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Burns is a very gifted hurdler and has the best national time as a HS sophomore and as junior. That says a lot. It is very possible that he continues his upwards trajectory as a college and possibly pro hurdler.
 
I was a former player and track athlete at Hampton University, my coach let me do track, i jus had to follow the weight lifting regimen for football, i dont kno how they do it at Miami tho
 
He could make the trials, maybe even make the national final I would be surprised if he took one of the three spots to represent the USA at the Olympics in 2016.

If he were a citizen of any other country he would make it to the Olympics probably, but the USA are outstanding at this event and will usually send three guys to the Olympics who are capable of running the event under 13 secs. I dont think any other country on Earth can do that.

Plus hurdles are VERY technical, preparing for the draft while practicing for the trials.....real tuff to get one of those three spots in the most competative country for that event.

Demps is a good example.

He ran 10.01 in HS and did not improve while in college because of his football commitment. Think about it this way, Demps was faster than Yohan Blake 4 years ago, the same Yohan Blake of Jamaica who took the silver medal behind Bolt in the 100m and 200m in last years Olympics.

Blake focused on track and improved, as did many other guys Demps was faster than....Demps has not progressed, football held him back.
 
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Burns' beat time in the 110m is in the mid 13s.

World's best hurdlers run in the low 13s. World record is 12.9 range.

He has the talent to do it. His times are Bennie blades esque (who was invited to the Olympic trials as a sr in HS, iirc).
 
Eastfan said:
He could make the trials, maybe even make the national final I would be surprised if he took one of the three spots to represent the USA at the Olympics in 2016.

If he were a citizen of any other country he would make it to the Olympics probably, but the USA are outstanding at this event and will usually send three guys to the Olympics who are capable of running the event under 13 secs. I dont think any other country on Earth can do that.

Plus hurdles are VERY technical, preparing for the draft while practicing for the trials.....real tuff to get one of those three spots in the most competative country for that event.

Demps is a good example.

He ran 10.01 in HS and did not improve while in college because of his football commitment. Think about it this way, Demps was faster than Yohan Blake 4 years ago, the same Yohan Blake of Jamaica who took the silver medal behind Bolt in the 100m and 200m in last years Olympics.

Blake focused on track and improved, as did many other guys Demps was faster than....Demps has not progressed, football held him back.
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Demps ran faster than 10 in college even though it was wind aided. IMO, Demps maxed out because of his size. It was extremely impressive to accomplish what he did at 5'6", 5'7".
 
Tree31 said:
I was a former player and track athlete at Hampton University, my coach let me do track, i jus had to follow the weight lifting regimen for football, i dont kno how they do it at Miami tho
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I believe that weight management will be the most difficult part of this equation. As a safety he may be required to put on more weight. Running track, you dont want to get too heavy even if it is muscle. Ato Bolden would train some hs athletes that I know and that would be one of the biggest things he would harp on during track season.
 
AUcane said:
Burns' beat time in the 110m is in the mid 13s.

World's best hurdlers run in the low 13s. World record is 12.9 range.

He has the talent to do it. His times are Bennie blades esque (who was invited to the Olympic trials as a sr in HS, iirc).
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That's interesting. I never could figure out how fast Bennie really was. He was big and could hit, and was supposedly an outstanding 400 meter guy in HS. I do remember him trying to catch a Tennessee guy in the 1986 Sugar Bowl and he didn't seem to make up any ground, which I would have expected him to do if he was that exceptionally fast. Maybe being a 400 guy is not like being a sprinter when it comes to the football field.

A guy I knew who ran track back then told me Bennie was not a hard worker at track. I guess he was all football.
 
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TheMatador said:
AUcane said:
Burns' beat time in the 110m is in the mid 13s.

World's best hurdlers run in the low 13s. World record is 12.9 range.

He has the talent to do it. His times are Bennie blades esque (who was invited to the Olympic trials as a sr in HS, iirc).
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That's interesting. I never could figure out how fast Bennie really was. He was big and could hit, and was supposedly an outstanding 400 meter guy in HS. I do remember him trying to catch a Tennessee guy in the 1986 Sugar Bowl and he didn't seem to make up any ground, which I would have expected him to do if he was that exceptionally fast. Maybe being a 400 guy is not like being a sprinter when it comes to the football field.

A guy I knew who ran track back then told me Bennie was not a hard worker at track. I guess he was all football.
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Matador: Bennie was a 300m hurdler, iirc and as a HS senior, had the fastest time or a high schooler iirc. I'll try to dig up some info on it.
 
Eastfan said:
He could make the trials, maybe even make the national final I would be surprised if he took one of the three spots to represent the USA at the Olympics in 2016.

If he were a citizen of any other country he would make it to the Olympics probably, but the USA are outstanding at this event and will usually send three guys to the Olympics who are capable of running the event under 13 secs. I dont think any other country on Earth can do that.

Plus hurdles are VERY technical, preparing for the draft while practicing for the trials.....real tuff to get one of those three spots in the most competative country for that event.
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Exactly. That race is stacked. You have to be ultra special to make it out of the trials. Merritt and Richardson are dominant hurdlers and young enough to be back in 2016. David Oliver is another story. He wasn't 100% in 2012 and failed to make the team. That meant the third spot on the American team -- Porter -- was lesser caliber than it could have been. Not proven, lets put it that way. Porter was a surprise. Oliver will be past his peak in 2016.

I'm not saying 13.3 isn't excellent for that age but a ton of 13.3 guys never drop significantly lower than that, if any lower. These days you need to be sub 13.1 to make the American team and you better be sub 13 at your best to contend for an Olympic medal. The US Olympic trials is often a deeper field than the Olympic final.
 
Demps ran faster than 10 in college even though it was wind aided. IMO, Demps maxed out because of his size. It was extremely impressive to accomplish what he did at 5'6", 5'7".
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U cant max out at 18. We are all men here so we should all be able to draw from personal experience. We naturally get faster and stronger after 18.

Demps worked on football, lifting for bulk instead of speed, ******** with his mechanics, not working on his starts and his angles to generate force and speed the way a 100m needs to. Takes years to get it right and u cant get slammed by Lbers year in year out and expect to get faster, nevermind the small impact injuries that pile up that RBs pick up.

His 10.01 as a teen was an indication of his potential. If he went straight track I would expect him to be capable of 10.8 high at least possibly 10.8 low by the age of 22.

Exactly what Blake did, who he was faster than at 18. Blake progressed each year, 10 low, 9.9, 9.8 and this year 9.7 at the Olympics.

I dont wrong Demps, he went for the money that the NFL provides which is superior for the most part than track.

Although I think maybe Blake makes more money than Demps at this point but if Demps were to become a Percy Harvin type he probably makes more than Blake per year.

Demps had huge potential, as have many other NFL fast guys, NFL just offers more money so it's always gonna attract the vast majority of Americas elite sprinters.
 
Demps maxed out because of his size (height) regardless of football. He would have never ran below a 9.9 even if he stayed in track exclusively.
 
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valid said:
Demps ran 10.01 in the 100m.....while in high school. That was a world junior record IIRC. He was just a freak and an obvious outlier.
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Houston McTear from Baker FL. ran a 9.0 100 yards his junior year in high school which was faster than Jacksonville's Bob Hayes world record of 9.1. Two stop watches had 8.9 and one had 9.0.

McTear also ran a 10.14 100 meters back in 1975. Was the Florida state record until Demps broke it. McTear qualified for the Olympics but tore his hamstring during the Olympic trials in 1976.
A lot of fast sprinters coming out of Florida.
 
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