Position Insight Cornerback

Great example of what I was talking about before with the new Nickelback prototype, Robenson Therezie:

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Kid's even from Miami (though apparently no offer from the Canes). 5'9, 210, played some RB at Auburn before he settled in to this nickel spot in their 425. This is the kind of kid that NFL teams are going to start caring a lot more about.

Missed out on him during the beginning of the Golden age because of the Randy years and the sanctions looming over. Kid wanted to be a Cane.

Countless ones we missed on back then. Holliman, Therezie, Cash, and Gorman. Reason why we were so depleted at safety in recent years.
 
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Cheers to the OP, good thread with a lot of perspective, thanks to all for sharing.

Agree. The OP started strong with then "**** yourself" line and backed it up with questions that triggered some excellent responses.
Thank you.

Back in the Grassy days Dynasty used to give great insight into football that led to interesting threads - no flaming.
 
Cheers to the OP, good thread with a lot of perspective, thanks to all for sharing.

Agree. The OP started strong with then "**** yourself" line and backed it up with questions that triggered some excellent responses.
Thank you.

Back in the Grassy days Dynasty used to give great insight into football that led to interesting threads - no flaming.

He still does. Once football season starts, I'm sure you'll see more of it. Find some of the most recent in the 3-4 Bill Belichick thread: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/77112-Belichick-shares-benefit-of-3-4-two-gap
 
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Many teams designate Field Corner and Boundry Corner.

Gunter is a classic Boundry corner that plays the short side of the field. They're usually bigger and use the sidelines to their advantage.

Tracy is a Field corner that has more space to cover, but the throws are longer so it takes more time to get there.

The Nickel Back has to be quicker because he can't leverage the sidelines and the receivers have 2 way goes vs him.

Blitzing is usually done by the Boundry corner or the nickel back because the field is too far away.

I think that if we get a better rush this year the DB's will ball out. The practice reports seem to tell me that the fronts are being more diaruptive this year, which is huge for the D.

Great post!

I don't agree that Gunter is a boundary guy. In fact he, along with Burns, are usually to the field in our system. Your best corner plays to the boundary. That means your best cover guy and tackler (if that guy exists).

Many defenses like to take advantage of the widened college hash marks and overload their field side coverages. In quarters coverage, for example, many teams will allow their field side corner play a hard quarter because their Sam/Nickel/SS is in a detached alignment where he can easily cover a Curl/Flat type zone. Some teams will even allow that Sam/Nickel/SS take any outside over 4~ yards man to man.

The Boundary side corner in this situation will still play his soft quarter/read flat/read 2 because the boundary defender covering the curl/flat zone is usually a stacked linebacker [still in the box]. A stacked linebacker needs to be able to make split second run reads, whereas a Sam/Nickel/SS has a couple split seconds longer to really get involved in the run game.

Another effect to consider is the fact that the primary force defender in a quarter scheme is the Boundary Safety. Yes, a deep safety. Essentially, the corner has no real "cover" for a blocker going out to him. To the field, you would have a detached defender that the offense would have to worry about.

While thinking about all of that, you need to consider the effect of a QB throwing to a shorter field.

Check out Tracy playing to the boundary quite a bit:

[video=youtube;HHQtX18zazc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHQtX18zazc[/video]
 
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Many teams designate Field Corner and Boundry Corner.

Gunter is a classic Boundry corner that plays the short side of the field. They're usually bigger and use the sidelines to their advantage.

Tracy is a Field corner that has more space to cover, but the throws are longer so it takes more time to get there.

The Nickel Back has to be quicker because he can't leverage the sidelines and the receivers have 2 way goes vs him.

Blitzing is usually done by the Boundry corner or the nickel back because the field is too far away.

I think that if we get a better rush this year the DB's will ball out. The practice reports seem to tell me that the fronts are being more diaruptive this year, which is huge for the D.

Great post!

For classic Cane examples that mostly everyone can remember (b/c of relative recency), consider the trio of Rumph (6' 2"ish), PBuch (electric) and MFitz (great feet, low center). Now, they were mostly playing a different coverage than what is currently being asked of our guys, but they fit the prototype molds well.

/ they also had an upfield pass rush from guys like Mcdougle, Green, Andrew Williams and even the inside guys.
// superstar LBs in Vilma and DJ who could cover insane ground, as well as underrated guys like Howard Clark and Chris Campbell (RIP)
/// that was fun
 
Thanks, Lu
Cheers to the OP, good thread with a lot of perspective, thanks to all for sharing.

Agree. The OP started strong with then "**** yourself" line and backed it up with questions that triggered some excellent responses.
Thank you.

Back in the Grassy days Dynasty used to give great insight into football that led to interesting threads - no flaming.

He still does. Once football season starts, I'm sure you'll see more of it. Find some of the most recent in the 3-4 Bill Belichick thread: http://www.canesinsight.com/threads/77112-Belichick-shares-benefit-of-3-4-two-gap
 
Cash didn't turn out to be anything special. Missed out on his boy shazier though

Lulz, he was only a sophomore last year and had 13 tackles against us... Also-

-121 total tackles last year.
- All ACC
- Thorpe watch this year.
- #2 rated SS in the draft.
 
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That's a good breakdown. In our defense we had our big, physical corner play press on the Boundry side and take away anything quick inside and carry the WR if he went deep. He would also blitz from a press look in our fire zone scheme.

You're right on the FSU film. Good find.
 
This is the most important post - Avg DBs look very good with strong D-line pressure.
- I am hoping for the best with our d-line however when your best d-line man is a True Frosh that generally doesn't bode well for a great pass rush
 
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