RB situation

[canestim]

I love all four guys but we aren't getting all four. But I hope we get at least three of them, think we need more than two. After we lose Duke (I mean I just can't see him staying) we don't have enough depth.

Quit hating on these kids, so pathetic. Can't hate on Cronk for evaluating or Walton for reclassifying. At the same time these kids need to realize they can't carry the rock 25 times per game. We ran about 30 times per game last year, no reason those guys can't share that load and get in on the passing game/returning kicks and stay fresh.

And it's almost a given that at least one guy will be lost to injury for the year every year. So you gotta load up and take everyone who will come. It really hurt us losing Collins and not getting Cook.

 

[AllAboutTheU]

Is Scarlett as physical as Lynch? Only saw them play on ESPN last year and he looked soft and stiff.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Is Scarlett as physical as Lynch? Only saw them play on ESPN last year and he looked soft and stiff.

I wasn't sold on Scarlett either after what I saw last year in that ESPN game, but it was 1 game.

 

[Genghis Cane]

There is now an article up on Canesport on Mark Walton....He says the chances he reclassifies is 50/50.....hmmmm very interesting stuff there. Could help this situation out a lot if he cant

 

[Ispyin]

Me personally. At this point in their careers. I like Scarlett the most. His size, and the speed. Scarlett could come right in and take a crack at the starting spot against Yearby early on if Duke leaves.

I could see Scarlett and Williams ending up 5 stars at the end of the recruiting process.

Scarlett due to, he's a workhorse. I see Scarlett as a young Marshawn Lynch. If you ever watched Marshawn at Cal. I swear their both identical in their games. Just I think Scarlett needs to develop his game in the receiving area. With a good senior season at St. Thomas and the all star game, could definitely see him as a 5 star, due to the fact he is prototype body for nfl runningback. He looks the part that's for sure. His play will decide the rest.

I think if Walton ends up in the 2016 class, could see him as a 5 star. 4 star for 2015 which is due to his size right now. Walton out of all them, needs to bulk up. It's not a knock on his game, just.... He really needs to bulk up. Only thing is I want to see Walton become the main guy on offense for Booker T, want to see how well he does at that. Walton reminds me of Michel actually. Michel IMO was just like Walton, not great at one thing, but good at everything. Which by the way, their is a hall of fame runningback by the name of emmitt smith who was just like that. It's not a bad thing if your good at everything. Jack of all trades like I said earlier.

Williams I can see becoming a 5 star at the end of the recruiting process. Because of his freakish athleticism. Could play just anywhere on offense as a runningback, receiver, in the slot. Recruit sites like guys like that. But Williams has to develop as a runningback. Could see him bringing a threat into special teams too. He's very raw but he has the highest ceiling of these 4. Can see Williams becoming a dynamic player like a Percy Harvin, Tavon Austin, Dexter McCluster, Deanthony Thomas or ultimately his highest ceiling I believe is like Jamaal Charles if he develops correctly. I see Williams more of an athlete than a pure RB at this point. If Williams does indeed come in this class, could see him really making up for the loss of Cook if he pans out. Just like the others could make up for Michel and Collins.

Cronkrite I do see him sticking as a 4 star. Could move up in the rankings a bit though. 11 yards a carry is no joke, idc where it is. He looks the most natural at RB aside from Scarlett. Like I've said before, his game really reminds me of recent Oregon runningbacks just like LaMichael James, but Cronkrite slightly better size than LaMichael and tougher. Cronk brings a threat to special teams too. And it's possible he could be a better safety than he is a runningback, he really should take a crack at that too... Could see him as a hard hitting safety. Cronk would fit well in what we run on offense too.

Even though Cronk has my favorite tape of the 4 of them. Doesn't mean I think he's the best. Think he's a very exciting player. But best right now is Scarlett.

And as I said earlier in this thread, Yearby reminds me of Warrick Dunn.

These comparisons are their ceilings as players. Not saying their gonna be that good but if they live up to potential they can be.

Regardless, I hope everything works out well and we manage to get them all in and all happy.


In terms of readiness to play right away of the four. Would say.

1. Scarlett
2. Cronk
3/4. Williams and Walton

In terms of ceiling if they develop completely.

1. Williams
2. Walton
3. Scarlett
4. Cronk

But remember. Sometimes some players don't pan out and theirs injuries.

Just like back in the day I thought McGahee was primed to be a superstar in the league and then the injury happened, same goes for Gore, even though Gore is turning out one **** of an nfl career right now, he could have been even better. And McGahee hasn't been a slouch in the league either.

Remember that McGahee and Gore had higher ceilings than Edge, and Portis. Not to mention, we also had James Jackson. And pre-injury Davenport was unstoppable.


Have to watch out for Robert Burns in 2017.

Think Burns has the potential to be better than Yearby, Williams, Cronk, Scarlett, and Walton.

He's a freak athlete as well and his size already is unbelievable and he's only going to improve.

Also can't forget that our current guy Duke could go down as one of the greatest and really cement his legacy here this season, as long as he stays healthy.

I'm just hoping for the day we could be blessed to get a back that's like pre-injuries Frank Gore. I really think Frank had the ability before the injuries to become the best to ever play here and god knows how much better he would have been in the nfl if it wasn't for the injuries. Idk if we'll ever see someone like that again. Dukes special man, but Frank pre-injuries was just unreal.

All these guys are nice, but Frank was really a sight to see. What could have been...

RB U could be coming back very soon to the U.

man, I'm way too ADD for that thorough analysis. Gotta keep it more Ariz sized. But solid work. Twitter is killing brain capacity.

 

[AUcane]

Has Walton officially reclassfied? What are his odds of qualifying to UM?

Scarlett is that deal. Y'all boys trippin.

He went from #3 RB to like #12 because he was committed to FAU. That dude is still a top 5 RB in 2015. and yes the 2015 RB class is weak AF.

There is hardly one kid in the 2015 RB class that would have been ranked in the top 10 in 2013 or 2014.

Scarlett doesn't have vision & he doesn't have any moves. He's stiff. His ceiling isn't high. He's already developed for the most part. He's good in HS but wait until he hits college, he runs into his own lineman. He bounces runs outside too much and doesn't find the holes well.

I think he will be like James Wilder Jr. Great HS player but when they hit college, their technique will be exposed.

He has good size and speed but that's it.

Walton will be better than him & Dexter too, they have more tools. Just wait and see....

Scarlett might not be what Yearby/Dex/Conkrite are in terms of lack of stiffness, but what intrigues me abuot Scarlett is he's cut from the 215/220 pound tailback mold. Those are not common in sofla. I'd feel better signing one of those types in order to complement the 5-10/180-190ish pound RBs.

 

[eliteproxy]

how many time we were left at the alter with a position of need? South Florida recruiting is different.. this isn't Duke Johnson where he sais I am a Cane.. no visits to any other schools etc.. this is a game that changes every month and even sometimes after NSD.

i believe any offer and commitment at anytime needs to be binding and we need to do away with NSD etc. but until then we need to play the game or we will get played again by high school kids and street agents.

 

[Genghis Cane]

Has Walton officially reclassfied? What are his odds of qualifying to UM?

Scarlett is that deal. Y'all boys trippin.

He went from #3 RB to like #12 because he was committed to FAU. That dude is still a top 5 RB in 2015. and yes the 2015 RB class is weak AF.

There is hardly one kid in the 2015 RB class that would have been ranked in the top 10 in 2013 or 2014.

Scarlett doesn't have vision & he doesn't have any moves. He's stiff. His ceiling isn't high. He's already developed for the most part. He's good in HS but wait until he hits college, he runs into his own lineman. He bounces runs outside too much and doesn't find the holes well.

I think he will be like James Wilder Jr. Great HS player but when they hit college, their technique will be exposed.

He has good size and speed but that's it.

Walton will be better than him & Dexter too, they have more tools. Just wait and see....

Scarlett might not be what Yearby/Dex/Conkrite are in terms of lack of stiffness, but what intrigues me abuot Scarlett is he's cut from the 215/220 pound tailback mold. Those are not common in sofla. I'd feel better signing one of those types in order to complement the 5-10/180-190ish pound RBs.

I just said right above you that according to CS he says his chances are 50/50

 

[johnnytsunami01]

How is the running back situation for 2016? Can we say that we would only take 1 back (Walton) next year or do you think we would miss out on too much if we do that in hopes of getting all 3 this year?

 

[fastcane]

One more year in HS would do Walton some good. He'll get bigger and stronger before he gets to Miami, JMO though. Not saying he needs it, just saying the stronger he comes in, the better.

 

[AUcane]

Has Walton officially reclassfied? What are his odds of qualifying to UM?

Scarlett is that deal. Y'all boys trippin.

He went from #3 RB to like #12 because he was committed to FAU. That dude is still a top 5 RB in 2015. and yes the 2015 RB class is weak AF.

There is hardly one kid in the 2015 RB class that would have been ranked in the top 10 in 2013 or 2014.

Scarlett doesn't have vision & he doesn't have any moves. He's stiff. His ceiling isn't high. He's already developed for the most part. He's good in HS but wait until he hits college, he runs into his own lineman. He bounces runs outside too much and doesn't find the holes well.

I think he will be like James Wilder Jr. Great HS player but when they hit college, their technique will be exposed.

He has good size and speed but that's it.

Walton will be better than him & Dexter too, they have more tools. Just wait and see....

Scarlett might not be what Yearby/Dex/Conkrite are in terms of lack of stiffness, but what intrigues me abuot Scarlett is he's cut from the 215/220 pound tailback mold. Those are not common in sofla. I'd feel better signing one of those types in order to complement the 5-10/180-190ish pound RBs.

I just said right above you that according to CS he says his chances are 50/50

Got it, thanks. Does it say when he'll find out? Gotta be soon.

 

[Genghis Cane]

Has Walton officially reclassfied? What are his odds of qualifying to UM?

Scarlett is that deal. Y'all boys trippin.

He went from #3 RB to like #12 because he was committed to FAU. That dude is still a top 5 RB in 2015. and yes the 2015 RB class is weak AF.

There is hardly one kid in the 2015 RB class that would have been ranked in the top 10 in 2013 or 2014.

Scarlett doesn't have vision & he doesn't have any moves. He's stiff. His ceiling isn't high. He's already developed for the most part. He's good in HS but wait until he hits college, he runs into his own lineman. He bounces runs outside too much and doesn't find the holes well.

I think he will be like James Wilder Jr. Great HS player but when they hit college, their technique will be exposed.

He has good size and speed but that's it.

Walton will be better than him & Dexter too, they have more tools. Just wait and see....

Scarlett might not be what Yearby/Dex/Conkrite are in terms of lack of stiffness, but what intrigues me abuot Scarlett is he's cut from the 215/220 pound tailback mold. Those are not common in sofla. I'd feel better signing one of those types in order to complement the 5-10/180-190ish pound RBs.

I just said right above you that according to CS he says his chances are 50/50

Got it, thanks. Does it say when he'll find out? Gotta be soon.

Good question...i'm not sure

 

[D.L.I.N.K.D.A.GR8]

Whats the problem? []_[] ain't bout this life?!?

Man yall do Najeh Davenport and James Jackson dirty brehz them jokers were Ill with the pill too

Only pic I had...but of course I wouldve added those two, plus a few more.

It's all good

@eliteproxy u need to make a RB U banner bro.... respect

 

[01Canes]

How is the running back situation for 2016? Can we say that we would only take 1 back (Walton) next year or do you think we would miss out on too much if we do that in hopes of getting all 3 this year?

We should be taking two next year if Walton can't reclassify. Can't promise any 2015 recruit how many backs we'll take the following year because it's too early to tell what the numbers will look like at the position. Does Duke head to the league, does anyone transfer out if we land all three of Williams/Cronkrite/Scarlett?

The top 2016 targets in this scenario could be Walton and Deon McIntosh, who's Richard's brother and a beast.

 

[Geo305]

This looks like everything is playing out just fine.

I think Walton ends up in 2016 as an early enrollment. Those extra classes will end up helping him after all.

End up taking Cronk, Scarlett & Williams for 2015

2016 we take 2 of these 3 between Walton, McIntosh, and Walker(Hester and Jenkins teammate)

See it being most likely Walton and McIntosh for 2016. See Walker going somewhere else.

And take Burns in 2017.

I think everything will play out just right if Walton stays in 2016. Kinda hoping he stays in 2016, which I think is more likely than not. Will create class separation between the backs.

 

[pb5cane]

I can see Cronkite leaving and Williams leaving giving us Scarlett and Walton.

We need some work horses, that is all I know. Personally out of the 4, Cronkite is the least impressive, he is still a stud but I think the others are just better. Cronkite is a talent that helps and would contribute at any program, but he isnt a difference maker. The other 3 have difference maker potential. Like another poster stated, I think it was maurice, Cronk is like Mike James, a kid you would have on your roster any chance you get but not a difference maker. You recruit all four til the end and then sort it out, cause as someone else pointed out we almost lost Yearby last year and did lose Powell, and they were EEs......

lol cronkrite is a the top between the four RB

Uh no. 4.69 40-time.

 

[Geo305]

I can see Cronkite leaving and Williams leaving giving us Scarlett and Walton.

We need some work horses, that is all I know. Personally out of the 4, Cronkite is the least impressive, he is still a stud but I think the others are just better. Cronkite is a talent that helps and would contribute at any program, but he isnt a difference maker. The other 3 have difference maker potential. Like another poster stated, I think it was maurice, Cronk is like Mike James, a kid you would have on your roster any chance you get but not a difference maker. You recruit all four til the end and then sort it out, cause as someone else pointed out we almost lost Yearby last year and did lose Powell, and they were EEs......

lol cronkrite is a the top between the four RB

Uh no. 4.69 40-time.

Heard that he's run faster than that before. Certainly looks a lot faster than that time.

 

[01Canes]

Posted this in the Scarlett announcement thread, but it's worth repeating here (courtesy of 247 Sports)...

"No pads. No blockers. Just 1-on-1 in open space against a linebacker and four-star recruit Jordan Scarlett couldn’t be touched. Scarlett is an explosive speed back in a big man’s body (5-11, 210). He had the change of direction and vision to go with the breakaway home run speed and nobody made more explosive plays - highlight film worthy plays. Even more impressive, he has the frame that allows his big play ability to translate in pads."

Scarlett was singled out as the best running back on Tuesday and Mark Walton was included in the group of the next three who stood out at RB

"Despite being reclassified to the class of 2015 after previously being a 2016 prospect, Mark Walton still more than held his own. The Miami commit showcased that south Florida speed and he didn’t slow down at all in his one-cut moves in 1-on-1s."

Dexter Williams didn't participate and there was no mention of Jordan Cronkrite in the article.

http://247sports.com/Article/Tuesdays-best-of-the-best-from-The-Opening-Running-backs-29519268

 

[Fountain of Canes]

This looks like everything is playing out just fine.

I think Walton ends up in 2016 as an early enrollment. Those extra classes will end up helping him after all.

End up taking Cronk, Scarlett & Williams for 2015

2016 we take 2 of these 3 between Walton, McIntosh, and Walker(Hester and Jenkins teammate)

See it being most likely Walton and McIntosh for 2016. See Walker going somewhere else.

And take Burns in 2017.

I think everything will play out just right if Walton stays in 2016. Kinda hoping he stays in 2016, which I think is more likely than not. Will create class separation between the backs.

what's makes you so sure on McIntosh u know his bro just committed but any other evidence if he loves the U like his brother.

 

[pb5cane]

5 Star

Posted this in the Scarlett announcement thread, but it's worth repeating here (courtesy of 247 Sports)...

"No pads. No blockers. Just 1-on-1 in open space against a linebacker and four-star recruit Jordan Scarlett couldn’t be touched. Scarlett is an explosive speed back in a big man’s body (5-11, 210). He had the change of direction and vision to go with the breakaway home run speed and nobody made more explosive plays - highlight film worthy plays. Even more impressive, he has the frame that allows his big play ability to translate in pads."

Scarlett was singled out as the best running back on Tuesday and Mark Walton was included in the group of the next three who stood out at RB

"Despite being reclassified to the class of 2015 after previously being a 2016 prospect, Mark Walton still more than held his own. The Miami commit showcased that south Florida speed and he didn’t slow down at all in his one-cut moves in 1-on-1s."

Dexter Williams didn't participate and there was no mention of Jordan Cronkrite in the article.

http://247sports.com/Article/Tuesdays-best-of-the-best-from-The-Opening-Running-backs-29519268