Pic of new Locker Room

[-Blazed-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUOWBPrHd4


what we would do with facilities like this ......:eekeyes:

Win 5 NCs. Oh wait. We did that, and they didn't.

There's a point of diminishing returns in this facilities game. Once you get really good facilities, which is what the Schwartz Center will be, you're all set. You don't need Tony Montana soaking tubs for everyone and douche holders. Some think that the cushy situation at Texas with all their amenities and bells and whistles has helped make that program the soft ****made program it is.

Alabama has great facilities.

 

[LuCane]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUOWBPrHd4


what we would do with facilities like this ......:eekeyes:

Win 5 NCs. Oh wait. We did that, and they didn't.

There's a point of diminishing returns in this facilities game. Once you get really good facilities, which is what the Schwartz Center will be, you're all set. You don't need Tony Montana soaking tubs for everyone and douche holders. Some think that the cushy situation at Texas with all their amenities and bells and whistles has helped make that program the soft ****made program it is.

Alabama has great facilities.

They didn't start winning again because of those facilities.

 

[The Franchise]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUOWBPrHd4


what we would do with facilities like this ......:eekeyes:

Win 5 NCs. Oh wait. We did that, and they didn't.

There's a point of diminishing returns in this facilities game. Once you get really good facilities, which is what the Schwartz Center will be, you're all set. You don't need Tony Montana soaking tubs for everyone and douche holders. Some think that the cushy situation at Texas with all their amenities and bells and whistles has helped make that program the soft ****made program it is.

Alabama has great facilities.

They didn't start winning again because of those facilities.

Correct. Unless you consider Saban a facility.

All major programs have top flight facilities at this point. The differences in facilities between the major programs isn't causing the differences in wins and losses.

 

[eleganttomcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkUOWBPrHd4


what we would do with facilities like this ......:eekeyes:

Win 5 NCs. Oh wait. We did that, and they didn't.

There's a point of diminishing returns in this facilities game. Once you get really good facilities, which is what the Schwartz Center will be, you're all set. You don't need Tony Montana soaking tubs for everyone and douche holders. Some think that the cushy situation at Texas with all their amenities and bells and whistles has helped make that program the soft ****made program it is.

Alabama has great facilities.

They didn't start winning again because of those facilities.

Correct. Unless you consider Saban a facility.

All major programs have top flight facilities at this point. The differences in facilities between the major programs isn't causing the differences in wins and losses.

but couldnt you argue the difference in facilities between major programs is causing some programs to lose certain recruits which obviously leads to losses. with better players choosing a different school largely in part due to facilities/stadium atmosphere obviously having to take less skilled players results in some losses.

i do, however, agree that facilities arent directly causing losses (obviously). hopefully this new facility will really make strides in helping us keep our players home. STADIUM NEXT (haha..)

 

[SevenNSeven]

Agree with many in this thread. You don't have to have the nicest facilities, you just have to have nice ones.

 

[LuCane]

Win 5 NCs. Oh wait. We did that, and they didn't.

There's a point of diminishing returns in this facilities game. Once you get really good facilities, which is what the Schwartz Center will be, you're all set. You don't need Tony Montana soaking tubs for everyone and douche holders. Some think that the cushy situation at Texas with all their amenities and bells and whistles has helped make that program the soft ****made program it is.

Alabama has great facilities.

They didn't start winning again because of those facilities.

Correct. Unless you consider Saban a facility.

All major programs have top flight facilities at this point. The differences in facilities between the major programs isn't causing the differences in wins and losses.

but couldnt you argue the difference in facilities between major programs is causing some programs to lose certain recruits which obviously leads to losses. with better players choosing a different school largely in part due to facilities/stadium atmosphere obviously having to take less skilled players results in some losses.

i do, however, agree that facilities arent directly causing losses (obviously). hopefully this new facility will really make strides in helping us keep our players home. STADIUM NEXT (haha..)

#1. The bolded part is an assumption in some cases and a generalization in other cases. "Largely" indicates that these players are giving enough weight to facilities and "atmosphere" to overwhelm other factors (geography, likelihood of NFL boost, prior emotional connection, etc.) enough to dictate their decisions.

#2. I'll go so far as to say that, if you build a program rooted in kids (so even if it's just a dozen, but they're your "best" or "most talented") that go to a school because of facilities (or, for example, because they think it's an automatic "ticket" into the NFL), you stand a good chance to instill the wrong culture into a program. Football games are often won by the hungriest, the most focused, the most determined and the collection of individuals that overcomes struggle. When you end up with the opposite (e.g. unfocused individuals giving too much weight to either facilities or an "easier" path to the NFL) collection of individuals...

....well, I assume you've watched the results of this program from 2003 onward?

Nice enough facilities + proper mentalities > Astounding facilities + potentially unfocused mentalities. A lot of these kids are very talented. The genes are there. The difference between success and failure often lies in how those talents are expressed by their environments. This program, at its peak, was built on a culture of hunger and competition. Bring me the kids who are inclined to compete, as opposed to those giving too much weight to convenience.

 

[eleganttomcat]

i didnt mean to make it sound like facilities and atmosphere made up where a recruit wants to go to school. that was not even close to my intention. i also was trying to make it seem as if some recruits, some recruits use facilities and college atmosphere as part of the reason they pick a school. with that in mind, read my post over again because it should make some sense. you read it too literally.

edit: also used largely followed by in part to show it was only part of the decision. facilities/atmosphere definitely play a part in recruitment that is undeniable. i wasnt trying to make it seem like that was the entire think because that is obviously not the case.

 

[LuCane]

i didnt mean to make it sound like facilities and atmosphere made up where a recruit wants to go to school. that was not even close to my intention. i also was trying to make it seem as if some recruits, some recruits use facilities and college atmosphere as part of the reason they pick a school. with that in mind, read my post over again because it should make some sense. you read it too literally.

edit: also used largely followed by in part to show it was only part of the decision. facilities/atmosphere definitely play a part in recruitment that is undeniable. i wasnt trying to make it seem like that was the entire think because that is obviously not the case.

I actually wasn't sure what you meant, so I did the #1 and #2 with that in mind.

My point was actually fairly simple: we'll definitely have nice enough facilities that, if we were to lose a recruit to, say, Oregon on the fact they have unbelievable facilities, I'd be ok with it.

Just 12 years ago, we had the most dominant college football roster I've ever seen. At that time, Texas, LSU and a few other schools had incredible facilities and/or other advantages. I guess this new point is that we have something that allows us to get away with "B" (relative to other schools) facilities and even ****** crowds:

We happen to be the top program (with abundant/existing NFL allure) located within 100 miles of some of the freakiest football athletes (and their families) in the entire world.

 

[RBhurricane87]

I thought we were running a college football program, not a day spa.

**** that.

Give me wins.

 

[Consigliere]

Agree with many in this thread. You don't have to have the nicest facilities, you just have to have nice ones.

In general, I think that many of our stupid irrational fans think that we workout in some ancient Jack Lalanne fitness museum (see below).



Our facilities were great when I went to school at UM, they are getting an upgrade too. How many kids are really choosing schools because of the facility?

Maybe to get a kid to go to school at ***ing Alabama or LSU (where the area the school is in sucks and where the education quality also blows) you need to have something else to make it seem like the school isn't such a **** hole.

 

[Consigliere]

i didnt mean to make it sound like facilities and atmosphere made up where a recruit wants to go to school. that was not even close to my intention. i also was trying to make it seem as if some recruits, some recruits use facilities and college atmosphere as part of the reason they pick a school. with that in mind, read my post over again because it should make some sense. you read it too literally.

edit: also used largely followed by in part to show it was only part of the decision. facilities/atmosphere definitely play a part in recruitment that is undeniable. i wasnt trying to make it seem like that was the entire think because that is obviously not the case.

I actually wasn't sure what you meant, so I did the #1 and #2 with that in mind.

My point was actually fairly simple: we'll definitely have nice enough facilities that, if we were to lose a recruit to, say, Oregon on the fact they have unbelievable facilities, I'd be ok with it. Just 12 years ago, we had the most dominant college football roster I've ever seen. At that time, Texas, LSU and a few other schools had incredible facilities and/or other advantages. I guess this new point is that we have something that allows us to get away with "B" (relative to other schools) facilities and even ****ty crowds:

We happen to be the top program (with abundant/existing NFL allure) located within 100 miles of some of the freakiest football athletes (and their families) in the entire world.

I agree. Also, how many kids do we ACTUALLY compete for with Oregon?

 

[The Franchise]

i didnt mean to make it sound like facilities and atmosphere made up where a recruit wants to go to school. that was not even close to my intention. i also was trying to make it seem as if some recruits, some recruits use facilities and college atmosphere as part of the reason they pick a school. with that in mind, read my post over again because it should make some sense. you read it too literally.

edit: also used largely followed by in part to show it was only part of the decision. facilities/atmosphere definitely play a part in recruitment that is undeniable. i wasnt trying to make it seem like that was the entire think because that is obviously not the case.

I actually wasn't sure what you meant, so I did the #1 and #2 with that in mind.

My point was actually fairly simple: we'll definitely have nice enough facilities that, if we were to lose a recruit to, say, Oregon on the fact they have unbelievable facilities, I'd be ok with it.

Just 12 years ago, we had the most dominant college football roster I've ever seen. At that time, Texas, LSU and a few other schools had incredible facilities and/or other advantages. I guess this new point is that we have something that allows us to get away with "B" (relative to other schools) facilities and even ****ty crowds:

We happen to be the top program (with abundant/existing NFL allure) located within 100 miles of some of the freakiest football athletes (and their families) in the entire world.

Good stuff, Lu. If we're losing recruits to universities because they have nicer couches or bigger TVs in the locker room, then those are probably guys we won't win with anyway.

Schwartz Center will be beautiful, and, most importantly, it will be in Coral Gables and not in the middle of nowhere with nothing else going on.

 

[Cane Steve]

We need nice facilities, but we don't need to compete with Oregon or anything like that. They have a **** room where it dialates your eyes for you before you go outside...that **** is not nessecary. Like Chise said about Texas, they got everything and they are *****made...you don't need nothing that's going to lift the weights for you (exageration)

 

[cane305]

facilities aren't just the locker rooms, weight rooms, or stadium.

what about the campus ITSELF? Miami has one of the most beautiful campuses out there as well as hot girls to fill them with.

there is a big *** shiny building almost near completion. athletes won't be in it too often but we can sure as **** wow them with it.

 

[deleted1562]

**** facilities. Gimme these facilities and we're good.

[video=youtube;1SUzcDUERLo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo[/video]

 

[jhtheking]

what did the old locker rooms look like?