Post-Spring and Summer Workouts/Conditioning

[RiDLer80]

What are the expectations/goals for players during this non-contact period? Is this a time to gain more weight, get stronger, keep conditioned, study more, etc.?

I'm assuming different players have different regiments/goals individually. For example, maybe guys like McCord and Hoilett are expected to add more weight whereas guys like Henderson and Porter are expected to keep weight off and stay in shape.

This is a just me thinking out loud about a couple players. But I was wondering if anybody had any insight as to what Golden and staff expects from players.

 

[mirvin88]

'roids

 

[weownfsu]

Get stronger.

 

[Trilla]

Still don't know how Uncle Swasey has a job. He needs to get these boys right by August. Lots of time to grow

 

[DeadPoets]

Still don't know how Uncle Swasey has a job. He needs to get these boys right by August. Lots of time to grow

This. Eventually we'll need to bring in a real S&C coach and let Swasey work his speed and agility magic.
But lord knows we need another Moffit/Cochron type. No coincidence Bama & LSU run CFB - they have freak athletes with superb S&C programs.

 

[Heals85]

The goals for each player are specific to what Golden and Swasey want. For instance Seantrel is all about conditioning and maintaining or increasing strength where he can while keeping his weight where it is. Dobard for example Golden said he wants him to get to 260 so he needs to eat and get bigger.

Everything in an S&C program is player and position specific and as far as people wanting Swasey gone you all need to realize Swasey gets his directions from the head coach. Shannon told Swasey he wanted conditioning a top priority so they ran all the time hence 215lbs lbs. Golden on the other hand wants his guys to be the ideal weight with conditioning hence the introduction of mandatory breakfast and a nutritional staff and a large emphasis on lifting. All the pro bowlers work out with Swasey by choice when they could work with anybody in the world because he is great at what he does.

 

[frostycane]

'roids

In large doses!

 

[DeadPoets]

Denzel Perryman and maybe a few others are the only ones who look the part. When he is going to start sharing that ish?

 

[canadianhurricane]

Still don't know how Uncle Swasey has a job. He needs to get these boys right by August. Lots of time to grow

This. Eventually we'll need to bring in a real S&C coach and let Swasey work his speed and agility magic.
But lord knows we need another Moffit/Cochron type. No coincidence Bama & LSU run CFB - they have freak athletes with superb S&C programs.

I would love for UM to get a strength coach and leave conditioning to swasey, which is his forte.

Usually the players have 'voluntary' workouts for the players who decide to stay for the summer. With all the position battles, I'd expect a lot of guys to stay!

 

[Heals85]

For all of you saying fire Swasey you dont know what you are talking about. I am an NSCA certified strength and conditioning specialist and NASM performance enhancement specialist and in the S&C community Swasey is highly respected. All this crap about they dont look the part or they are not in shape dont even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

 

[Picksix]

'roids

In large doses!

Along with Deer Antler...

 

[Trilla]

For all of you saying fire Swasey you dont know what you are talking about. I am an NSCA certified strength and conditioning specialist and NASM performance enhancement specialist and in the S&C community Swasey is highly respected. All this crap about they dont look the part or they are not in shape dont even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

are team is filled with a bunch of toothpicks.. wtf are you talking about? we have very few guys that look like a major D1 football player. DP and EJ are 2 who look the part. go look at bama or any other big time program. We look like a JV team out there. Aside from all the coaching changes we had since butch--- name the common trend. Moffit is who started this thing in 96/97 and left at 2000 or 2001 i forget. the second Swasey took over and kids were on his program 3-4 years we lost a lot of size and strength. People say "swasey gets his orders from HC" He has been incompetent since butch left. Why? bc he is a sociology teacher not a S&C coach! this is year 3 of swaseys "plan" under AG. so far we have seen little results. For christ sake take a look at some B12 and SEC schools and look what they put on the field on gameday, then look at our team

 

[Trilla]

Swasey would have been fired, but bc he runs every team strength program--we couldnt pull the trigger. We also dont have the money to grab a high profile strength guy. We couldnt hold onto Cristobol for 2 months

 

[Heals85]

For all of you saying fire Swasey you dont know what you are talking about. I am an NSCA certified strength and conditioning specialist and NASM performance enhancement specialist and in the S&C community Swasey is highly respected. All this crap about they dont look the part or they are not in shape dont even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

are team is filled with a bunch of toothpicks.. wtf are you talking about? we have very few guys that look like a major D1 football player. DP and EJ are 2 who look the part. go look at bama or any other big time program. We look like a JV team out there. Aside from all the coaching changes we had since butch--- name the common trend. Moffit is who started this thing in 96/97 and left at 2000 or 2001 i forget. the second Swasey took over and kids were on his program 3-4 years we lost a lot of size and strength. People say "swasey gets his orders from HC" He has been incompetent since butch left. Why? bc he is a sociology teacher not a S&C coach! this is year 3 of swaseys "plan" under AG. so far we have seen little results. For christ sake take a look at some B12 and SEC schools and look what they put on the field on gameday, then look at our team

Stop speaking you do not know what you are saying. Schools dont appoint sociology teachers to be head S&C coaches for the entire athletic department. I swear this is like talking to elementary schoolers about physics. So genius what is it that he is doing wrong since you are so well versed in the details and programming of strenth and conditioning what should we be doing? Is this because you saw the segment on S&C at Alabama and the screaming and yelling from Cochron. Just because you read mens health and belong to a gym doesnt mean you know anything stop for your own sake.

 

[DeadPoets]

For all of you saying fire Swasey you dont know what you are talking about. I am an NSCA certified strength and conditioning specialist and NASM performance enhancement specialist and in the S&C community Swasey is highly respected. All this crap about they dont look the part or they are not in shape dont even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

are team is filled with a bunch of toothpicks.. wtf are you talking about? we have very few guys that look like a major D1 football player. DP and EJ are 2 who look the part. go look at bama or any other big time program. We look like a JV team out there. Aside from all the coaching changes we had since butch--- name the common trend. Moffit is who started this thing in 96/97 and left at 2000 or 2001 i forget. the second Swasey took over and kids were on his program 3-4 years we lost a lot of size and strength. People say "swasey gets his orders from HC" He has been incompetent since butch left. Why? bc he is a sociology teacher not a S&C coach! this is year 3 of swaseys "plan" under AG. so far we have seen little results. For christ sake take a look at some B12 and SEC schools and look what they put on the field on gameday, then look at our team

Stop speaking you do not know what you are saying. Schools dont appoint sociology teachers to be head S&C coaches for the entire athletic department. I swear this is like talking to elementary schoolers about physics. So genius what is it that he is doing wrong since you are so well versed in the details and programming of strenth and conditioning what should we be doing? Is this because you saw the segment on S&C at Alabama and the screaming and yelling from Cochron. Just because you read mens health and belong to a gym doesnt mean you know anything stop for your own sake.

I'm NASM certified, have a degree in Exercise & Sports Science, & was a strength coach for a Juco bball team in Texas for 2 years.
But you don't need any of that experience or schooling to see that we aren't up to snuff in the S&C portion of our program and haven't been for years.

Does some of that fall on Shannon? Absolutely.
But in the same way we call for the hiring of new asst or head coaches to get some "new blood" around here - maybe that's what our strength program needs.

We're behind most SEC schools in this category.
If we decide to keep Swasey I just hope we bring in more help and commit even more $$$ to S&C.

 

[Heals85]

It is always good to have more assistants in any aspect because they bring in new ideas and methods. Every S&C coach or trainer has a unique style and some more assistants would be helpful. It is just aggrevating when people have such a lack of respect for a guy that is anything but a slouch at his job. He started as co-head S&C coach in 2000 and took over in 2001 he knows what it takes to win. People seem to want to blame Swasey for all the failings of our team on the field.

 

[DeadPoets]

It is always good to have more assistants in any aspect because they bring in new ideas and methods. Every S&C coach or trainer has a unique style and some more assistants would be helpful. It is just aggrevating when people have such a lack of respect for a guy that is anything but a slouch at his job. He started as co-head S&C coach in 2000 and took over in 2001 he knows what it takes to win. People seem to want to blame Swasey for all the failings of our team on the field.

D'Onofrio has caught much more flack than Swasey so not sure I agree with your point there.
I'm just tired of watching LSU take the same kids we do and turn them into animals (with our former S&C coach nonetheless).

 

[Trilla]

For all of you saying fire Swasey you dont know what you are talking about. I am an NSCA certified strength and conditioning specialist and NASM performance enhancement specialist and in the S&C community Swasey is highly respected. All this crap about they dont look the part or they are not in shape dont even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

are team is filled with a bunch of toothpicks.. wtf are you talking about? we have very few guys that look like a major D1 football player. DP and EJ are 2 who look the part. go look at bama or any other big time program. We look like a JV team out there. Aside from all the coaching changes we had since butch--- name the common trend. Moffit is who started this thing in 96/97 and left at 2000 or 2001 i forget. the second Swasey took over and kids were on his program 3-4 years we lost a lot of size and strength. People say "swasey gets his orders from HC" He has been incompetent since butch left. Why? bc he is a sociology teacher not a S&C coach! this is year 3 of swaseys "plan" under AG. so far we have seen little results. For christ sake take a look at some B12 and SEC schools and look what they put on the field on gameday, then look at our team

Stop speaking you do not know what you are saying. Schools dont appoint sociology teachers to be head S&C coaches for the entire athletic department. I swear this is like talking to elementary schoolers about physics. So genius what is it that he is doing wrong since you are so well versed in the details and programming of strenth and conditioning what should we be doing? Is this because you saw the segment on S&C at Alabama and the screaming and yelling from Cochron. Just because you read mens health and belong to a gym doesnt mean you know anything stop for your own sake.

Go look at swasey's resume. proof is in the pudding my friend. We have been way behind in the S&C for a decade!! wake the **** up and smell the coffee! Have you seen us get pushed around by the likes of everyone we played last year and before that.

I dont read mens health either jackass. I played ball and ran track in college. I had a legit S&C coach and he turned frail kids into monsters! Ive seen first hand what a real deal strength coach does.

 

[Trilla]

It is always good to have more assistants in any aspect because they bring in new ideas and methods. Every S&C coach or trainer has a unique style and some more assistants would be helpful. It is just aggrevating when people have such a lack of respect for a guy that is anything but a slouch at his job. He started as co-head S&C coach in 2000 and took over in 2001 he knows what it takes to win. People seem to want to blame Swasey for all the failings of our team on the field.

D'Onofrio has caught much more flack than Swasey so not sure I agree with your point there.
I'm just tired of watching LSU take the same kids we do and turn them into animals (with our former S&C coach nonetheless).

Lack of respect? the dude has not been doing his job. point blank

2001 started the decline. Butch's players and almost every player who trained under Moffit only had a few years left in the program. Go back and watch the coker and shannon years bro..we were the softest Miami bunch in sometime. We have gotten smacked around physically since 04

 

[bomb]

For all of you saying fire Swasey you dont know what you are talking about. I am an NSCA certified strength and conditioning specialist and NASM performance enhancement specialist and in the S&C community Swasey is highly respected. All this crap about they dont look the part or they are not in shape dont even realize how utterly ridiculous you sound.

Amen. Amazing how many people have an uneducated opinion on the subject.