Quinn Ewers NIL Deal

[SayWhat]

If you think you're better off getting a big lump sum of money at 18, never seeing money like that again in your life then I don't think you have much experience with situations like that. There's a reason 70% of lottery winners file for bankruptcy, and they aren't a bunch of 18 year olds.

Here's an excerpt from an article on lottery winners:

Lottery winners are more likely to declare bankruptcy within three to five years than the average American. What’s more, studies have shown that winning the lottery does not necessarily make you happier or healthier.

“Evidence shows that most people who make it to the top one percent of income earners usually don’t stay at the top for very long,” writes The Washington Post’s Jonnelle Marte.

Economist Jay L. Zagorsky agrees with the research. He writes for U.S. News and World Report: “Studies found that instead of getting people out of financial trouble, winning the lottery got people into more trouble, since bankruptcy rates soared for lottery winners three to five years after winning.”

Jack Whittaker, who won $315 million in a lottery in West Virginia in 2002, tells Time, “I wish that we had torn the ticket up.” Since winning, Whittaker’s daughter and granddaughter died due to drug overdoses.

Just eight months after winning, he was robbed of $545,000. “I just don’t like Jack Whittaker. I don’t like the hard heart I’ve got,” he said. “I don’t like what I’ve become.”

“He’s the last person I would have prototyped for going completely crazy but he did,” Don McNay, a financial consultant to lottery winners and the author of “Life Lessons from the Lottery,” tells Time about Whittaker. “No question it was because he won the lottery.”

McNay says many winners struggle with suicide, depression and divorce. “It’s the curse of the lottery because it made their lives worse instead of improving them,” he says.

Sad story on him and his family, but the lottery wasn't at fault. I'd take my chances, then again I don't throw my money at something with such a low chance of winning. Generally, it's a poor man or woman's game.

 

[Rellyrell]

The fact that people here can't comprehend that these blue blood with bigger fandom then we do with more boosters, fans who attend/watch games CONSISTENTLY, alum and have nothing else in town but college football is comical.

I don't know how anyone thought this would help us. We barely have people who attend games or donate money but we suddenly think people are willing to throw down giant checks to sponsor players? Especially when we've been this bad for this long? Yikes. We wouldn't be complaining about bags in recruiting if that were the case.

THANK YOU! Lol

 

[SayWhat]

I think u all get Big City confused w/ NIL monetary value. U think Houston is getting big NIL deals? What about GT? How about The Zona Wildcats? San Diego St? The two are not equivalent & have very little to do w/ each other.

First of all, Miami is not even in the top 30 as far as largest cities in The U.S, nor is it in the top 15 media markets. Actually Columbus, OH has a bigger populous than Miami by almost 2 to 1.

The NIL is going to based upon

1. Marketability/Profile
2. School Prestige

The only way our players r truly going to benefit from The NIL is when we start taking care of biz, other than that, we’ll be seeing a slew of smaller end deals. Yes, Miami has a ton of billionaires & mega millionaires, but most are transplants & if they do follow us, it’s on a casual basis.

Schools like OU, Michigan, OSU, Bama…basically schools that are practically their Pro Teams, as well…they live & die for these teams.

Bro, we just got an athletic table during the Golden yrs, and an IPF during Richt’s tenure…and both were a struggle to get.

All of that.

I said from day one on here that this would help the bigs more than us. It sure seems that's the way its going to go.

That would be a lot of money to turn down for anyone. I'm sure it isn't all upfront, there's stipulations to it, etc.

What a mess this will all turn into though. Imagine if they sit him for a few years. Imagine the pressure some of these coaches in various places will be under with power people with money saying I've spent this on this kid, get him on the field.

****, college football used to be about pride and if you're good enough, a chance at making it to the next level. You can still do that, but now recruits will see these massive deals at only a dozen or so places and want to be next.

****, we're in it on Stewart, but that's gotta make him think. It's crazy man.

 

[Rellyrell]

All of that.

I said from day one on here that this would help the bigs more than us. It sure seems that's the way its going to go.

That would be a lot of money to turn down for anyone. I'm sure it isn't all upfront, there's stipulations to it, etc.

What a mess this will all turn into though. Imagine if they sit him for a few years. Imagine the pressure some of these coaches in various places will be under with power people with money saying I've spent this on this kid, get him on the field.

****, college football used to be about pride and if you're good enough, a chance at making it to the next level. You can still do that, but now recruits will see these massive deals at only a dozen or so places and want to be next.

****, we're in it on Stewart, but that's gotta make him think. It's crazy man.

Man, it’s because the NCAA was so busy trying to fight this, instead of actually evolving. There could’ve been some set parameters to mitigate any inequities. This chit is a mess, and these agents, along w/ bagmen r going to take full advantage of this.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Example: Saban is recruiting the next Tua. Word goes out to the hundreds of thousands of faithful that they need to move 50k Tua t-shirts at $20ea. That's $1MM. And that's easy money to raise.

I don't know that UM could pull that off. (I'm hopeful we'll have a different, but also lucrative NIL path to offer.)

Exellent point, very plausible scenario.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Most kids will be in trouble with the IRS for taxes I bet.
However on the flip side this is a business education that no class can teach

Within a year ot two, we'll see an article...

"The darkside of NIL, a cautionary tale..."

 

[pacusmc]

Lol; bro, the institution matters my guy.

So I was talking to my cousin who’s a former NBAPA lawyer. He’s all around this situation. We talked about how schools like OSU, Alabama (who he hates more than anyone I know), Clemson, OU, etc. their players r going to be the biggest benefactors b/c of exposure & brands/agents want to be associated w/ that. The player & the school = NIL magnitude.

This is his circle, bro. When I spoke out on this, I wasn’t being a Debbie Downer; I was spitting regurgitated info + common sense. Yeah Quinn would’ve got a nice NIL deal, regardless, but don’t think for one sec, this lil jit wasn’t going to go to a school to best magnify his exposure when this came down. Why not skip school when u striking a 7 figure deal?

I understand. But the companies that want to sign kids are gonna be loyal to their bottom line. These marketing companies that run in these circles that you talk about that only want to sign with certain schools are eventually going to break ranks if a player that they want isn’t going to go to those schools.
Remember this is a marketing company and we don’t know what the contract language is going to be with his players. We don’t know what’s going to happen after they leave college if they’re still going to have ties to these marketing companies or not.
So in essence refusing to sign a player because he doesn’t go to your school you could potentially be losing money. These companies have investors and investors and investors don’t give a flying Frenchman’s fck about where a player signs.
Right now this nil is a premature baby and we’re all freaking out about 1.4 million attached to a dude that’s been to few practices despite none of us knowing about any stipulations, guarantees, potential forfeitures or breaches of that contract.
And we’re also talking about qb’s that seem to be signing the biggest deals.
Marketing companies love qb’s.

Also, what if a player that balls out at a school that isn’t in the club? What if some freshman qb starts breaking records like Lemar Jackson? You think that marketing company or whatever big time nil isn’t gonna sign Lemar Jackson cause he’s in Louisville?

Not disagreeing with what your saying because agree that it is the current situation. But in a few months things will change once these players start making plays and getting noticed. These big nil deals are going to want to go after other players. The first day of the draft had 64 players and not all of them go to the frontrunners and someone is going to want to grab in early the same way the local handlers start “relationships” with per wee kids.
Right now they’re going after low hanging fruit in the 5 stars. But it’s going to change.

 

[pacusmc]

Within a year ot two, we'll see an article...

"The darkside of NIL, a cautionary tale..."

I said a few posts ago that this is in the early stages. There are going to be lawsuits.
If Some kid’s deal gets pulled cause he doesn’t pan out after buys a house and nice ride he’s gonna get a lawyer.

The opposite can also be true. If some kid signs a small deal and then he starts getting day 1 draft projections he’s going to want more money.

 

[tcgrad1014]

Example: Saban is recruiting the next Tua. Word goes out to the hundreds of thousands of faithful that they need to move 50k Tua t-shirts at $20ea. That's $1MM. And that's easy money to raise.

I don't know that UM could pull that off. (I'm hopeful we'll have a different, but also lucrative NIL path to offer.)

You don't know if UM could pull it off? We have some piker South Florida guy making headlines giving a $500 a month stipend. Reminds me of Nevin Shapiro paying for FPL bills and Benihana dinners. Gives new meaning to the expression "amateur hour."

 

[gacaneaddict]

I also saw where Drew Rosenhaus is representing former 5 star South Florida DE Dallas Turner at Alabama.

 

[S.CarolinaCane]

Perhaps there is a chance for all of those Bishop Sycamore All-Stars to sign deals like this too...........................

The story about this school is one of the craziest things I have ever seen!

 

[Tru C]

This in no way is bad for the kids. Get a free ride, make a million. Even if you end up a bust, you can change your major, you can become a grad assistant, a coach, become a teacher, firefighter, police officer, etc etc, from Marcus Forston to Jacory Harris, we have seen examples of this. To begin a life like that as an everyday worker and perhaps not have a mortgage because you can buy a home outright and a rental property and a nice car is a great opportunity and start in life in your early 20’s, that ANY parent would love for their kid.

 

[Canes2082]

This in no way is bad for the kids. Get a free ride, make a million. Even if you end up a bust, you can change your major, you can become a grad assistant, a coach, become a teacher, firefighter, police officer, etc etc, from Marcus Forston to Jacory Harris, we have seen examples of this. To begin a life like that as an everyday worker and perhaps not have a mortgage because you can buy a home outright and a rental property and a nice car is a great opportunity and start in life in your early 20’s, that ANY parent would love for their kid.

Add Darrell Langham to that... hes currently becoming a Firefighter.

 

[DeanCane]

I think u all get Big City confused w/ NIL monetary value. U think Houston is getting big NIL deals? What about GT? How about The Zona Wildcats? San Diego St? The two are not equivalent & have very little to do w/ each other.

First of all, Miami is not even in the top 30 as far as largest cities in The U.S, nor is it in the top 15 media markets. Actually Columbus, OH has a bigger populous than Miami by almost 2 to 1.

The NIL is going to based upon

1. Marketability/Profile
2. School Prestige

The only way our players r truly going to benefit from The NIL is when we start taking care of biz, other than that, we’ll be seeing a slew of smaller end deals. Yes, Miami has a ton of billionaires & mega millionaires, but most are transplants & if they do follow us, it’s on a casual basis.

Schools like OU, Michigan, OSU, Bama…basically schools that are practically their Pro Teams, as well…they live & die for these teams.

Bro, we just got an athletic table during the Golden yrs, and an IPF during Richt’s tenure…and both were a struggle to get.

You are wrong on Columbus have a bigger market then Miami... Please check the receipt below

DMA Name	2020	2021	Change	No. Homes 2020	No. Homes 2021
New York	1	1	0	6,824,120	7,452,620
Los Angeles	2	2	0	5,145,350	5,735,230
Chicago	3	3	0	3,256,400	3,471,560
Philadelphia	4	4	0	2,758,330	2,997,360
Dallas-Ft. Worth	5	5	0	2,563,320	2,962,520
San Francisco-Oak-San Jose	6	6	0	2,364,740	2,653,270
Atlanta	10	7	3	2,269,270	2,648,970
Houston	8	8	0	2,330,180	2,569,900
Washington, DC (Hagrstwn)	7	9	-2	2,351,930	2,565,580
Boston (Manchester)	9	10	-1	2,302,680	2,489,620
Phoenix (Prescott)	11	11	0	1,879,780	2,158,240
Seattle-Tacoma	13	12	1	1,764,680	2,098,800
Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota)	12	13	-1	1,800,600	2,035,250
Minneapolis-St. Paul	15	14	1	1,697,370	1,887,390
Detroit	14	15	-1	1,737,170	1,862,620
Denver	17	16	1	1,532,320	1,798,440
Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn	18	17	1	1,492,640	1,731,360
Miami-Ft. Lauderdale	16	18	-2	1,642,220	1,693,450
Cleveland-Akron (Canton)	19	19	0	1,366,110	1,511,970
Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto	20	20	0	1,317,500	1,459,260
Portland,OR	22	21	1	1,112,500	1,315,470
Charlotte	21	22	-1	1,125,970	1,290,660
St. Louis	23	23	0	1,099,590	1,239,210
Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle)	27	24	3	1,025,320	1,237,230
Indianapolis	25	25	0	1,053,830	1,182,500
Pittsburgh	24	26	-2	1,079,900	1,166,130
San Diego	29	27	2	981,650	1,132,300
Baltimore	26	28	-2	1,039,490	1,129,830
Nashville	28	29	-1	983,180	1,102,340
Salt Lake City	30	30	0	952,470	1,100,260
San Antonio	31	31	0	916,970	1,031,180
Hartford & New Haven	33	32	1	885,890	1,002,710
Columbus, OH	34	33	1	877,490	999,300
Kansas City	32	34	-2	896,850	986,160
Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And	38	35	3	787,930	940,000
Cincinnati	37	36	1	828,250	925,900
Milwaukee	35	37	-2	837,300	921,920
Austin	40	38	2	736,770	912,400
West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce	36	39	-3	828,980	87

 

[Miami[]_[]Smoke]

Very true, but this is one kid, and he's a generational QB prospect. Not every kid is getting $1.4M. Not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying this is VERY MUCH the exception and not the norm.

Also, let's see how it plays out. This is all brand new. Your worth is what someone decides to pay you. Right now, someone thinks investing $1.4M in this kid is worth it from a business standpoint. In 3-4 years, that might be comically high or comically low. And the market will adjust. We'll see.

Generational? The last generational talent in college football just got drafted by the jags

 

[Rellyrell]

You are wrong on Columbus have a bigger market then Miami... Please check the receipt below

DMA Name	2020	2021	Change	No. Homes 2020	No. Homes 2021
New York	1	1	0	6,824,120	7,452,620
Los Angeles	2	2	0	5,145,350	5,735,230
Chicago	3	3	0	3,256,400	3,471,560
Philadelphia	4	4	0	2,758,330	2,997,360
Dallas-Ft. Worth	5	5	0	2,563,320	2,962,520
San Francisco-Oak-San Jose	6	6	0	2,364,740	2,653,270
Atlanta	10	7	3	2,269,270	2,648,970
Houston	8	8	0	2,330,180	2,569,900
Washington, DC (Hagrstwn)	7	9	-2	2,351,930	2,565,580
Boston (Manchester)	9	10	-1	2,302,680	2,489,620
Phoenix (Prescott)	11	11	0	1,879,780	2,158,240
Seattle-Tacoma	13	12	1	1,764,680	2,098,800
Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota)	12	13	-1	1,800,600	2,035,250
Minneapolis-St. Paul	15	14	1	1,697,370	1,887,390
Detroit	14	15	-1	1,737,170	1,862,620
Denver	17	16	1	1,532,320	1,798,440
Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn	18	17	1	1,492,640	1,731,360
Miami-Ft. Lauderdale	16	18	-2	1,642,220	1,693,450
Cleveland-Akron (Canton)	19	19	0	1,366,110	1,511,970
Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto	20	20	0	1,317,500	1,459,260
Portland,OR	22	21	1	1,112,500	1,315,470
Charlotte	21	22	-1	1,125,970	1,290,660
St. Louis	23	23	0	1,099,590	1,239,210
Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle)	27	24	3	1,025,320	1,237,230
Indianapolis	25	25	0	1,053,830	1,182,500
Pittsburgh	24	26	-2	1,079,900	1,166,130
San Diego	29	27	2	981,650	1,132,300
Baltimore	26	28	-2	1,039,490	1,129,830
Nashville	28	29	-1	983,180	1,102,340
Salt Lake City	30	30	0	952,470	1,100,260
San Antonio	31	31	0	916,970	1,031,180
Hartford & New Haven	33	32	1	885,890	1,002,710
Columbus, OH	34	33	1	877,490	999,300
Kansas City	32	34	-2	896,850	986,160
Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And	38	35	3	787,930	940,000
Cincinnati	37	36	1	828,250	925,900
Milwaukee	35	37	-2	837,300	921,920
Austin	40	38	2	736,770	912,400
West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce	36	39	-3	828,980	87

Uhhh, reading is fundamental. I didn’t say chit about Columbus having a bigger “media market” than Miami. I said it has a bigger POPULOUS than Miami. I said Miami is not even in the top 15 in the media market, which this data just proved. Thank you.

Miami, FL has a population of 442k, the city of Columbus, OH has 909k.
The media market for Miami is including two different counties & it’s still not in the top 15 in media.

 

[Zbrod95]

So for those who don’t know…That’s a 90,000 dollar diesel truck. Completely tax deductible btw. He’s 17. I drove a 10 year old version of this truck( 2003 6.7 ) at 17 back in 2012-13 and now that I own a couple businesses I bought the Ram Truck equivalent to this. Granted I make over 400,000 dollars a year now at 26.

The fact he’s driving a truck that took me years of working my *** off to own at 17 is insane.

 

[dycane]

He’s probably going to go to class a lot

 

[RVACane]

Uhhh, reading is fundamental. I didn’t say chit about Columbus having a bigger “media market” than Miami. I said it has a bigger POPULOUS than Miami. I said Miami is not even in the top 15 in the media market, which this data just proved. Thank you.

Miami, FL has a population of 442k, the city of Columbus, OH has 909k.
The media market for Miami is including two different counties & it’s still not in the top 15 in media.

I think you’ve gotta look at the population of Miami-Dade County (not even counting Broward) vs the immediate Metro Columbus Area. That’s a fairer comparison. People in Miami Beach and South Miami see themselves as part of Miami area like people in Westerville claim Columbus, West Hollywood to LA….

 

[Rellyrell]

I think you’ve gotta look at the population of Miami-Dade County (not even counting Broward) vs the immediate Metro Columbus Area. That’s a fairer comparison. People in Miami Beach and South Miami see themselves as part of Miami area like people in Westerville claim Columbus, West Hollywood to LA….

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That’s fair; but let’s be real…probably 40% of that population r diehard Canes fans, vs. 100% Columbus Oh being OSU fans. Lol.