Proposed House settlement and NIL

[Da Jumbo Mutombo]

Tuberville can try but the Supreme Court has been very clear any arbitrary caps on Name Image and Likeness will not fly. Justice Kavanaugh already dressed them down pretty bad.

I mean think of it this way, would you be in favor of a government agency acting as a clearinghouse determining what your Name Image and Likeness are worth? That is un-American as it gets. No way Justices like Kavanaugh, Thomas, or Roberts even entertain those arguments.

What gonna happen is revenue sharing is gonna happen in addition to NIL. The schools who care will remain the same, the schools who don’t will remain the same but gap will grow between them.

Maybe there's a fine line between capping how much NIL a player can earn, and how much NIL a school can use.

Same concept as a salary cap, so it's possible. But it probably has to do with how schools/players are classified vs how pro teams/pro athletes are classified.

 

[Ispyin]

SEC already said it’s not going above 85 scholarships for next year at least. So sec would be 85 scholarships and 20 walkons max

 

[CDWright40]

It appears as though the proposed House v NCAA settlement will go into effect for the 25-26 season.

- Football rosters will be limited to 105 as well as scholarships increasing to as many as 105 if fully funded.
- Athletic departments will have approx $20.5M to pay to student athletes
- Name Image and Likeness (NIL) will likely have some guardrails to avoid pay-for-play

The vast majority of the $20.5M will go toward football (probably $15M of the $20.5M).

My question to @DMoney and the insiders is will this be good, bad, or neutral for Miami football?

This has the potential to go back to the $EC cheating with under the table cash again if the NCAA is too strict on the collectives ... everyone will be playing with the same "salary cap" but then Tenn will be back to handing out McDonalds bags.

This is terrible for Miami.

All rules are bad because they will not be equally enforced.

SEC will go back to paying under the table and we will have limits on what we can pay. Level playing field my ***.

 

[NicKane]

I’m still waiting for the dust to settle a bit. The concern is that someone like Tommy Tuberville may be able to push through some legislation favorable to the NCAA and limiting to the players.

Yeah, but at the end of the day Dmoney, anything that is done to limit NIL is against the law. so Tubberville can say whatever he likes but he can’t change the law and if he tries to, it’ll be defeated in court, correct?

 

[KANE]

So everyone, from Bama, Miami to San Jose State, gets the same cap. Then, the playing field is too level so the SEC is allowed to drop bags with no repercussions again.

THIS!!! But I don't think they can cap the NIL part. If Cam Ward's #1 jersey, for example, sells 1,000 more than say Restrepo's jersey , shouldn't he (Ward) get paid more? They can't cap that. IDK how they could even try.

 

[TaylorWalls]

anything that is done to limit NIL is against the law

This isn't entirely true. Schools cannot directly pay an athlete and call it NIL.

 

[DMoney]

Yeah, but at the end of the day Dmoney, anything that is done to limit NIL is against the law. so Tubberville can say whatever he likes but he can’t change the law and if he tries to, it’ll be defeated in court, correct?

The concern is that Congress changes the law. Specifically, granting the NCAA an exemption from antitrust law.

 

[P-Tizzle]

Maybe I’m reading all this wrong, but I don’t see how this is actually bad for Miami. Yes, the schools cannot pay out more than a certain amount for NIL, but the actual player can make more than that through actual NIL deals with companies.

For instance, Miami football athletes can receive up to $20mil from the school, but they can make more $$ by actually signing NIL deals with other businesses. And with what the city of Miami has to offer, our athletes have potential to make a lot more than athletes at other universities.

 

[ssvir]

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For someone that practices law, how is that getting pushed through? They are going to start monitoring Livvy Dunne’s money now?

Meanwhile some nerds are making $1M for winning a video game tournament at 13yo

Livvy Dunn will continue to make her money b/c its verifiable NIL .... what is going to cause the $EC bag-man to reappear is that there is no justifiable way someone like Jaden Harris would make $ off legitimate business marketing NIL opportunities.

 

[ssvir]

Tuberville can try but the Supreme Court has been very clear any arbitrary caps on Name Image and Likeness will not fly. Justice Kavanaugh already dressed them down pretty bad.

I mean think of it this way, would you be in favor of a government agency acting as a clearinghouse determining what your Name Image and Likeness are worth? That is un-American as it gets. No way Justices like Kavanaugh, Thomas, or Roberts even entertain those arguments.

What gonna happen is revenue sharing is gonna happen in addition to NIL. The schools who care will remain the same, the schools who don’t will remain the same but gap will grow between them.

Congress can overrule anything the Supreme Court decides with a 2/3 vote

 

[ssvir]

Maybe I’m reading all this wrong, but I don’t see how this is actually bad for Miami. Yes, the schools cannot pay out more than a certain amount for NIL, but the actual player can make more than that through actual NIL deals with companies.

For instance, Miami football athletes can receive up to $20mil from the school, but they can make more $$ by actually signing NIL deals with other businesses. And with what the city of Miami has to offer, our athletes have potential to make a lot more than athletes at other universities.

We will never be at the big disadvantage we were at before but a middle LB isn't getting any meaningful true NIL so the $EC will exploit that by handing out under the table cash.

 

[NicKane]

The concern is that Congress changes the law. Specifically, granting the NCAA an exemption from antitrust law.

OK, but I don’t believe that will happen in a million years though. The NCAA is very unlikable across this country and that includes Congress as well. Seeing that the judge already told the NCAA they cannot touch NIL, I would imagine Congress will follow suit on that ruling. Would you agree with that Dmoney?

 

[TheOriginalCane]

That piece of **** said Indiana bought their team.....so ironic coming from him

If these SEC scumbags (or alum scumbags) want to passively-aggressively shame every other school for doing what is NOW legal (accusing them of "buying" teams), then we need to start using the proper vocabulary for SEC schools.

For decades, SEC schools have BRIBED their teams.

I realize Tuberville used to coach at Miami, but I hate him more and more every day. Stupidity and arrogance...that's a bad combination.

 

[bacane]

This stuff will continue to be fluid & regularly tweaked. And yes, likely to favor the SEC going forward.
The 105 scholarship limit seems crazy. Will SEC & Big 10 be able to buy up higher rated players & control talent pool? Why 105?

 

[SPAMM]

Congress can overrule anything the Supreme Court decides with a 2/3 vote

Not a complete answer. Congress can enact a constitutional amendment with a 2/3 vote in both houses which must then be approved by 3/4 of the states. Don't see a NIL amendment. Unless they choose one a couple legal maneuvers that are too long to list here. I am thinking after they balance the budget, solved world hunger and achieve world peace they might move on to football but who knows these days.

 

[dycane]

Congress can overrule anything the Supreme Court decides with a 2/3 vote

No

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

The concern is that Congress changes the law. Specifically, granting the NCAA an exemption from antitrust law.

Have you heard anything about whether or not UM plans to fully fund the 20 whatever million?

I know that in the beginning they're not going to be required to. But it would put them at a disadvantage if they don't.

I mean.. even if they want to fully fund it, can they even afford to right now? That B1G/SEC tv money sure sounds nice right about now.

 

[DMoney]

Have you heard anything about whether or not UM plans to fully fund the 20 whatever million?

I know that in the beginning they're not going to be required to. But it would put them at a disadvantage if they don't.

I mean.. even if they want to fully fund it, can they even afford to right now? That B1G/SEC tv money sure sounds nice right about now.

We would.

 

[The canesman]

Sounds like pay for play to me.