we should be realistic but let me pick this place at the bottom page 4 of the replies where most have grown weary and moved to other post to throw out something to look for. Bryant was to visit this weekend but delayed his visit to his last weekend. Like Bryant Thomas cancelled and is going to USC a non candidate this weekend. I believe he goes to FSU or Bama next weekend and GA. for his last visit. Here's what we need to watch for. If Thomas cancels his last visit to Ga. a non candidate and then takes his Miami official then I smell a rat and his name is Al Golden and both Bryant and Thomas announce for us on NSD. Just a theory but what the heck.
 
We'll get Collins, Thomas, Kirkland, Grace, Bryant and Bostwick (if qualifies). We will lose Coley and Robnson. Me personally, I would be good with that and if had to pick two recruits to miss on; it would be these two. I hope I'm wrong and we get a clean sweep, but I don't think so.
 
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miami_yak said:
We'll get Collins, Thomas, Kirkland, Grace, Bryant and Bostwick (if qualifies). We will lose Coley and Robnson. Me personally, I would be good with that and if had to pick two recruits to miss on; it would be these two. I hope I'm wrong and we get a clean sweep, but I don't think so.
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I would take Coley over Bryant at this point.
 
UMcanesfan420 said:
miami_yak said:
We'll get Collins, Thomas, Kirkland, Grace, Bryant and Bostwick (if qualifies). We will lose Coley and Robnson. Me personally, I would be good with that and if had to pick two recruits to miss on; it would be these two. I hope I'm wrong and we get a clean sweep, but I don't think so.
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I would take Coley over Bryant at this point.
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I would but Keef's position is needed more so than wr. we have plenty of depth.
 
MT6 has already got a school in mind.. and... it ain't Miami.

why waste a perfectly good trip to Cali over a school he isn't going to end up at. For him to miss the 18th after him being a top target and 18th being the most important day.. if we can't get him to come on the 18th .. a signature on NSD isn't even close
 
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eliteproxy said:
MT6 has already got a school in mind.. and... it ain't Miami.

why waste a perfectly good trip to Cali over a school he isn't going to end up at. For him to miss the 18th after him being a top target and 18th being the most important day.. if we can't get him to come on the 18th .. a signature on NSD isn't even close
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smdh...we might as well stop recruiting him
 
jerzeycane said:
eliteproxy said:
MT6 has already got a school in mind.. and... it ain't Miami.

why waste a perfectly good trip to Cali over a school he isn't going to end up at. For him to miss the 18th after him being a top target and 18th being the most important day.. if we can't get him to come on the 18th .. a signature on NSD isn't even close
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smdh...we might as well stop recruiting him
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lulz...Man. Recruiting is ripping this family apart!!!
 
919Cane2DaGrave said:
jerzeycane said:
eliteproxy said:
MT6 has already got a school in mind.. and... it ain't Miami.

why waste a perfectly good trip to Cali over a school he isn't going to end up at. For him to miss the 18th after him being a top target and 18th being the most important day.. if we can't get him to come on the 18th .. a signature on NSD isn't even close
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smdh...we might as well stop recruiting him
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lulz...Man. Recruiting is ripping this family apart!!!
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lol...why waste a good vacation on USCs dime when he come back and visit Miami any time he wants. He wasn't planning on going but the ticket was bought and he was told to stick to his original plan at the last minute. NBD honestly bc if hes gonna come to miami **** come and he doesnt need to come the 18th to figure that out. its a different story if he never visits before NSD but he does have a couple weeks to visit and it doesnt have to be an OV
 
UMcanesfan420 said:
miami_yak said:
We'll get Collins, Thomas, Kirkland, Grace, Bryant and Bostwick (if qualifies). We will lose Coley and Robnson. Me personally, I would be good with that and if had to pick two recruits to miss on; it would be these two. I hope I'm wrong and we get a clean sweep, but I don't think so.
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I would take Coley over Bryant at this point.
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Same here. While its obvious that DT is a must needed position to fill, Coleys ceiling is huge. Taking a game changing playmaker is almost always a must, especially when Coley could potentially change games next season. Dont want to miss out on a playmaker that we could look back and say "what if" to, much like Amari this past season
 
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