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[bigmont80]

I haven't been over to CIS in a while, but all the threads I'm reading today sound just like the WEZ did about 2-3 years ago.


/WEZ ahead of the curve

 

[PuertoRiCane]

The admin has been giving this program and fanbase the finger for over a decade. We've had enough. We won't be quiet anymore.

 

[Consigliere]

The admin has been giving this program and fanbase the finger for over a decade. We've had enough. We won't be quiet anymore.

What took you so long?

 

[CANE4LIFE]

The admin has been giving the fan base the finger for over 3 decades. That part is nothing new. UM just needs a new president that doesn't care about Football and leaves the AD to run the AD as they see fit, and for the school to hopefully be able to afford the buyout to get rid of this guy next year.

Anyone expecting the UM administration to give a sh*t about the success of the football team is wasting their time.

 

[Chuckles]

Anyone concerned that chad thomas tweeted out blasting the fanbase? And also king tweeted also

Ive been screaming about this for several years now. People have been out of hand for a while now. Golden has obviously failed. He needs to go. There are ways fans can express their displeasure, but the toxicity around our fanbase right now is just off the charts. We aren't doing ourselves any favors for this program. We are stuck with Golden for another year. Its perfectly acceptable to write letters to the AD, to the BOT, cancel tickets, express displeasure, but some of the over the top bashing on twitter and online, people saying stupid sh*t to our players, our recruits, their families, etc.... its just gotten totally out of control.

Golden absolutely has to go. He is the single biggest problem for this program right now, but the fans are not helping things at ALL.

Its bad enough trying to beg kids to come here with the situation we have, but when our fans are actively telling recruits they are stupid if they come here, what else would people expect? And THAT is what just drives me nuts. We are desperately trying to land a kid, maybe he's on the fence, 50/50, he already obviously has concerns about the current ****ty state of the program, and then while he's trying to make up his mind, our fans are basically telling him NOT to come here, that he's a moron if he does, he will ruin his career, etc.. basically negatively recruiting AGAINST UM, and THEN, they cry and flip out when the kid doesn't come.

AGAIN, our record and our failed staff is by far the most significant reason recruiting has all but collapsed for us. But the hysteria of some of our fans is only making things worse as far as recruiting. WHOEVER the next coach is, is going to need some talent and players to work with and rebuild. So I don't see how working to further sabotage our future is going to improve anything. Some cats need to take it down a notch and really think about what they are trying to accomplish.

Agreed. There has been nothing redeemable around here for months, and likewise on Canes sites with a similar frothing obsession. The dialog is not clever. Not interesting. Not valuable in the slightest, either currently applied or going forward. Hatred and fear are not attractants. I have no idea how anyone expects recruits or coaches or even undeclared fans to try a sample and think, yep, that's the group I want to join.

It shouldn't be this pathetic. I joined Dolphin sites when Wannstedt was coach. For all the disdain in his direction, you could still easily wade through it and identify reasonable posters with impressive info and perspective. Likewise on USC forums during the end of the Hackett years, and more recently under Kiffin.

I have to say the Rosa Parks comparison was hilarious. Particularly from a moderator. Score one point, even if it's merely another predictable SAM, desperate to inject politics where it doesn't threaten to belong. To retreat more than 50 years for the desperation was ultra special. Actually I've seen moderators here take some of the wildest swings of all, like Tiger Woods last week en route to 82.

IMO, our recruiting trend once again makes perfect sense. I predicted it in 2007 and countless times subsequently. Nothing good is going to happen in this stadium. Sure, the kids may like the sound of playing for the University of Miami, and the coaches come across well in first impression. Lots of swell early commitments. But once they get a glimpse of what true college football is like at schools with on-campus venues and all the natural benefits, we're going to leak late virtually every year. Obviously the Bar Stoolers will fixate on specific kids, saying X was the reason with this guy and Y was the tipping point with that guy. That type forever is content to allow the big picture to fly over his head while making one wild subjective stab after another. Bottom line, with so much competition we can't afford to sacrifice a vital few percent in a critical area. The 50/50 kids aren't really 50/50 under those conditions. Sure, a very rare guy leading the program can add let's say 10% and reverse the expectancy, but that's likely to be short term and fleeting.

Whut?

 

[Notsince1985]

Anyone concerned that chad thomas tweeted out blasting the fanbase? And also king tweeted also

Ive been screaming about this for several years now. People have been out of hand for a while now. Golden has obviously failed. He needs to go. There are ways fans can express their displeasure, but the toxicity around our fanbase right now is just off the charts. We aren't doing ourselves any favors for this program. We are stuck with Golden for another year. Its perfectly acceptable to write letters to the AD, to the BOT, cancel tickets, express displeasure, but some of the over the top bashing on twitter and online, people saying stupid sh*t to our players, our recruits, their families, etc.... its just gotten totally out of control.

Golden absolutely has to go. He is the single biggest problem for this program right now, but the fans are not helping things at ALL.

Its bad enough trying to beg kids to come here with the situation we have, but when our fans are actively telling recruits they are stupid if they come here, what else would people expect? And THAT is what just drives me nuts. We are desperately trying to land a kid, maybe he's on the fence, 50/50, he already obviously has concerns about the current ****ty state of the program, and then while he's trying to make up his mind, our fans are basically telling him NOT to come here, that he's a moron if he does, he will ruin his career, etc.. basically negatively recruiting AGAINST UM, and THEN, they cry and flip out when the kid doesn't come.

AGAIN, our record and our failed staff is by far the most significant reason recruiting has all but collapsed for us. But the hysteria of some of our fans is only making things worse as far as recruiting. WHOEVER the next coach is, is going to need some talent and players to work with and rebuild. So I don't see how working to further sabotage our future is going to improve anything. Some cats need to take it down a notch and really think about what they are trying to accomplish.

Agreed. There has been nothing redeemable around here for months, and likewise on Canes sites with a similar frothing obsession. The dialog is not clever. Not interesting. Not valuable in the slightest, either currently applied or going forward. Hatred and fear are not attractants. I have no idea how anyone expects recruits or coaches or even undeclared fans to try a sample and think, yep, that's the group I want to join.

It shouldn't be this pathetic. I joined Dolphin sites when Wannstedt was coach. For all the disdain in his direction, you could still easily wade through it and identify reasonable posters with impressive info and perspective. Likewise on USC forums during the end of the Hackett years, and more recently under Kiffin.

I have to say the Rosa Parks comparison was hilarious. Particularly from a moderator. Score one point, even if it's merely another predictable SAM, desperate to inject politics where it doesn't threaten to belong. To retreat more than 50 years for the desperation was ultra special. Actually I've seen moderators here take some of the wildest swings of all, like Tiger Woods last week en route to 82.

IMO, our recruiting trend once again makes perfect sense. I predicted it in 2007 and countless times subsequently. Nothing good is going to happen in this stadium. Sure, the kids may like the sound of playing for the University of Miami, and the coaches come across well in first impression. Lots of swell early commitments. But once they get a glimpse of what true college football is like at schools with on-campus venues and all the natural benefits, we're going to leak late virtually every year. Obviously the Bar Stoolers will fixate on specific kids, saying X was the reason with this guy and Y was the tipping point with that guy. That type forever is content to allow the big picture to fly over his head while making one wild subjective stab after another. Bottom line, with so much competition we can't afford to sacrifice a vital few percent in a critical area. The 50/50 kids aren't really 50/50 under those conditions. Sure, a very rare guy leading the program can add let's say 10% and reverse the expectancy, but that's likely to be short term and fleeting.

Whut?

Jesus Christ, the two of them quoting each other....too much to take....head going to explode

 

[grover]

Did Perry sign his LOI?

 

[whoopingcane]

Anyone concerned that chad thomas tweeted out blasting the fanbase? And also king tweeted also

Ive been screaming about this for several years now. People have been out of hand for a while now. Golden has obviously failed. He needs to go. There are ways fans can express their displeasure, but the toxicity around our fanbase right now is just off the charts. We aren't doing ourselves any favors for this program. We are stuck with Golden for another year. Its perfectly acceptable to write letters to the AD, to the BOT, cancel tickets, express displeasure, but some of the over the top bashing on twitter and online, people saying stupid sh*t to our players, our recruits, their families, etc.... its just gotten totally out of control.

Golden absolutely has to go. He is the single biggest problem for this program right now, but the fans are not helping things at ALL.

Its bad enough trying to beg kids to come here with the situation we have, but when our fans are actively telling recruits they are stupid if they come here, what else would people expect? And THAT is what just drives me nuts. We are desperately trying to land a kid, maybe he's on the fence, 50/50, he already obviously has concerns about the current ****ty state of the program, and then while he's trying to make up his mind, our fans are basically telling him NOT to come here, that he's a moron if he does, he will ruin his career, etc.. basically negatively recruiting AGAINST UM, and THEN, they cry and flip out when the kid doesn't come.

AGAIN, our record and our failed staff is by far the most significant reason recruiting has all but collapsed for us. But the hysteria of some of our fans is only making things worse as far as recruiting. WHOEVER the next coach is, is going to need some talent and players to work with and rebuild. So I don't see how working to further sabotage our future is going to improve anything. Some cats need to take it down a notch and really think about what they are trying to accomplish.

Agreed. There has been nothing redeemable around here for months, and likewise on Canes sites with a similar frothing obsession. The dialog is not clever. Not interesting. Not valuable in the slightest, either currently applied or going forward. Hatred and fear are not attractants. I have no idea how anyone expects recruits or coaches or even undeclared fans to try a sample and think, yep, that's the group I want to join.

It shouldn't be this pathetic. I joined Dolphin sites when Wannstedt was coach. For all the disdain in his direction, you could still easily wade through it and identify reasonable posters with impressive info and perspective. Likewise on USC forums during the end of the Hackett years, and more recently under Kiffin.

I have to say the Rosa Parks comparison was hilarious. Particularly from a moderator. Score one point, even if it's merely another predictable SAM, desperate to inject politics where it doesn't threaten to belong. To retreat more than 50 years for the desperation was ultra special. Actually I've seen moderators here take some of the wildest swings of all, like Tiger Woods last week en route to 82.

IMO, our recruiting trend once again makes perfect sense. I predicted it in 2007 and countless times subsequently. Nothing good is going to happen in this stadium. Sure, the kids may like the sound of playing for the University of Miami, and the coaches come across well in first impression. Lots of swell early commitments. But once they get a glimpse of what true college football is like at schools with on-campus venues and all the natural benefits, we're going to leak late virtually every year. Obviously the Bar Stoolers will fixate on specific kids, saying X was the reason with this guy and Y was the tipping point with that guy. That type forever is content to allow the big picture to fly over his head while making one wild subjective stab after another. Bottom line, with so much competition we can't afford to sacrifice a vital few percent in a critical area. The 50/50 kids aren't really 50/50 under those conditions. Sure, a very rare guy leading the program can add let's say 10% and reverse the expectancy, but that's likely to be short term and fleeting.

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