Our DE depth chart

Expect to see more multiple fronts, 3-4 should mask some of that and use some of the speed we have at LB off the edge.
This. Chick or Green wont get to the QB unless its a coverage sack, we need real edge guys to get the pressure and help these young corners.
 
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Expect to see more multiple fronts, 3-4 should mask some of that and use some of the speed we have at LB off the edge.
This. Chick or Green wont get to the QB unless its a coverage sack, we need real edge guys to get the pressure and help these young corners.

I dont necessarily think chick is not going to be that at times. He has the ability as a college DE to be dominant, regardless of not having Elite Explosion. He has shown flashes of this at every level. Spring game he had a few plays were he came flying off the edge and was in the QBs face b4 he could finish his drop.

All that being said I feel that a lack of proven overall difference makers on the DL aside from Chick, we'll mix up fronts as D'Onofrio has said from jump street wants to run multiple fronts and mix up coverages.
 
Some of you guys are seriously selling Chickillo's talent short. He isn't just a hard worker/motor guy.
 
The reason why we are not recruiting more DEs is because we don't have to. Obviously the coaches like what they see from the FR. They are undersized and inexperienced now, but adding more undersized and inexperienced FR to the team for 2013 really isnt gonna help much. We just need to get the guys we do have the gametime experience and bulk they will need to improve.

Numbers wise we are fine. Cain, R Williams, Greene, Hamilton, Chick, Hoilette, McCord, ODonnell for 2012. 8 kids for 2 starting spots and 2 rotational spots. I personally think at least 1 of Cain/Greene wont be back in 2013 (maybe a medical hardship for Greene who has never finished a season here uninjured).

Another limiting factor on recruiting DE is the tiny recruiting class for 2013. If you want to add more than 1 DE this year, then you need to find more attrition preferably from the DE ranks so you dont cannibalize other spots. I guess the early returns on R Williams are not favorable but is Golden gonna give up on him to make room for another 2013 kid? I think if Golden was as concerned about DE as everyone else, we would have pushed harder for Jordan Sherit - right now, it looks like it's just Tim Williams or bust.

All of this is subject to change as the season goes on - if the FR dont progress and our DEs dont improve as a whole, you could see renewed emphasis here recruitingwise in the fall and winter.
 
The reason why we are not recruiting more DEs is because we don't have to. Obviously the coaches like what they see from the FR. They are undersized and inexperienced now, but adding more undersized and inexperienced FR to the team for 2013 really isnt gonna help much. We just need to get the guys we do have the gametime experience and bulk they will need to improve.

Numbers wise we are fine. Cain, R Williams, Greene, Hamilton, Chick, Hoilette, McCord, ODonnell for 2012. 8 kids for 2 starting spots and 2 rotational spots. I personally think at least 1 of Cain/Greene wont be back in 2013 (maybe a medical hardship for Greene who has never finished a season here uninjured).

Another limiting factor on recruiting DE is the tiny recruiting class for 2013. If you want to add more than 1 DE this year, then you need to find more attrition preferably from the DE ranks so you dont cannibalize other spots. I guess the early returns on R Williams are not favorable but is Golden gonna give up on him to make room for another 2013 kid? I think if Golden was as concerned about DE as everyone else, we would have pushed harder for Jordan Sherit - right now, it looks like it's just Tim Williams or bust.

All of this is subject to change as the season goes on - if the FR dont progress and our DEs dont improve as a whole, you could see renewed emphasis here recruitingwise in the fall and winter.

def agree with this
 
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I think Tim Williams ends up here, he just seems to fit our scheme much better than LSU's or FSU's and it would be a better situation for him.

The reason why we are not recruiting more DEs is because we don't have to. Obviously the coaches like what they see from the FR. They are undersized and inexperienced now, but adding more undersized and inexperienced FR to the team for 2013 really isnt gonna help much. We just need to get the guys we do have the gametime experience and bulk they will need to improve.

Numbers wise we are fine. Cain, R Williams, Greene, Hamilton, Chick, Hoilette, McCord, ODonnell for 2012. 8 kids for 2 starting spots and 2 rotational spots. I personally think at least 1 of Cain/Greene wont be back in 2013 (maybe a medical hardship for Greene who has never finished a season here uninjured).

Another limiting factor on recruiting DE is the tiny recruiting class for 2013. If you want to add more than 1 DE this year, then you need to find more attrition preferably from the DE ranks so you dont cannibalize other spots. I guess the early returns on R Williams are not favorable but is Golden gonna give up on him to make room for another 2013 kid? I think if Golden was as concerned about DE as everyone else, we would have pushed harder for Jordan Sherit - right now, it looks like it's just Tim Williams or bust.

All of this is subject to change as the season goes on - if the FR dont progress and our DEs dont improve as a whole, you could see renewed emphasis here recruitingwise in the fall and winter.
 
I agree that people are selling Chick short a bit, but the prospects of an injury to one of the starters in this group is just downright frightening. Best thing we can hope for is for the DT's to really step up their game this season and make things easier on the ends.
 
I had a dream last night that Chick suddenly decided to transfer. It was like Shapiro all over again.

That's not a dream - that's a nightmare.

I think Chick would stay even if a hurricane blew the school away and they canceled football.
 
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