On Howard's PI call

[nope44]

That was an obvious PI call. He never even turned to look for the ball.

 

[bozcane]

So I guess you didn't see all those CB blitzes we sent from the field? We constantly brought pressure. They pass protected well.

Besides, they're a quick flare passing team.

Scheme was fine tonight. Poor tackling and a couple coverage busts hurt. Gunter probably has an INT if he's not biting on an underneath route that isn't there.

Actually, flushing this out now is a good thing. I guarantee you OC's everywhere saw what UNC exposed last night. The good news is that it's fixable, and if there's a scheme to be commented on it's UNC's clever use of it in this, their super bowl game. Still, UNC suffers an agonizing, we could have had it loss. They came SO close. THIS close and lost. TS.

We're 6-0.

 

[Canefam]

My biggest complaint with the schemes is what Pollack was howling about the entire broadcast- why is Ebron allowed to get scot-free releases for every single play in the game? We didn't try to knock him off a route once, and we KNEW he was the #1 threat coming into this game by a mile. I'm not saying we have to play bump man from the first snap, because truthfully I do not believe we have a safety or LB who could stay with him, but at least give him some different looks.

Our first half gameplan against their #1 threat was abhorrent. Props on the adjustments, but it shouldn't come to that.

Very true......

No gameplay for Ebron was just silly. You have to minimize their best players...

 

[bransuperpower]

But the defense actually won this game for us....

 

[arizonacane]

Dorito doesn't know how to defend the middle crossing patterns. Expect to see a lot this from our opponents the rest of the year.

 

[skyman]

UNC threw for almost 400 yards on crossing routes, lol..

a lil man coverage wouldnt hurt...

A guy like Renner standing in the pocket with a bunch of freshman olineman as he picked us apart was not a good look, we never seemed to try to confuse their olineman once. I know our O played like crap, but can we not make every decent qb we face feel soooo comfortable in pocket.

 

[Angry Ibis]

Let's take a look at what actually happened last night before we overreact too much:

- Ebron's long touchdown - Had him contained underneath and Howard whiffed on a tackle instead hitting one of his own teammates killing two birds with one stone missing his own tackle and blocking for Ebron.

- Other TD - blown coverage by Gunter leaves receiver wide open

- there was a play where the receiver ran the underneath route and Perryman tried to pass him off to the next guy who, as the announcers pointed out, was nowhere to be found

- Ebron was held in check for most of the second half

There are still holes but some of it appears to be execution rather than simply scheme. Considering the safeties getting nicked up early, #30 played quite a bit and appeared out of position, taking bad angles and/or a step slow, which did not help.

 

[Fzac75]

******* John Madden football coupled with playing 2nd or 3rd string of their high school or starter for Braddock football team has made a bunch of people on these sites as expert defensive coordinators of college or NFL teams

 

[jruiz]

seems like our DB's were running into each other all night

 

[Consigliere]

My biggest complaint with the schemes is what Pollack was howling about the entire broadcast- why is Ebron allowed to get scot-free releases for every single play in the game? We didn't try to knock him off a route once, and we KNEW he was the #1 threat coming into this game by a mile. I'm not saying we have to play bump man from the first snap, because truthfully I do not believe we have a safety or LB who could stay with him, but at least give him some different looks.

Our first half gameplan against their #1 threat was abhorrent. Props on the adjustments, but it shouldn't come to that.

I agree there were issues, on two of his big catches we had players miss a tackle or RUN INTO EACH OTHER.

 

[Consigliere]

seems like our DB's were running into each other all night

Kirby ran straight into Howard on one of the big Ebron plays.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Let's take a look at what actually happened last night before we overreact too much:

- Ebron's long touchdown - Had him contained underneath and Howard whiffed on a tackle instead hitting one of his own teammates killing two birds with one stone missing his own tackle and blocking for Ebron.

- Other TD - blown coverage by Gunter leaves receiver wide open

- there was a play where the receiver ran the underneath route and Perryman tried to pass him off to the next guy who, as the announcers pointed out, was nowhere to be found

- Ebron was held in check for most of the second half

There are still holes but some of it appears to be execution rather than simply scheme. Considering the safeties getting nicked up early, #30 played quite a bit and appeared out of position, taking bad angles and/or a step slow, which did not help.

This....I rewatched the game late last night and this about sums it up.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

seems like our DB's were running into each other all night

That signifies "man coverage" but if you haven't heard on the board........we didn't run any of that last night so you must have been seeing things.

 

[CanesAreAble]

UNC threw for almost 400 yards on crossing routes, lol..

a lil man coverage wouldnt hurt...

A guy like Renner standing in the pocket with a bunch of freshman olineman as he picked us apart was not a good look, we never seemed to try to confuse their olineman once. I know our O played like crap, but can we not make every decent qb we face feel soooo comfortable in pocket.

The solution to crossing routes is MORE man coverage???

 

[Big Sky Cane]

UNC threw for almost 400 yards on crossing routes, lol..

a lil man coverage wouldnt hurt...

A guy like Renner standing in the pocket with a bunch of freshman olineman as he picked us apart was not a good look, we never seemed to try to confuse their olineman once. I know our O played like crap, but can we not make every decent qb we face feel soooo comfortable in pocket.

The solution to crossing routes is MORE man coverage???

In the internet world of Canes fans it is. I swear to god you guys are ******* retarded. Never game planned or coached a day in your life.......

 

[nope44]

Let's take a look at what actually happened last night before we overreact too much:

- Ebron's long touchdown - Had him contained underneath and Howard whiffed on a tackle instead hitting one of his own teammates killing two birds with one stone missing his own tackle and blocking for Ebron.

- Other TD - blown coverage by Gunter leaves receiver wide open

- there was a play where the receiver ran the underneath route and Perryman tried to pass him off to the next guy who, as the announcers pointed out, was nowhere to be found

- Ebron was held in check for most of the second half

There are still holes but some of it appears to be execution rather than simply scheme. Considering the safeties getting nicked up early, #30 played quite a bit and appeared out of position, taking bad angles and/or a step slow, which did not help.

I don't know what exactly the design of the defense was, but on that blown coverage TD Gunter seemed to have the coverage underneath and the safety (Think it was Rayshawn) bit towards the middle of the field (don't know why, the safety on the other side of the field had that assignment). Gunter was visibly ****ed on the sideline after to the point that highsmith and howard came and knelt in front of him to talk. Rayshawn seemed off all night with his coverage, so that would make a little sense.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

I don't know what exactly the design of the defense was, but on that blown coverage TD Gunter seemed to have the coverage underneath and the safety (Think it was Rayshawn) bit towards the middle of the field (don't know why, the safety on the other side of the field had that assignment). Gunter was visibly ****ed on the sideline after to the point that highsmith and howard came and knelt in front of him to talk. Rayshawn seemed off all night with his coverage, so that would make a little sense.

They discussed the coverage exactly correct on the TV last night. It was a cover two concept and Gunter should have kept sinking if he wasn't threatened in his flat (which he wasn't). The middle deep was threatened which forced both safeties to react early and the safety was late rolling over. The play was designed to beat cover 2 and our players just got out executed.

 

[nope44]

I don't know what exactly the design of the defense was, but on that blown coverage TD Gunter seemed to have the coverage underneath and the safety (Think it was Rayshawn) bit towards the middle of the field (don't know why, the safety on the other side of the field had that assignment). Gunter was visibly ****ed on the sideline after to the point that highsmith and howard came and knelt in front of him to talk. Rayshawn seemed off all night with his coverage, so that would make a little sense.

They discussed the coverage exactly correct on the TV last night. It was a cover two concept and Gunter should have kept sinking if he wasn't threatened in his flat (which he wasn't). The middle deep was threatened which forced both safeties to react early and the safety was late rolling over. The play was designed to beat cover 2 and our players just got out executed.

Like I said, I don't know the exact design of our defense on that play. Only people who can tell you for sure was the eleven out there and the coaches. Just looking at it with my tired eyes last night.

 

[bobbydigius]

I thought it was a BS PI call anyways. Late, of course.

Def wasn't PI

It was an obvious PI. Come on, guys, I will gladly lead any "the-refs-hate-Miami" campaign because IMO it´s true. But that one was obvious. He grabbed the WR´s left hand and then still had time to let go and wrap the same arm (right) around the guy´s hip. He also had his left hand on the WR´s upper right arm. All while the ball was in the air. Refs had to call it.

And what do you mean by late? Because the flag was already on the ground when the ball hit the ground.

And mind you, never turned around to play the ball, which will get called every single time.