Question Regarding Richt and Running Backs

[TedHendricksOffspring]

We've all discussed how Richt has had big brushing running backs the last couple years with guys like Marshall, Gurley, and Chubb. We've also discussed how the athletic director was apparently/allegedly micromanaging Richt and making him play a particular style and brand of, "Georgia football," that was dependent on that type of runner.

So my question for the board is do we expect Richt to continue to emphasize the big running back or do we think that was a product of what he was being told to do by the administration and Richt will instead go for a more speedy shifty (Miami style) running back?

 

[The Franchise]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

 

[sfowler06]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Exactly. I dont know why people automatically think Gus will start just because he's a "big back".

 

[Zbrod95]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

he had Warrick Dunn and Travis Minor at FSU who were do it all backs. He went to Georgia and had Musa Smith, Thomas Brown, Danny Ware, Knowshon Moreno, Isaiah Crowell, Greg Marshal, Todd Gurley, Nick Chubb, and Sony Michel which btw 8 out of 11 played or play in the NFL and another 2 will. So based off backs that he had I think he doesn't care as long as they can do it all because the one thing they all did was that they were all do it all backs

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

 

[MIATL]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

I don't think he makes a choice ... He'd take them both.

He took Chubb and Michel in the same class at UGA, so I think he'll do the same at Miami.

 

[blackvern]

Thomas Brown was quoted as saying he only uses 2 running backs he doesn't believe in packages for different running backs

 

[The Franchise]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

Richt is going to go after the best RBs. Often times, the best RBs happen to be big strong dudes who can also run very fast (Chubb, Gurley, Dalvin Cook).

Guys are reading too much into Richt preferring big RBs. He's not looking for big, plodding guys. Richt prefers great RBs, and the truly elite RBs are usually big and strong guys who can run fast.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

I don't think he makes a choice ... He'd take them both.

He took Chubb and Michel in the same class at UGA, so I think he'll do the same at Miami.

Then I guess my follow up question is does that kind of fully dispel the argument that the AD at Georgia micromanaged him? If it's reported that the AD told him what style of football to play but he recruited and played a varying style, isn't the theory regarding the AD false then?

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Appreciate the helpful responses.

 

[MIATL]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

I don't think he makes a choice ... He'd take them both.

He took Chubb and Michel in the same class at UGA, so I think he'll do the same at Miami.

Then I guess my follow up question is does that kind of fully dispel the argument that the AD at Georgia micromanaged him? If it's reported that the AD told him what style of football to play but he recruited and played a varying style, isn't the theory regarding the AD false then?

I've heard the president meddled, but I'm going from the opinion of UGA fans. Some Miami fans think Shalala meddled with our program, so if you think that's possible, then why wouldn't it be possible at UGA?

I think the question of if "someone" was meddling with CMR will be answered by the tempo of the Miami, not by who Richt recruits or recruited at UGA.

IMO, UGA was fairly conservative on offense for most of Richt's time there. And they certainly didn't push tempo while he was there.

So, to me, if he's still not pushing tempo at Miami ... Then we're likely getting the same CMR from UGA. If he does push tempo at Miami, probably validates that he was advised to do what he did with the UGA offense.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

I don't think he makes a choice ... He'd take them both.

He took Chubb and Michel in the same class at UGA, so I think he'll do the same at Miami.

Then I guess my follow up question is does that kind of fully dispel the argument that the AD at Georgia micromanaged him? If it's reported that the AD told him what style of football to play but he recruited and played a varying style, isn't the theory regarding the AD false then?

I've heard the president meddled, but I'm going from the opinion of UGA fans. Some Miami fans think Shalala meddled with our program, so if you think that's possible, then why wouldn't it be possible at UGA?

I think the question of if "someone" was meddling with CMR will be answered by the tempo of the Miami, not by who Richt recruits or recruited at UGA.

IMO, UGA was fairly conservative on offense for most of Richt's time there. And they certainly didn't push tempo while he was there.

So, to me, if he's still not pushing tempo at Miami ... Then we're likely getting the same CMR from UGA. If he does push tempo at Miami, probably validates that he was advised to do what he did with the UGA offense.

Shalala's meddling was related to who was allowed in to the program, not on schematic interference like the AD was accused of. Richt got who he wanted into Georgia.

I'd ask the fans who saw it but was there a clear change in tempo in 2007/2008 when the new AD arrived from what Richt ran his first few years there?

 

[MIATL]

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

I don't think he makes a choice ... He'd take them both.

He took Chubb and Michel in the same class at UGA, so I think he'll do the same at Miami.

Then I guess my follow up question is does that kind of fully dispel the argument that the AD at Georgia micromanaged him? If it's reported that the AD told him what style of football to play but he recruited and played a varying style, isn't the theory regarding the AD false then?

I've heard the president meddled, but I'm going from the opinion of UGA fans. Some Miami fans think Shalala meddled with our program, so if you think that's possible, then why wouldn't it be possible at UGA?

I think the question of if "someone" was meddling with CMR will be answered by the tempo of the Miami, not by who Richt recruits or recruited at UGA.

IMO, UGA was fairly conservative on offense for most of Richt's time there. And they certainly didn't push tempo while he was there.

So, to me, if he's still not pushing tempo at Miami ... Then we're likely getting the same CMR from UGA. If he does push tempo at Miami, probably validates that he was advised to do what he did with the UGA offense.

Shalala's meddling was related to who was allowed in to the program, not on schematic interference like the AD was accused of. Richt got who he wanted into Georgia.

I'd ask the fans who saw it but was there a clear change in tempo in 2007/2008 when the new AD arrived from what Richt ran his first few years there?

From what I understand from UGA fans, it wasn't the AD ... It was the President (Michael Adams) and big money boosters who were directing Richt on what to do with the offense to stay in line with UGA tradition.

Vince Dooley was the AD who hired Richt ... But Dooley didn't want to fire Jim Donnan, and was made to do so ... So that should tell you how much clout the AD actually had at UGA.

 

[MIATL]

The new AD at UGA may have been more forceful with Richt regarding what he wanted than Dooley was, so maybe the AD angle has been played up in recent years. And it sure seems like he/they is/are getting what he/they wants from hiring Kirby Smart. I expect that offense to look very similar to traditional Bama (not Kiffin coached) and the current Arkansas offense.

And from what I read about the UGA coaching search ... Though getting Smart was a foregone conclusion ... It's also been noted that UGA had no interest in Tom Herman because of the offense he runs.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Watching Richt's FSU offense - whoa. It was an offensive circus.

Watching Richt's UGA offense the last decade was like watching paint dry.

 

[mirvin88]

I don't think he makes a choice ... He'd take them both.

He took Chubb and Michel in the same class at UGA, so I think he'll do the same at Miami.

Then I guess my follow up question is does that kind of fully dispel the argument that the AD at Georgia micromanaged him? If it's reported that the AD told him what style of football to play but he recruited and played a varying style, isn't the theory regarding the AD false then?

I've heard the president meddled, but I'm going from the opinion of UGA fans. Some Miami fans think Shalala meddled with our program, so if you think that's possible, then why wouldn't it be possible at UGA?

I think the question of if "someone" was meddling with CMR will be answered by the tempo of the Miami, not by who Richt recruits or recruited at UGA.

IMO, UGA was fairly conservative on offense for most of Richt's time there. And they certainly didn't push tempo while he was there.

So, to me, if he's still not pushing tempo at Miami ... Then we're likely getting the same CMR from UGA. If he does push tempo at Miami, probably validates that he was advised to do what he did with the UGA offense.

Shalala's meddling was related to who was allowed in to the program, not on schematic interference like the AD was accused of. Richt got who he wanted into Georgia.

I'd ask the fans who saw it but was there a clear change in tempo in 2007/2008 when the new AD arrived from what Richt ran his first few years there?

From what I understand from UGA fans, it wasn't the AD ... It was the President (Michael Adams) and big money boosters who were directing Richt on what to do with the offense to stay in line with UGA tradition.

Vince Dooley was the AD who hired Richt ... But Dooley didn't want to fire Jim Donnan, and was made to do so ... So that should tell you how much clout the AD actually had at UGA.

Richts already been quoted saying he tried to run tempo when he got to UGA but the SEC let's the d get set anyway so it's worthless.

In my opinion Richts been burnt out at UGA but he'd never leave on his own because he's a loyal stand up guy. He chose UGA because he thought he could retire there.

It's also pretty obvious something was going on behind the scenes from his comments on wanting to get back to being hands on with the offense and QBs.

Nobody goes from running that FSU offense to what UGA ran just because they feel like it.

 

[SoCalPete73]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

Richt is going to go after the best RBs. Often times, the best RBs happen to be big strong dudes who can also run very fast (Chubb, Gurley, Dalvin Cook).

Guys are reading too much into Richt preferring big RBs. He's not looking for big, plodding guys. Richt prefers great RBs, and the truly elite RBs are usually big and strong guys who can run fast.

Exactly. And why do we think that it's "Miami style" to have smaller/shiftier RBs. Magahee, Gore, Lewis, 1 of the 2 we signed the year Bush went to USC was a bigger back, even E. James wasn't a smaller back...none of those guys are small/shifty RBs.

 

[Gregbrick]

What I took from MR's comments was UGA made him hire an OC and they wanted MR to play the CEO role. Mark wants to run his own O and call his own plays. He called plays at UGA when he first got there. They probably thought he would be able to take it to a higher level having him as just a HC instead of OC and HC. It was a bad move on UGA's part.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

My feeling is that Richt will play the best RBs he has on the roster. I doubt that he has any set formula aside from finding the guy who can gain the most yards. The guys you mentioned (aside from Marshall who wasn't a bruiser) just happened to be strong dudes.

Anyone in the world would have signed Chubb and Gurley and used the **** out of them. That's not a "Richt likes big backs" thing as much as it's a "those 2 guys are awesome" thing.

Richt will use the best guys on the roster but as the roster is built more in the way he wants, does he shift his style of recruiting the position?

I get what you're saying obviously that you recruit the guy who gets the most yards but every coach has a preference in style with what they want in the position like Saban and Les Miles like their giants. Given the choice, does Richt focus on a Nick Chubb or a Dalvin Cook to fit how he prefers his offense?

Richt is going to go after the best RBs. Often times, the best RBs happen to be big strong dudes who can also run very fast (Chubb, Gurley, Dalvin Cook).

Guys are reading too much into Richt preferring big RBs. He's not looking for big, plodding guys. Richt prefers great RBs, and the truly elite RBs are usually big and strong guys who can run fast.

Exactly. And why do we think that it's "Miami style" to have smaller/shiftier RBs. Magahee, Gore, Lewis, 1 of the 2 we signed the year Bush went to USC was a bigger back, even E. James wasn't a smaller back...none of those guys are small/shifty RBs.

None of them are three yards and a cloud of dust either which by comparison was what I was trying to say.

 

[SoCalPete73]

That makes sense...