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Geo305 said:
They need to take 4 LBs minimum, 5 should be max. I don’t think people understand that it’s very very likely we lose 5 after the end of the season and could be a 6th with a transfer with the logjam that is now at SLB.

The type of LB crop this is this year. It is not wise to put a low cap like 3. Yes FL does produce LBs but not at the rate it has this year. Take while the supply is there, we are going to have a ton of departures at LB.

Me and D$ have been on the McIntosh highest ceiling is LB train for a long time but..... they are going to give him every opportunity to shine at RB first. Can’t recruit off a hypothetical like that.

6-7 DL, 4-5 LB and 5 DB sounds about right considering who they have targeted and following the tea leaves
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Put me in the LB need camp too. We have 2 that can be counted on at this point. Doesnt mean we can’t get better but we still need numbers
 
Just looking at our defensive depth chart going forward I think we take:

3-4 DTs. 3 minimum, 4 if a highly rated guy surprises us and wants in. Daxon, Brown (hopefully he sticks) and Sorrells.
3 DEs: Cam Williams, Bogle and a 3rd. Not sure who that 3rd will be. Ideally Summerall or Kevin Harris out of Georgia (made his top 3 without a visit). Brooks and Joyner could possibly move to DE or put their hand in the dirt on passing downs too.
4 LBs. I think 4 is the perfect number. 5 would be overloading and throw off depth going forward. You got to remember Steed shirted and is technically a freshman. I think the 4 are: Pierre, Brooks, Huff and Solomon.
4 CBs: Not really sure which 4 it ends up being, but I think 4 is a good number. Current guess: Stevenson, Couch, Jaden Davis, Sanguinetti
3 safeties: Again, not sure who the three are but I think that's a good number. Current guess: Smith, Logan, Battle

Athletes: Richards could end up on offense and McIntosh could end up at LB.
 
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where is cunningham been wavering?. Dude just visited here last month. He called his offer from the u the moment his life changed. I dont know...that kid seems locked in. Only way hes wavering is if we backed off.

At DE- Theres a guy their recruiting originally from Broward but playing out of sttae somewhere. Chances for him is high.
https://247sports.com/Player/JJ-Weaver-46035310

At cb if they are not recruiting Elam...again need their head examined. I never liked Dent all that much, Elam has the pedigree at the position and looks to be able to play cb or fs rather easily. Hes a no brainer all out recruit in the Tyson Campbell/ Surtain range as a player imo. Im not as high on Sanguinetti as Elam.

Lb- Love....Rian Davis. Dude is 6'3 230+ and ran sub 4.8 40 this month. Thats a heat seeking missle. I like Huff the most of the "STA LBS" and he just transferred there. Brown and Solomon to me are undersized guys but they both can run. But Huff is more rangy. I would like a group of: Rian Davis, Pierre, Sam Brooks, Huff, and one of Solomon /Darius Williams. Dont think we get Eafford out of Deerfield even though he is a beast. I would think of treating Brooks like Steed where i would redshirt him and get him right.
 
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Too many people have said we’re not recruiting Elam and that’s pathetic, idc if kid is a lean to somewhere else. You know how many kids in the past have been a “Miami lean” and come signing day they sign elsewhere. It’s about time for us to start breaking other teams hearts instead of ours always getting broke on NSD.
 
1. QB - Michael Johnson

2. RB - Marcus Crowley
3. RB - Kenny McIntosh (might end up playing SS or OLB here if RB Trey Sanders wants in)

4. WR - Jeremiah Payton
5. WR - Frank Ladson


6. TE - Larry Hodges
7. TE - Keon Zipperer

8. OT - Darnell Wright (longshot but still possible with Hartley on him)
9. OT - Brandon Cunningham
10. OT - Michael Tarquin
11. OG/OT - Evan Neal
12. OG/OT - Kingsley Equakun

13. DT/OG - Renato Brown

14. DT - Denzel Daxon
15. DT - Jaqueze Sorrells

16. SDE/DT - Braylen Ingraham

17. WDE - Kris Bogle
18. WDE - Cameron Williams
19. SDE - Lloyd Summerall

20. WDE/OLB - Sam Brooks

21. ILB/OLB - Jesiah Pierre
22. ILB/OLB - Avery Huff

23. OLB/Rover SS - Anthony Solomon

24. SS - Keontra Smith

25. CB/FS - Joshua Sanguinetti
26. CB/FS - Tyrique Stevenson

27. CB - Chris Steele (biggest long shot on the list IMO & most likely won't be in the class, but he is very interested)
28. CB - Te'Cory Couch

29. ATH (APB/FS) - Mark Antony Richards


29 in this class, seems a bit high, but if we can get those 29, no way we turn em down (maybe Cunningham or Equakun may get "processed").
 
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Safety knowles- provides nothing
2 safeties moves to linebacker
Smith
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So we need like 6 dbs
 
OL - Neal, Putnam, Eguakan, Tarquin,
DL - Braylen, Davis, Jaquaze / Bogle Williams Summerall/Harris
LB - Pierre Brooks Solomon Davis/Huff
DB - Richards, Tyrique, Steele/Gant
 
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Safeties: Jordan Battle, Keontre Smith
CBs: Sanguinetti, Stevenson, Couch, Davis.


I feel like I'm missing an obvious name. Stevenson and Sanguinetti obviously can play safety as well.
 
gogeta4 said:
where is cunningham been wavering?. Dude just visited here last month. He called his offer from the u the moment his life changed. I dont know...that kid seems locked in. Only way hes wavering is if we backed off.

At DE- Theres a guy their recruiting originally from Broward but playing out of sttae somewhere. Chances for him is high.
https://247sports.com/Player/JJ-Weaver-46035310

At cb if they are not recruiting Elam...again need their head examined. I never liked Dent all that much, Elam has the pedigree at the position and looks to be able to play cb or fs rather easily. Hes a no brainer all out recruit in the Tyson Campbell/ Surtain range as a player imo. Im not as high on Sanguinetti as Elam.

Lb- Love....Rian Davis. Dude is 6'3 230+ and ran sub 4.8 40 this month. Thats a heat seeking missle. I like Huff the most of the "STA LBS" and he just transferred there. Brown and Solomon to me are undersized guys but they both can run. But Huff is more rangy. I would like a group of: Rian Davis, Pierre, Sam Brooks, Huff, and one of Solomon /Darius Williams. Dont think we get Eafford out of Deerfield even though he is a beast. I would think of treating Brooks like Steed where i would redshirt him and get him right.
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I want Cunningham bad believe me. I really like the kid as an OT. Just have heard his commitment not that solid and he hasn’t been here since paradise actually.


And yeah JJ Weaver is from Fort Lauderdale originally.

**** yes on Rian Davis. He was one of my 10 in Florida to blow up during spring and sure enough it happened. Him & Huff definitely need to be the top two priorities right now and it seems like it. Agreed on Brown and Solomon size but they cover well and play with good instincts. 4 or 5. We need LBs bad. Same boat with you on Eaford, I just don’t think it’s gonna happen.
 
BeachCanes said:
Safeties: Jordan Battle, Keontre Smith
CBs: Sanguinetti, Stevenson, Couch, Davis.


I feel like I'm missing an obvious name. Stevenson and Sanguinetti obviously can play safety as well.
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John Dixon & Renardo Green got game too. Any mix of the 6 you mentioned and the other 2 I mentioned of 5-6 of them is ideal. Rique is going to start as a safety from what I’ve heard. Sango could play safety but he’s very likely a corner if you’ve seen him in person.
 
Geo305 said:
John Dixon & Renardo Green got game too. Any mix of the 6 you mentioned and the other 2 I mentioned of 5-6 of them is ideal. Rique is going to start as a safety from what I’ve heard. Sango could play safety but he’s very likely a corner if you’ve seen him in person.
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I'd love to have Johnny Dixon; not familiar with Renardo Green's game. Also I feel like we lead for all those guys I listed except Jayden Davis. Steele is also an option but that will be a hard pull.
 
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10cane said:
OL - Neal, Putnam, Eguakan, Tarquin,
DL - Braylen, Davis, Jaquaze / Bogle Williams Summerall/Harris
LB - Pierre Brooks Solomon Davis/Huff
DB - Richards, Tyrique, Steele/Gant
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Banda has made Keontra a very big priority and spent a lot of time with him on Saturday. As much as they like Richards at safety, they are open to playing him on offense.(FYI he played WR at paradise last year and did very well)

I understand numbers but considering who they have targeted and making a priority. Very small chance we take 3 DBs or even 4. Looking like 5 is the minimum, they will work with the numbers. In total I’ve heard the range of 27-28 for this class in total.
 
BeachCanes said:
I'd love to have Johnny Dixon; not familiar with Renardo Green's game. Also I feel like we lead for all those guys I listed except Jayden Davis. Steele is also an option but that will be a hard pull.
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Battle feeling OSU a lot but I know that his dad really pushing Miami. Everything I’ve heard on Jaden is pro-UF but he’s been very receptive about Miami. I’ll always say this recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint, so Miami can work on him. Nothing set in stone yet.

Green could fill Bandy role one day here if they decide to take him. Highly suggest watching him. Corners they are looking at the most right now are Sanguinetti, Jaden, Dixon, Couch & Green. Think it’s likely 3 of those make it in. 2-3 spots spent at safety likely between Rique, Keontra & Battle. I do like Gant but I’ve heard much more pro-FSU vibes than anything, I was surprised when he committed to Bama.
 
RiDLer80 said:
Just looking at our defensive depth chart going forward I think we take:

3-4 DTs. 3 minimum, 4 if a highly rated guy surprises us and wants in. Daxon, Brown (hopefully he sticks) and Sorrells.
3 DEs: Cam Williams, Bogle and a 3rd. Not sure who that 3rd will be. Ideally Summerall or Kevin Harris out of Georgia (made his top 3 without a visit). Brooks and Joyner could possibly move to DE or put their hand in the dirt on passing downs too.
4 LBs. I think 4 is the perfect number. 5 would be overloading and throw off depth going forward. You got to remember Steed shirted and is technically a freshman. I think the 4 are: Pierre, Brooks, Huff and Solomon.
4 CBs: Not really sure which 4 it ends up being, but I think 4 is a good number. Current guess: Stevenson, Couch, Jaden Davis, Sanguinetti
3 safeties: Again, not sure who the three are but I think that's a good number. Current guess: Smith, Logan, Battle

Athletes: Richards could end up on offense and McIntosh could end up at LB.
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They are going to take Rique as a safety from what I’ve heard.

They’ve already talked with richards about offense.
 
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Add me also to the list of not understanding why we are not recruiting Elam. The Regional sold me on him. The size and speed are all there and he has improved a lot compared to last years Regional where he struggled a bit. The two camps he showed up to this year, he was clearly one of the top guys.
 
Geo305 said:
Yes DE needs a fix but I think you read over where Ingraham would likely play DE his first year. RDavis could potentially grow into a DE considering he’s 233 right now. Kevin Harris a major longshot and I just don’t see who else would be viable as the 3rd DE in this class. It’s encouraging that Summerrall has been visiting but no guarantee, FSU and UGA pushing very hard for him. It would be bad to just reach for numbers sake.

They need to take 4 LBs minimum, 5 should be max. I don’t think people understand that it’s very very likely we lose 5 after the end of the season and could be a 6th with a transfer with the logjam that is now at SLB.

The type of LB crop this is this year. It is not wise to put a low cap like 3. Yes FL does produce LBs but not at the rate it has this year. Take while the supply is there, we are going to have a ton of departures at LB.

Me and D$ have been on the McIntosh highest ceiling is LB train for a long time but..... they are going to give him every opportunity to shine at RB first. Can’t recruit off a hypothetical like that.

6-7 DL, 4-5 LB and 5 DB sounds about right considering who they have targeted and following the tea leaves.
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We need real DEs. Ingraham i see as a future DT even if he spends a year at DE. I expect they will sign 3 DEs minimum. We rotate des and are very short on them.

LB, 3 good kids not counting mcintosh is fine. We dont even play 3 on the field much of the time. 4 is okay also. 5 seems crazy, imo, unless richt plans on taking 29 kids, which i highly doubt.

Again, give me your breakdown by position.

We know 1 qb, and based on commitments and effort, looks like 2 tes, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 4-5 OL, and 6-8 DL. Say 1 ath (richards) and 5-6 DBs. That is 22-26 before LBs. Take my low end, add 4 and you’re at 26. Take my middle range and it’s 28.

i dont think we sign more than 27 based on what we know about richt.

4 LBs max not counting mcintosh. If they lime steed, jennings, joyner, wont be shocked with 3 + mcintosh as an extra athlete.

We say the so fla lb class is so great this year, but i am not as convinced yet it will hold up to national comp over next year. Lets see what pierre ends up showing. It’s a good class, but show me your spence, or perryman. Brooks has been more a rush end than a model lb, from all ive read. Pierre is a small school competition kid. Huff just transferred to sta.

There is a lot to sort out at LB, but in the end, the numbers will fall into line.

QB: 1
RB: 1-2
WR: 2
TE: 2
OL: 4-5
DT: 3-4
DE: 3-4 [7 DL total]
LB: 3-4
DB: 5-6
Ath: 1-2 [Richards; McIntosh]
 
Ethnicsands said:
We need real DEs. Ingraham i see as a future DT even if he spends a year at DE. I expect they will sign 3 DEs minimum. We rotate des and are very short on them.

LB, 3 good kids not counting mcintosh is fine. We dont even play 3 on the field some of the time. 4 is okay also. 5 seems crazy, imo, unless richt plans on taking 29 kids, which i highly doubt. Of the guys you mention we will lose, you sound like youre counting mccray, who ever playes, and perry and smith, who are backups. If they really believe we lose 2 guys early, you might be right. Color me skeptical at this point in time.

Again, give me your breakdown by position.

We know 1 qb, and based on commitments and effort, looks like 2 tes, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 4-5 OL, and 6-8 DL. Say 1 ath (richards) and 5-6 DBs. That is 22-26 before LBs. Take my low end, add 4 and you’re at 26. Take my middle range and it’s 28.

i dont think we sign more than 27 based on what we know about richt.

4 LBs max not counting mcintosh. If they lime steed, jennings, joyner, wont be shocked with 3 + mcintosh as an extra athlete.

We say the so fla lb class is so great this year, but i am not as convinced yet it will hold up to national comp over next year. Lets see what pierre ends up showing. It’s a good class, but show me your spence, or perryman. Brooks has been more a rush end than a model lb, from all ive read. Pierre is a small school competition kid. Huff just transferred to sta. Brown and solomon are nice prospects, but they arent sparq prototypes. R. Davis may be underrated, we will see.

There is a lot to sort out at LB, but in the end, the numbers will fall into line.

QB: 1
RB: 1-2
WR: 2
TE: 2
OL: 4-5
DT: 3-4
DE: 3-4 [7 DL total]
LB: 3-4
DB: 5-6
Ath: 1-2 [Richards; McIntosh]
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Ethnicsands said:
5-6 plus Richards as an athlete. Hard to see how we go past that unless Richt takes a bigger class than he is known for. We will take 11-12 kids just on the OL and DL. Add in 3-4 LBs, 2 TEs, 2 RBs, 1-2 WRs and a QB, and you dn’t have room for a big DB class. And many of the best DB options are at safety. We will have to be selective, is the truth.

The class numbers have to roughly look like this:

Offense: 10-11 kids
QB: 1
TE: 2 (one committed, others still being recruited, roster need)
RB: 2 (one committed, others still being recruited; McIntosh may be an athlete more than RB)
WR: 1-2 (Payton commmitted, Ladson and others being recruited. But note ‘20 has 3 WR commits already)
OL: 4-5 Eguakun, Cunningham committed, Neal, Lucas expected, Tarquin and others still being recruited)

Defense: 15-16 kids
DL: 7 kids. 8 if someone we cant refuse surprises us. 6 if we get the three guys we really want at each spot.
DT: 3-4 (Brown, Daxon committed, Sorrells, Ingraham, Hunter, T. Davis et al still being recruited)
DE: 3-4 (Ca. Williams committed, Bogle targeted, Summerall interested. Big depth issue on roster. Could take 4th kid here)

LB: 3-4 (Brooks, Pierre committed, Eaford, Brown, Solomon and others still being recruited)

DBs: 5 + Richards, IMO

S: 2-3 Very deep set of options at S, including gant, battle, k. Smith, stevenson, richards, logan, sanguinetti
CB: 2-3 We have needs. Not so clear how many kids fit is. Dent sounds like fsu. Couch maybe. The Cali kid. J. Davis we will see how he progresses. Elam i am skeptical. Dixon allegedly interested. Others will emerge.
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Yeah I basically agree with this.
28 is the absolute max for this class, but I think it'll likely end up being like 25 most likely.

For Offense, I think you have the numbers right, but I wouldn't be surprised if we only got 1 WR or 1 TE. Like If we don't get Zipperer at TE in addition to Larry Hodges, we might just be cool with 1. And same situation at WR. Like if we don't get Ladson to add to Payton, I'm not sure we'd take someone else. Like maybe we finally offer Dunmore or something, but the point is I don't think at WR and TE we will be taking guys just to take them. The Only Offensive skill guys we take from now on will be guys we think are elite. Plus if we only get one WR, I think Richards would likely start his career at WR (and he seems to want to play offense anyways)
Secondly, I think RB is gunna be kinda weird. Because I think Crowley for sure has a spot in this class. And McIntosh I bet also will for sure have a spot but he's an athlete and can play safety as well. The question is do we get Sanders or Cain, and is Carter a take? Because if we can get Sanders/Cain I absolutely think we're taking 3 Rbs in 2019. But if we miss out on Sanders/Cain is Daniel Carter a take even with Crowley/McIntosh on board? I personally think so. So you're numbers are probably right at 11 scholarships offensively.

For Defense, I think you're underestimating a little bit tbh. I see 3 DTs as the ideal amount. But I don't see us passing on the 2 commits (Daxon and Brown) or Sorrells, Hunter, and ingraham....Plus Ingraham can be a SDE -.I like Ingraham better at SDE than Briggs and Chatman from last class. DE I think we DEFINITELY want 4 - Bogle, Cameron Williams, Ingraham, and Summerall. If we get all of them we definitely take 4. Plus theres that kid from Georgia Kevin Harris who's a take as well. Anways, Im thinking 8 DLineman. LB I think is clearly going to be 4 this class. I don't see us only getting one more with Pierre and Brooks already committed. Personally I want Avery Huff and Anthony Soloman or Ge'mon eaford..

So DB, yeah I think 6 is the amount we end up getting, which is pretty much what you said. If we only get 1 WR I think Richards starts on offense and we still end up getting 6 DBs.
 
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