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chipcane said:
Really hard not to throw Carter and McCloud (playing out of necessity) in the same bucket with Pope and Wiggins.
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First, Carter and McCloud are very tough and physical. Second, while I don't know much about Pope/Wiggins off the field, I know that Carter and McCloud are A+ character guys with a ton of intelligence. And lastly, Carter has actually made plays here. He has 128 career tackles and 4 sacks.
 
CanesNation26 said:
DE depth seems alright to me. It looks like we have 4 dudes that are pretty interchangeable. The problem is that none of them are really that good.
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I agree if all 4 stay healthy we should be ok. 1 injury and we’re in big trouble. 3 of the 4 have very little experience if any.
 
DMoney said:
Now that camp is done, it's a good time for a breakdown of where each position stands. This is based on things I've seen with my own eyes and things I’ve heard from multiple sources.

QB- Most important thing first: D’Eriq King looks 100%. You don’t know for sure until live pressure, but the average person watching practice would have no idea he got hurt. If anything, he looks faster due to weight loss. The battle between Tyler Van Dyke and Jake Garcia should go through next year. Different people within the program have different preferences. TVD has NFL physical tools and does everything the coaches ask him to do. He will execute the offense as drawn and performed well in the second scrimmage. He may be even better in live contact due to his strong legs and ability to handle tacklers. Garcia is the more natural passer. He spreads the ball, has a quicker release and is deadly accurate. He was also better in the first scrimmage. Both guys appear good enough to play right now and, aside from Dorsey and Kaaya, are miles beyond our other QBs this millennium at the Greentree stage. This position is a strength of the team.

RB- The top two guys for Bama should be Cam Harris and Don Chaney. Everyone looked good at the second scrimmage, including Chaney and Jaylan Knighton breaking long runs. Knighton is much improved from a mediocre spring and should factor in as the year goes on. Cody Brown is ahead of Thad Franklin, largely due to reliability. Brown showed up in good shape and plays like a bigger Travis Homer. He had several pancakes as a pass blocker and has excellent contact balance. Franklin is a 1K talent but showed up out of shape and missed the second scrimmage due to injury. Overall, this is another strong position.

WR- No change at the top from spring- the top guys are Mike Harley (by far), Charleston Rambo, Keyshawn Smith and Xavier Restrepo. Harley is devastating in the slot due to his combination of vertical speed and quickness. Rambo needs to catch the ball more consistently. Smith made a big play in the second scrimmage and has the best releases on the team. He also needs a bit more consistency and understanding of the position. He's the best overall athlete, though. Restrepo makes plays every day and is a favorite target of all three QBs. He is quick and smart like the best slot receivers, but also brings added YAC value due to his RB build.

Mike Redding needs consistent availability. The three freshmen receivers were the story of both scrimmages and will all play. Jacolby George is the most natural receiver in terms of changing speeds, tracking the ball and winning at the LOS. His big hands and long arms allow him to play bigger than he looks. Romello Brinson is long, fast and tough. He made plays in both scrimmages. Brashard Smith is the most dynamic after the catch and brings a YAC element we lacked last year. He may play the most early due to his versatility as a runner and receiver. Mark Pope and Dee Wiggins could be odd men out with the emergence of the young guys. They may still play due to the nature of our offense, but their inconsistencies remain. While this position still lacks an alpha, #1 X-receiver, it is much improved from a talent standpoint.

TE- There are two impact talents at this position: Will Mallory and Elijah Arroyo. The key for Mallory is just staying healthy after various injuries. Arroyo looks and runs like Mallory, but is already bigger and more physical. He is going to be a big part of this year’s team. The other TEs are more limited and are well behind the top two. Larry Hodges and Khalil Brantley are similar H-back type players. Dom Mammarelli is still working his way back from injury.

OL- Much improved. Biggest difference is at guard. You have Navaughn Donaldson (6’6, 350) and Jalen Rivers (6’5, 325) replacing Jakai Clark (6’3, 305) and Delone Scaife (6’3, 306). Corey Gaynor has athletic limitations but the coaches consider him one of our top 2 linemen going into the season. As Coach Justice noted, he tried to do other peoples’ jobs for them last year. He will be much better alongside the big boys. Zion Nelson should be good to go for Bama. Scaife and Jarrid Williams have been holding down the tackles and both should play at RT.

Depth is not as good following injuries to Clark and John Campbell, who had a really nice spring. Justice Oluwason is working tackle and guard and, while on the shorter side, looks like a good athlete. The backups beyond him are more questionable. Laurance Seymore has gotten the most second-team reps at C and should be a good one with more development. Ousman Troure, Zalontae Hillary and Kai-Leon Herbert have age but haven’t distinguished themselves. Ryan Rodriguez is a likely redshirt, needs more strength. Should be a good technical guard in the future. Michael McLaughlin needs a lot of work, the injury in spring set him back. He has the size. Chris Washington needs more weight. Isaiah Walker is the most talented athlete of the group but the focus with him is health. Cleveland Reed is not game-ready.

DT- This is the most underrated position on the team. The key here is Jess Simpson. Multiple coaches have said he is the best coach on the staff, and those who worked with in 2018 rave about his results. Jon Ford (6’5, 315) and Jordan Miller (6’4, 320) are in the best shape of their lives and have seven years of experience between them. They look like SEC linemen and should contribute to improvement against the run. Nesta Silvera needs to focus on using his hands and staying disciplined within an already aggressive upfield scheme. Jared Harrison-Hunte is a perfect scheme fit with surprising strength. Remember, Jess Simpson recruited him.

Leonard Taylor is as advertised. He made big plays in both scrimmages and most practices. Think a bigger, stronger, better version of Gerald Willis being coached by Simpson. Elijah Roberts is still on the lighter side but is too athletic and instinctual to keep off the field. He consistently makes plays. I like him getting snaps at DE over the course of the year. Allan Haye has good football instincts and has also made plays. Solid rotational talent in the future, although his upside is below Taylor, JHH or Roberts.

DE- I’m worried here, moreso for the Alabama game than the ACC schedule. We need a little more length and size. DeAndre Johnson is probably the top guy and can make plays in the backfield. Zach McCloud is a better DE than LB due to his effort and not having to read/react. Jahfari Harvey is also more OLB/DE size but is very good at redirecting to the QB and making plays during chaos and DL games. All three are below our DEs last year but capable of making ACC sacks in this defense.

Chantz Williams brings the best combination of size, effort, strength and speed. He’s not that coordinated or flexible, which hurts him on the straight pass rush. I suspect the positives will outweigh the negatives. He’s also good at getting in passing lanes (Ben Wallace-type HS basketball player). Thomas Davis makes plays when healthy, despite his height. Jabari Ishmael is likely redshirt. Upside remains high due to length, he can disrupt plays almost by accident.

LB- The weak spot of the team. The best chance for a true impact player is Keontra Smith. We’ve been calling for the position switch for a while, and he has flourished immediately. Verified 4.55 speed and plays fast. Good instincts in the box and made a lot of plays in both scrimmages. Corey Flagg had an excellent second scrimmage and looks like the starter at MLB. He's a solid option for now despite physical limitations. Sam Brooks can jump in the rotation as he gets healthier from his toe surgery. Very physically developed and elite athletic tools when healthy. Waynmon Steed is a solid veteran. The key for him is continuing to regain his pre-injury athleticism. Bradley Jennings is the same guy he was, some physicality but limited. Avery Huff lost some of the momentum he had in spring. Still about the mental game with him. Tirek Austin-Cave made some strides with the MLB move before getting nicked up. He is back and a guy with potential to move up the depth chart. Deshawn Troutman is a true LB but small. Tyler Johnson is still getting acclimated. Both seem like redshirt candidates.

Striker- Maybe the best position on the defense. Don’t be surprised to see multiple “striker-bodies” on the field at once. NFL scouts thought Gil Frierson was one of our best players last year. He has lost some excess weight from spring and should be a major contributor. Amari Carter has been a revelation at striker. Playing closer to the ball has highlighted his strengths (play recognition, physicality) while limiting some of his weaknesses (long-speed, tightness). Some people think he is our best striker. Chase Smith looks like a future first round pick- length, frame, speed, instincts, striking ability. I believe we should move him to LB. He can make a Keontra-like impact there and give us two true talents at a need position.

Safety- Another good position. Bubba Bolden and Gurvan Hall are locked in and playing well under TRob. One of our new staff members believes Hall is as physically talented as any safety he’s ever been around. Kamren Kinchens has been an INT machine in camp and is a favorite of the staff. His intangibles are elite. Brian Balom is almost physically identical to Kinchens and should be a solid rotation guy. James Williams is too special not to see the field somewhere. I can see him getting used how Amari Carter was used early in his career, especially as a blitzer. He is capable of playing safety but is best closer to the ball. Safety highlights some of his weaknesses with long-speed and breaking down for open-field tackles at 6’5. In total, he has a good attitude and can do a lot of different things. Keyshawn Washington looks like a backup type, a more talented Knowles.

Cornerback- We have a very good top three and then some question marks. Tyrique Stevenson is built like a LB and hits like one. He’s also athletic enough to return punts. There are some foot quickness issues against smaller receivers, but he is a baller with aggression. DJ Ivey is the most talented cover guy on the team and the most dominant practice corner since spring. TRob has publically and privately compared his skillset to Jaycee Horn. The ifs—and they are big ones—are his ability to confidently play the ball and tackle in games. Te’Cory Couch is a competitor with surprising length and a lot of life in his feet. Ideal nickel corner. Al Blades is still working his way back. In my unprofessional opinion, he should focus on getting leaner/quicker as opposed to stronger.

Isaiah Dunson is aggressive in run support and has some ball skills. Questions with him are strength and speed. Marcus Clarke flashes but needs to be more consistent mentally and as a tackler. Jalen Harrell fits better at striker in terms of size and speed, IMO. Malik Curtis missed the beginning of camp due to family issues, but can run and made some nice open field tackles in the scrimmages.

Kicker- Andre Borregales looks like the real deal. Different body type than his brother (more of a soccer player build) but same strength and accuracy.

Overall, we are a similar team to last year with some key improvements. First, our OL is more experienced across the board and bigger inside. Second, we added some stud defensive coaches (Simpson, TRob, Shoop) with big-league experience. Third, we are better at the skill positions with high-level overall speed. Fourth, this freshman class looks like the real deal and should contribute heavily over the course of the year. Finally, we are one of the oldest and most experienced teams in the nation.

There are really two schedules- the Bama game and everything else. If we can perform well against Bama, I think this team has what it takes to ride that momentum to real success. We cannot afford a stinker.
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appreciate it @DMoney

outside KING/QB play there are two key points for a successful season

1 - OL play (mush improved) Hope no one gets injured - don’t want to see CLEMSON 2020 ever again
2 - DT play and success against the run - much improved and can help the LBs - don’t want to see NC 2020 ever again

Questions

can we find space to have Brashard, Rooster and Restrepo on the field at the same time?
how much different / expanded you see our offense this year with far more weapons? Can we be deadly creative in 2021?

ty
 
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DMoney said:
First, Carter and McCloud are very tough and physical. Second, while I don't know much about Pope/Wiggins off the field, I know that Carter and McCloud are A+ character guys with a ton of intelligence. And lastly, Carter has actually made plays here. He has 128 career tackles and 4 sacks.
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I think Carter can be very good closer to the line. I do worry about how much man coverage he's expected to provide at Striker. McCloud is an enigma to me. I was hoping he could be as good as Trent Harris was for us at DE. But your own observations say he's not at that level. That's disappointing but not totally unexpected.
 
YUMU said:
can we find space to have Brashard, Rooster and Restrepo on the field at the same time?
how much different / expanded you see our offense this year with far more weapons? Can we be deadly creative in 2021?

ty
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Yes to #1.

On #2, the biggest thing will be execution. This is their second year in the offense. More than creativity (which can slow you down sometimes), the strengths of our offense are QB, pace and speed.
 
rok said:
If Harley's best position is in the slot then Restrepo will need to wait his turn.
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Nah, Restrepo isn't a pure slot receiver, much more solid. We were using Harley on the outside last year. There's zero reason X couldn't be used outside the slot, as well. Same with Brashard. I want to see them as utility knives that cause nightmares for DCs because you never know where they'll lineup or what they'll do post snap.
 
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grover said:
Nah, Restrepo isn't a pure slot receiver, much more solid. We were using Harley on the outside last year. There's zero reason X couldn't be used outside the slot, as well. Same with Brashard. I want to see them as utility knives that cause nightmares for DCs because you never know where they'll lineup or what they'll do post snap.
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Waiting for X to line up outside and us to throw fade routes to him...
 
Does D Money still think Miami is in the second echelon of CFB after the Bama’s and OSU’s of the world?
 
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Thanks to DMoney for this well written summary.

Not to toot my own horn, but i predicted that James Williams wouldnt leave Miami playing safety no matter how athletic he was for a big guy. The list of 6'5-6'6 240 lb safeties in college ball is microscopic.

Happy to see strikers stepping up, which will help immensely with LB issues. In most games, there shouldnt be an issue going with a 4-1-6 look, with two striker types on the field together instead of traditional OLBs. We already have like five kids who could fill the striker role, Keontra Smith, James Williams, Chase Smith, Carter, Frierson can all do it. And Harrell is a possibility as well.

I'm big on the Ivey bandwagon. I hate how the fanbase has picked on him, it's disgusting frankly. I hope he has his haters begging for him to come back for a fifth year.

I think Roberts needs to be at end this year. That DE depth chart is scary. I hope Roberts is adaptable enough to contribute at both DE and DT. By the way, what is going on with Quentin Williams?
 
grover said:
Nah, Restrepo isn't a pure slot receiver, much more solid. We were using Harley on the outside last year. There's zero reason X couldn't be used outside the slot, as well. Same with Brashard. I want to see them as utility knives that cause nightmares for DCs because you never know where they'll lineup or what they'll do post snap.
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Additionally, we can run some 10 personnel this year and Restrepo can be on field as well.

There may even be some true spread looks in 00 personnel. Motion Brashard into backfield out of that look as well.

I wouldn’t be surprised with X playing 25% of snaps this year. That’s ~20-25 snaps a game in this offense.
 
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Have any of the young striker types gotten burn as edge rushers on passing downs?

We have big, young ends who should be decent against the run, but if we have any injury problems, putting guys like Carter, Williams, C. Smith on the edge could help us muster a pass rush. With their speed we can disguise our alignments and maybe create confusion on the edge.

We have to be creative and proactive here. Hopefully we get lucky like past years we were short on corners. Get those long athletic kids on the edge and let them get some experience beatings tackles to the quarterback
 
CanesNation26 said:
DE depth seems alright to me. It looks like we have 4 dudes that are pretty interchangeable. The problem is that none of them are really that good.
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We don't know if they are really good, but then we've had the same concerns almost every year. Nobody knew if Phillips could last an entire season nor make the significant jump he made. He flashed at UCLA before he got hurt, but nothing to say this kid was the best high school player in the country. I think we will good enough. I also expect us to set the edge much better under Simpson. Our ends were over committing and at times got murdered on read option.
 
TruCane81 said:
We have big, young ends who should be decent against the run, but if we have any injury problems, putting guys like Carter, Williams, C. Smith on the edge could help us muster a pass rush. With their speed we can disguise our alignments and maybe create confusion on the edge.
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They don't have to come off the edge. The cool thing about those striker types is that they can come from anywhere.
 
Great write up Dmoney! Two questions..

1) We have a legit 5 maybe 6 man DT rotation..do you think it stays that way throughout the year or do you think at some point it goes down to 3 possibly 4 and there is an odd man out? (Ford, Miller, Nesta, JHH, LT, ERoberts)

2) When/If Sam Brooks comes back healthy, is he fighting KSmith for his job or Flagg? (Or both?) I guess I am trying to figure out where his role would be as a starter.

(P.S. - Huff is turning into one of the biggest disappointments in recent memory. The light not coming on for him at this stage has really set the LB room back. 3rd year in the program and still cant even get in the 3 deep on the depth chart??????? Smh)
 
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