Post-Spring Practice Transfers?

[Supercane85]

How do we catch Florida St and Alabama in terms of talent if we don't manager our roster better. Kendall Thompson was on the roster for 5 years and never made an impact on the team. A player would have two years to show me something that I can put on the field in the future to remain on the roster.

Kendall Thompson made a lot of plays on special teams. People only look at offense or defense but always forget about special teams.

 

[Supercane85]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

 

[datdude81]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

Yea but we would win a **** of a lot more games and that's a fact

 

[Hstokes1447]

Dwayne Hoilett & Corey King

 

[BWCD]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

Yea but we would win a **** of a lot more games and that's a fact

Is it?

What about those guys who are sitting, you don't think that they'd transfer out to a place where they could play/start right away if they're talented and behind someone at Miami?

You don't think there would be any blowback on the coaching staff from your S. Florida talking heads (Luke, Genron, Chad Wilson) for not playing Player A because of some perceived bias?

You don't think that there would be instances in which we would **** off some HS coaches in S. Florida because we're not playing the guy that won them a state title and/or landed them a collegiate coaching gig?

Someone cue up the Training Day "this **** ain't checkers, it's chess" gif, please.

There's a lot more to it than "sign all the top guys and let the rest sort itself out". There's the academic requirements. There's the character issues that some kids (esp. in S. Florida) have. There's the depth chart. There's playing time available. There's the systems we run on both sides of the ball. There's the question of whether or not the kid wants/needs to get away from home. Tons of stuff to take into consideration for each and every kid. This isn't EA Sports NCAA Football recruiting where you find a kid's favorite pitch and just push all your points/time to that pitch.

We might win more games if all we got were THE top Florida kids, but there's a lot of other variables that make your statement far from fact.

 

[Chuckles]

Every year you could count on 3, 4 or 5 guys to transfer because they didn't see much opportunity to see the field here. This year, I don't think such is the case.
My only candidate this year is Gray Crow, but even that (which was once almost a given) seems uncertain with Williams injury.
Whadda ya think?

I think you randomly selected Gray Crow without knowing anything at all about him. But it's okay, that sort of thing is common.

 

[datdude81]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

Yea but we would win a **** of a lot more games and that's a fact

Is it?

What about those guys who are sitting, you don't think that they'd transfer out to a place where they could play/start right away if they're talented and behind someone at Miami?

You don't think there would be any blowback on the coaching staff from your S. Florida talking heads (Luke, Genron, Chad Wilson) for not playing Player A because of some perceived bias?

You don't think that there would be instances in which we would **** off some HS coaches in S. Florida because we're not playing the guy that won them a state title and/or landed them a collegiate coaching gig?

Someone cue up the Training Day "this **** ain't checkers, it's chess" gif, please.

There's a lot more to it than "sign all the top guys and let the rest sort itself out". There's the academic requirements. There's the character issues that some kids (esp. in S. Florida) have. There's the depth chart. There's playing time available. There's the systems we run on both sides of the ball. There's the question of whether or not the kid wants/needs to get away from home. Tons of stuff to take into consideration for each and every kid. This isn't EA Sports NCAA Football recruiting where you find a kid's favorite pitch and just push all your points/time to that pitch.

We might win more games if all we got were THE top Florida kids, but there's a lot of other variables that make your statement far from fact.

What do you think all top notch programs do man

They don't live in fear of having too much talent on the roster. That would be a **** of a problem to have
I think this problem happened to us in the year 2000 WHEN WE WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

I would take a few head cases for a few more wins.

 

[mianjomar]

I always respected Crow. I think this is an intelligent kid who made a decision to play for a school he loved knowing he would probably not start and get a good education and a good college experience. He's given everything he has and I hope he stays and graduates.

 

[NateDogg]

yea crow is one play away from starting......

hard to tell at this juncture..I am not sure when scholly evaluations are up for the players..

 

[hoover437]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

Yea but we would win a **** of a lot more games and that's a fact

How does the scheme work with this statement?

 

[frostycane]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

Yea but we would win a **** of a lot more games and that's a fact

Is it?

What about those guys who are sitting, you don't think that they'd transfer out to a place where they could play/start right away if they're talented and behind someone at Miami?

You don't think there would be any blowback on the coaching staff from your S. Florida talking heads (Luke, Genron, Chad Wilson) for not playing Player A because of some perceived bias?

You don't think that there would be instances in which we would **** off some HS coaches in S. Florida because we're not playing the guy that won them a state title and/or landed them a collegiate coaching gig?

Someone cue up the Training Day "this **** ain't checkers, it's chess" gif, please.

There's a lot more to it than "sign all the top guys and let the rest sort itself out". There's the academic requirements. There's the character issues that some kids (esp. in S. Florida) have. There's the depth chart. There's playing time available. There's the systems we run on both sides of the ball. There's the question of whether or not the kid wants/needs to get away from home. Tons of stuff to take into consideration for each and every kid. This isn't EA Sports NCAA Football recruiting where you find a kid's favorite pitch and just push all your points/time to that pitch.

We might win more games if all we got were THE top Florida kids, but there's a lot of other variables that make your statement far from fact.

What do you think all top notch programs do man

They don't live in fear of having too much talent on the roster. That would be a **** of a problem to have
I think this problem happened to us in the year 2000 WHEN WE WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

I would take a few head cases for a few more wins.

Totally off base, there was no TWITTER, facebook etc back then. The social media has completely changed the game of recruiting and roster management. There was a **** good reason we did not offer Treon until the last minute. If we got him and did not do everything in out power to give him the best chance possible in his dads eyes, there would have been back lash. We are not FSU, or Alabama, we can't operate like them. We can win like them, but we can never run our program like those bottomless pocketed soul less, programs. We have to have things like pride, respect, unity, etc. We are a small private school that competes at the national level. And we are one of the few.

Then you take into account the AAU style travel teams in the spring and that has changed the recruiting game ten fold as well. Now the handlers, coaches, etc have access to these players and they do not have to abide by the NCAA rules. Then you take into account the RS years where he was very much out of touch with that kind of thing, though he totally fell victim to playing the local guys to keep people happy and that came back to bite him in the form of entitled players. You may win a couple of games in one season but that kind of mentality will not carry THIS program for a long period of time.

This is the number one reason I am hoping AG figures it out, he seems to have a LONG term plan to make this program great. I think, now that the PSU drama and the cloud are behind him, AG has the chance to make this program great for a long period of time, I think he will put a blueprint in place for success for decades. Some where along the lines between Coker and RS we lost that blue print. I don't know if it was player development, the drive to be better than everyone else, the SWAGGER, what but we definitely lost it. And only in the last year have I felt like I am even beginning to see it in this program again.

I understand the guys that doubt our coaches, I understand the shortcomings at DT, I really do. But you cannot deny that we have had the best access to the program that we have ever had, we have a level of transparency with the team that is great as a fan. We are seeing some improvements. We are seeing the talent level rise to the level we like to see at UM. I am an open homer of my team, I supported RS till he got fired and I will do the same with this staff. I reserve the ability to question moves, but I also recognize a good play call that either A: a player misses a tackle or B: The other team just makes a great play call that beats yours, or C: Someone drops the ball...

 

[frostycane]

Ohh and to get back on the topic, I think we may get a couple of big guys to transfer in, but no one will transfer out. The only guys that might have transferred out are at positions of need, DT, QB. I think there may be some dead weight there but they are needed so the staff will push to keep them. But I suppose Hoilett might go too, not sure whats up with him.....I recall some insider comment about him a couple of years back where the staff felt like he was a 3 and done kid, after his RS yr. That he might just blow up, tons of talent and potential... Maybe he stopped working hard? I dont know but he has disappeared on the depth chart and I do not recall even seeing him in a cam report video...

Obviously, we need Crow and I think we will keep De. Johnson as a walk on. As for specialists, I thought we had that kid from UF coming in at Punter and I thought we got that Alex Semerene kid as a preferred walk on at Kicker. That kid looked pretty good, and he should provide some pressure for Goudis to step his game up.

 

[Consigliere]

http://espn.go.com/college-football...uarterback-matt-joeckel-transfer-texas-aggies

Matt Joeckel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tunKeaeUqcE

 

[TheMatador]

Ghost2, With our present roster management, we are going to need to hire the better high school coaches (hopefully former canes) in the S. Florida area to help in recruiting. we can get their top players for years to come. It's the only way we catch up in terms of talent.

Even if you got every single top player in the state of Florida someone is not going to play.

Yea but we would win a **** of a lot more games and that's a fact

Is it?

What about those guys who are sitting, you don't think that they'd transfer out to a place where they could play/start right away if they're talented and behind someone at Miami?

You don't think there would be any blowback on the coaching staff from your S. Florida talking heads (Luke, Genron, Chad Wilson) for not playing Player A because of some perceived bias?

You don't think that there would be instances in which we would **** off some HS coaches in S. Florida because we're not playing the guy that won them a state title and/or landed them a collegiate coaching gig?

Someone cue up the Training Day "this **** ain't checkers, it's chess" gif, please.

There's a lot more to it than "sign all the top guys and let the rest sort itself out". There's the academic requirements. There's the character issues that some kids (esp. in S. Florida) have. There's the depth chart. There's playing time available. There's the systems we run on both sides of the ball. There's the question of whether or not the kid wants/needs to get away from home. Tons of stuff to take into consideration for each and every kid. This isn't EA Sports NCAA Football recruiting where you find a kid's favorite pitch and just push all your points/time to that pitch.

We might win more games if all we got were THE top Florida kids, but there's a lot of other variables that make your statement far from fact.

We need more characters. Mike Irvin was a character. So were Jerome Brown and Warren Sapp. Randall Hill used to do that little dance after every catch, it was either a James Brown or Sherman Hemsley, I don't know which. One time he celebrated after a short catch and infuriated Deon Sanders.

The good old days. Bring in some more characters!