Ranking the teams on our schedule

[OldManCane]

Number of players projected to be drafted in 2015 (Cbssports.com)

1.) FSU (10)
2.) Louisville (8)
3.) Miami (7)
4.) Nebraska (3)
5.) Virginia (3)
6.) Georgia Tech (2)
7.) Duke (1)
8.) Cincinnati (1)
9.) Pitt (1)



Number of 4/5 star frosh/soph/juniors the roster (rivals.com)

1. FSU (40)
2. Miami (25)
3. Va Tech (19)
4. Nebraska (13)
5. Virginia (11)
6. Pitt (11)
7. UNC (10)
8. Louisville (5)
9. Ga Tech (3)
10. Duke (1)
11. Cincinnati (1)
12. FAMU and Arkansas State have none



Take from this what you will.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

We have the hardest schedule in ACC play.

 

[OldManCane]

We have the hardest schedule in ACC play.

Objectively, though, we should be better than every team we play except FSU. Louisville, Nebraska, and VT by a smaller margin, the rest by quite a large margin.

 

[plantcity3]

Number of players projected to be drafted in 2015 (Cbssports.com)

1.) FSU (10)
2.) Louisville (8)
3.) Miami (7)
4.) Nebraska (3)
5.) Virginia (3)
6.) Georgia Tech (2)
7.) Duke (1)
8.) Cincinnati (1)
9.) Pitt (1)



Number of 4/5 star frosh/soph/juniors the roster (rivals.com)

1. FSU (40)
2. Miami (25)
3. Va Tech (19)
4. Nebraska (13)
5. Virginia (11)
6. Pitt (11)
7. UNC (10)
8. Louisville (5)
9. Ga Tech (3)
10. Duke (1)
11. Cincinnati (1)
12. FAMU and Arkansas State have none



Take from this what you will.

I just had a WTF moment when I seen Duke only have one 4/5 star on their roster.

 

[OldManCane]

Number of players projected to be drafted in 2015 (Cbssports.com)

1.) FSU (10)
2.) Louisville (8)
3.) Miami (7)
4.) Nebraska (3)
5.) Virginia (3)
6.) Georgia Tech (2)
7.) Duke (1)
8.) Cincinnati (1)
9.) Pitt (1)



Number of 4/5 star frosh/soph/juniors the roster (rivals.com)

1. FSU (40)
2. Miami (25)
3. Va Tech (19)
4. Nebraska (13)
5. Virginia (11)
6. Pitt (11)
7. UNC (10)
8. Louisville (5)
9. Ga Tech (3)
10. Duke (1)
11. Cincinnati (1)
12. FAMU and Arkansas State have none



Take from this what you will.

I just had a WTF moment when I seen Duke only have one 4/5 star on their roster.

When I went through this exercise it blew me away.... Charlie Strong and Cutcliffe are elite coaches, especially Strong. How was he able to get so many 3 stars drafted, that's the sign of a talent evaluator right there.

Guy would have been a monster at Miami.

On the flip side of that, you wonder why Mike London still has a job if they can't be competitive this year in the coastal.

No excuses for Miami, we have the best team in the Coastal, this is the year we need to win it point blank.

 

[CyberCane]

"Number of players drafted" needs to be further broken down by projected round. You can have 5 players drafted in the first two rounds vs 7 players drafted in rounds 4-6…who has more "talent"?

 

[CaneAlmighty]

Number of players projected to be drafted in 2015 (Cbssports.com)

1.) FSU (10)
2.) Louisville (8)
3.) Miami (7)
4.) Nebraska (3)
5.) Virginia (3)
6.) Georgia Tech (2)
7.) Duke (1)
8.) Cincinnati (1)
9.) Pitt (1)



Number of 4/5 star frosh/soph/juniors the roster (rivals.com)

1. FSU (40)
2. Miami (25)
3. Va Tech (19)
4. Nebraska (13)
5. Virginia (11)
6. Pitt (11)
7. UNC (10)
8. Louisville (5)
9. Ga Tech (3)
10. Duke (1)
11. Cincinnati (1)
12. FAMU and Arkansas State have none



Take from this what you will.

I just had a WTF moment when I seen Duke only have one 4/5 star on their roster.

When I went through this exercise it blew me away.... Charlie Strong and Cutcliffe are elite coaches, especially Strong. How was he able to get so many 3 stars drafted, that's the sign of a talent evaluator right there.

Guy would have been a monster at Miami.

On the flip side of that, you wonder why Mike London still has a job if they can't be competitive this year in the coastal.

No excuses for Miami, we have the best team in the Coastal, this is the year we need to win it point blank.

I wouldn't call them elite.

Strong underachieved at UL having the most talent in the Big East by a wide margin.
Faced a Miami team that was minus 3 key offensive weapons and a dud for a QB.

And I like Cutcliffe. Kudos to the Duke Admin for not listening to the fans who wanted him fired and sticking with him.
But last year was lightning in a bottle for them. This year they get put back in place.

 

[OldManCane]

"Number of players drafted" needs to be further broken down by projected round. You can have 5 players drafted in the first two rounds vs 7 players drafted in rounds 4-6…who has more "talent"?

It's a good rough estimate of the level of talent on each team, especially since at this point it's too early to tell who will be drafted where, and it's much easier to guess who will be drafted at all.

 

[OldManCane]

Number of players projected to be drafted in 2015 (Cbssports.com)

1.) FSU (10)
2.) Louisville (8)
3.) Miami (7)
4.) Nebraska (3)
5.) Virginia (3)
6.) Georgia Tech (2)
7.) Duke (1)
8.) Cincinnati (1)
9.) Pitt (1)



Number of 4/5 star frosh/soph/juniors the roster (rivals.com)

1. FSU (40)
2. Miami (25)
3. Va Tech (19)
4. Nebraska (13)
5. Virginia (11)
6. Pitt (11)
7. UNC (10)
8. Louisville (5)
9. Ga Tech (3)
10. Duke (1)
11. Cincinnati (1)
12. FAMU and Arkansas State have none



Take from this what you will.

I just had a WTF moment when I seen Duke only have one 4/5 star on their roster.

When I went through this exercise it blew me away.... Charlie Strong and Cutcliffe are elite coaches, especially Strong. How was he able to get so many 3 stars drafted, that's the sign of a talent evaluator right there.

Guy would have been a monster at Miami.

On the flip side of that, you wonder why Mike London still has a job if they can't be competitive this year in the coastal.

No excuses for Miami, we have the best team in the Coastal, this is the year we need to win it point blank.

I wouldn't call them elite.

Strong underachieved at UL having the most talent in the Big East by a wide margin.
Faced a Miami team that was minus 3 key offensive weapons and a dud for a QB.

And I like Cutcliffe. Kudos to the Duke Admin for not listening to the fans who wanted him fired and sticking with him.
But last year was lightning in a bottle for them. This year they get put back in place.

I disagree about Strong. I would rather have Charlie Strong in Miami than Nick Saban. Yep, that's right. Strong has demonstrated Butch Davis like abilities to find diamonds in the rough. It's pretty scary to think what he'll accomplish at Texas.

Saban, on the other hand, has nearly 70 kids on his roster who were 4/5 stars in high school. A trained monkey could coach that team to the national title. They have hundreds of people who all they do all day long is call and mail recruits.

Cutcliffe seems to win without much talent at all. Strong finds diamonds in the rough, Cutcliffe wins with garbage. Two different means to the same end I guess.

That said, Louisville would have absolutely destroyed Duke last year.

 

[RattlerCane]

My on schedule rankings (competition)
1- FSU
2- Louisville
3- VT
4t- Nebraska
4t- Duke
6- Ga Tech
7- UNC
8- Pitt
9- Cincy
10- Va
11- Arkansas St
12- FAMU

 

[CanesFan93]

My on schedule rankings (competition)
1- FSU
2- Louisville
3- VT
4t- Nebraska
4t- Duke
6- Ga Tech
7- UNC
8- Pitt
9- Cincy
10- Va
11- Arkansas St
12- FAMU

You thin VT is better than Nebraska?

At least you're not overrating UNC like everyone else. Still don't see the hype.

 

[RattlerCane]

My on schedule rankings (competition)
1- FSU
2- Louisville
3- VT
4t- Nebraska
4t- Duke
6- Ga Tech
7- UNC
8- Pitt
9- Cincy
10- Va
11- Arkansas St
12- FAMU

You thin VT is better than Nebraska?

At least you're not overrating UNC like everyone else. Still don't see the hype.

Nebraska hasn't had a meaningful team in a while to me and VT is going to always bring in a pretty good squad. Head to head yes I think VT would beat Nebraska today. After reading up on Nebraska they are thinking that we are going to walk the dog on them this year and they really aren't too excited with their squad this year.

 

[Bigtip]

We have the hardest schedule in ACC play.

gettin the excuse machine fired up already

 

[CyberCane]

"Number of players drafted" needs to be further broken down by projected round. You can have 5 players drafted in the first two rounds vs 7 players drafted in rounds 4-6…who has more "talent"?

It's a good rough estimate of the level of talent on each team, especially since at this point it's too early to tell who will be drafted where, and it's much easier to guess who will be drafted at all.

No, it's not at all. Thus, my post. The fact that you've literally just re-stated your position doesn't change a thing.

 

[OldManCane]

"Number of players drafted" needs to be further broken down by projected round. You can have 5 players drafted in the first two rounds vs 7 players drafted in rounds 4-6…who has more "talent"?

It's a good rough estimate of the level of talent on each team, especially since at this point it's too early to tell who will be drafted where, and it's much easier to guess who will be drafted at all.

No, it's not at all. Thus, my post. The fact that you've literally just re-stated your position doesn't change a thing.

Alright then go ahead and do the breakdown and get back to us when you're finished.

 

[CyberCane]

Just saw a mock draft where fsu has 9 guys projected in the first two rounds. We have 1, it's assuming no Duke, so call it 2 real world.

9 > 2

There isn't any amount of guys we could have drafted thereafter that would give us equal or even close to equal talent levels.

 

[OldManCane]

Just saw a mock draft where fsu has 9 guys projected in the first two rounds. We have 1, it's assuming no Duke, so call it 2 real world.

9 > 2

There isn't any amount of guys we could have drafted thereafter that would give us equal or even close to equal talent levels.

I would agree that FSU are more talented than UM right now by a pretty wide margin. What about the rest of the teams on our schedule?

 

[CyberCane]

Just saw a mock draft where fsu has 9 guys projected in the first two rounds. We have 1, it's assuming no Duke, so call it 2 real world.

9 > 2

There isn't any amount of guys we could have drafted thereafter that would give us equal or even close to equal talent levels.

I would agree that FSU are more talented than UM right now by a pretty wide margin. What about the rest of the teams on our schedule?

I wouldn't say there is another team on our schedule that is more talented than us. With that said, I believe that our talent level right now is pretty close to the VT's and Nebraska's when looking at the team as a whole. However, I'd be curious to see how we compare at key positions: QB, OL, DT, DE
You get a real difference maker at QB and DT, that can cause a 3-4 win swing in your season. The fact that we are loaded with tons of talent at WR or DB doesn't really mean a whole lot. They are great complimentary pieces, but Stacey Coley with Gray Crow throwing to him is a completely different guy than if a stud is tossing it. On the flip side, a really talented QB can make a 3* WR look much better than reality. Perfect example is a guy like JJ Worton at UCF (via passes from Bortles).

 

[CyberCane]

^^^When talking about key positions…I mean who is actually going to see the field, not true freshmen and third string guys.

 

[rok]

FSU loses 10 starters. They can be beaten.

Freeman
Wilder
Abram
Benjamin
Shaw
Stork
Jernigan
McAllister
McDaniels
Jones
Demps
Hicks
Smith
Joyner
Brooks