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Our Linebackers Not Named Perryman

WhatTheHell said:
D'Onofrio definitely isn't doing them any favors lining them up over wide receivers and keeping all three of them on the field when Wake was going 4 wide.
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He had #11 DE Gilbert standing up in a cb technique covering a WR. I've never seen that.
 
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skyman said:
Chise mentioned it in a post but we are missing those explosive type athletes that we should have. When you look at the guys we trot on field you see it. Atleast we seem to be recruiting and hitting the position hard. With Figs, and the Miramar LB enrolled and Young wit the Jacksonville kid committed we should see a change in a couple seasons. I wish we could say the same for the safety position. Depth is a concern and with 25+ recruits committed we still dont have a headliner at the position,
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The lack of explosive playmakers all over the field is a reflection of the prior regime's incompetence and of the 3 years of sanctions we've been under. Recruiting top dogs while everyone is telling them our program is going to get the death penalty is next to impossible. You'll get a few here and there if you're awesome like The Don is, but you are running that race with rotten plums for feet.

Grace will be a great LB and so will Figs. They just aren't ready yet. It's hard to fault The Don for Eddie Johnson being a selfish disturbed ****.
 
For the people complaining about the scheme, you guys should scrutinize some other teams as closely as you do the Canes, and you'll see a lot of the same ****.

Stanford was routinely covering RBs and slot WRs with LBs in short areas over the middle last night against Oregon State.

The stuff we run is not unique.

I'm not really the type who likes one scheme over another. I just want continuity. If you teach the scheme properly and have the right athletes (and depth), anything can work.
 
CanesAreAble said:
For the people complaining about the scheme, you guys should scrutinize some other teams as closely as you do the Canes, and you'll see a lot of the same ****.

Stanford was routinely covering RBs and slot WRs with LBs in short areas over the middle last night against Oregon State.

The stuff we run is not unique.

I'm not really the type who likes one scheme over another. I just want continuity. If you teach the scheme properly and have the right athletes (and depth), anything can work.
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Preach Brotha..
 
Good point, Chise. Dare I say that we are gonna see what REAL explosive LBs look like this Sat against FSU. I think we can use that against them though. FSU has ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS been weak against RB screens because their LBs were too aggressive. Lets hope Coley can earn his money AND his respect against his former team.

I do believe help is on the way. Young guns like Grace, Figs, Armbrister, Owens, McCrary, Young and Kirby are exactly what we need.
 
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WhatTheHell said:
I'll never understand the logic that because we're undefeated we can't discuss the state of the team, both good and bad.

Aren't we all on a Canes message board to discuss the team? You think we're playing perfect and have no areas for improvement?
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And I'll never understand the logic that everything either has to be the GOAT or the WOAT, like there is no middle ground.

Truth is they don't "stink". They're average to slightly-above-average, IMO. Which is about what I would expect.
 
Perryman is a liability in pass coverage as well.

Corneluis and Armbrister came in as safeties so I doubt speed and athleticism is an issue there. Figueroa and Kirby can move.
 
I'm not a big scheme critic because those guys usually come off like blowhard c0ckbags. But I cringed watching us try to cover their best player with one of our poor players Cornileus.

When facing WF it should be obvious to anyone with a pulse that they have one really good WR and that you should take one of your best cover guys and tell him to follow that guy around all day. Basic stuff.
 
Canes_ said:
Perryman is a liability in pass coverage as well.

Corneluis and Armbrister came in as safeties so I doubt speed and athleticism is an issue there. Figueroa and Kirby can move.
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I don't care what The Millionaire and Don Cornileus came in as. They're very limited athletically even as LBs.
 
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Jesus Christ.

Armbrister and Cornelius go from vying for most improved to into the woodchipper in one week. God damnit man. Don't agree with any of this ****. They're not even remotely as bad as this thread would suggest.

I agree they're limited athletically, but that doesn't mean we haven't tapped the fullest of their potentials, or that they've been total disasters.
 
CanesAreAble said:
For the people complaining about the scheme, you guys should scrutinize some other teams as closely as you do the Canes, and you'll see a lot of the same ****.

Stanford was routinely covering RBs and slot WRs with LBs in short areas over the middle last night against Oregon State.

The stuff we run is not unique.

I'm not really the type who likes one scheme over another. I just want continuity. If you teach the scheme properly and have the right athletes (and depth), anything can work.
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Yea no matter what scheme you run, your LB's are going to be covering WR's and RB's. The difference imo is Stanford gets after the QB. Even when they aren't coming they show blitz, leading to lineman not even getting blocked at times. They don't even need to bring extra guys much because Murphy and their Dline are already disrupting things.

The majority of the game we are spread out in our base D bringing 4, making it very easy on the QB. With our Dline personnel on the first two downs, QB's have all day to throw against favorable matchups. When you're at a disadvantage you've got to at least make the QB feel uncomfortable and try to confuse him. We do blitz occasionally but even when we do its so obvious.
 
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Linebacker is one of those positions where seniors tend to get the nod over younger, more talented players. It comes down to things other than athleticism. Being able to read keys and maintain gap integrity. Our defense is predicated on being able to line up and have balance laterally and the upperclassmen are better pre-snap and doing what they have to do post-snap. We do lose athleticism though, because the upperclassmen on the outside aren't very athletic.

I like the group of young players we have though. They are big, athletic, and versatile (Owens, Young, McCray all in this mold as well as freshmen in 2014). In the future, I believe we'll have a more complete group of 'backers, because they'll be bigger and more athletic, but right now, they don't stink, they just lack athleticism to make all of the plays. As is, they are performing much better than they ever have before (Gaines, Cornileus), they just have a ceiling.
 
grace and figs will step up next year. I think denzel is gone after the year because thats what everyone says
 
Don't forget Gabe Terry, his long-term potential was through the roof and he should've been making noise for us this year. He and EJ killed our development here, they were freaks who had size AND ++ burst, which is what we need. I'm actually impressed we're squeezing as much out of Armbrister and True FR Figs as we have been, on paper coming into the season that was some scary isht. We have to recruit better here..... Owens is the prototype.
 
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They can't tackle, they are slow, they have no reaction. It's like our LBers are a throwback to the Radio years.

Some crazy homage to the Coker/Shannon decade.
 
I'm no Gaines homer. Was shocked he when some picked him to pop this year.

But he did have at least one TFL yesterday. Came at a big spot, too, IIRC.

That said, I agree that we need a new kind of Savage at LB. Scaryman is only one guy. Here's hoping Grace, Figs, and new blood really upgrades our suddenness at the position.
 
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Lb has been the least worried about behind only the Corners...

If you haven't been beyond worried about safety this year and next then you must be blind
 
skyman said:
Dorito loves to stay in base defense regardless of personnel, even against 5 wide we are in base D with LB all over the field spread on WR. Its maddening. It must make him feel pain when we go nickle or something.
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Kinda sounds like Shannon's defensive philosophy. lulz
 
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