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mirvin88 said:
If not 0 (probably is) it’s very close to none.
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It is 0, in fact, lol.

2020- All Taggart/JimBob recruits

2021- Johnson (UGA Transfer)

2022- Robinson (USCe Transfer)

2023- Green (Taggart); rest were transfers

Yet they keep screeching about Mikey Straightbacks and his “eLiTe dEvElOpMeNt.” But we already know those clowns lead the country in delusional takes.
 
mirvin88 said:
If not 0 (probably is) it’s very close to none.
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It is 0. Although Renardo Green signed with FSU out of high school, he was not recruited by Norvell and was already enrolled at FSU before Norvell took the job. Now, as much as I loathe FSU, this next season will be Norvell's 5th full season as HC. His first true recruiting class will be seniors and juniors (COVID year). Let's see what happens in the 2025 draft.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Is it true Norvell was hired in December of 2019 and as of April 2024 not a single kid he recruited from high school has been drafted in any round?
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It’s true, 9 of 10 NFL draft pics over the weekend for FSU are Transfer Portal players. Renardo Green was part of Willie Taggart’s 2019 recruiting class and signed his letter of intent with FSU in December of 2018, one year before Norvell was hired.

Signed,

Peruche
 
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Dwinstitles said:
So we aren’t allowed to get transfers because we recruit HS hard? Got it



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That is the way. Hit both hard and use transfers to supplement and ensure that the lineup is tweaked to optimal efficiency. We have signed 27 high schools players (#4 class). We appear to be on our way to 13 transfer portal players, including a highly rated RB and the best transfer quarterback.

FSU signed 23 high school players (#12 class) and 15 transfers. Ten of the latter were rated .9000 or above. They have nothing to complain to us about
 
GojiraCane said:
That is the way. Hit both hard and use transfers to supplement and ensure that the lineup is tweaked to optimal efficiency. We have signed 27 high schools players (#4 class). We appear to be on our way to 13 transfer portal players, including a highly rated RB and the best transfer quarterback.

FSU signed 23 high school players (#12 class) and 15 transfers. Ten of the latter were rated .9000 or above. They have nothing to complain to us about
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when the elite players are in the portal regardless of position you go for it

facts
 
Dwinstitles said:
when the elite players are in the portal regardless of position you go for it

facts
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Yes. It’s different now from when Mario joined Oregon. Players can leave at whim, or leave when they want bigger NIL. You cannot rely on a HS only model. It’s why I think Clemson will either reassess, invest absurdly large NIL investments that somehow tie players to schools for three to four years, or fall be the wayside.

All Norvell did was adopt the transfer model earlier and heavier - at the expense of development of younger players. It’s clear that FSU is devoting the bulk of its NIL resources to transfers. We’ll see how it works out in the long run.
 
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GojiraCane said:
Yes. It’s different now from when Mario joined Oregon. Players can leave at whim, or leave when they want bigger NIL. You cannot rely on a HS only model. It’s why I think Clemson will either reassess, invest absurdly large NIL investments that somehow tie players to schools for three to four years, or fall be the wayside.

All Norvell did was adopt the transfer model earlier and heavier - at the expense of development of younger players. It’s clear that FSU is devoting the bulk of its NIL resources to transfers. We’ll see how it works out in the long run.
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It also lets trash coaches that would fail under old model like Norvell prosper. Dudes that cant evaluate DL or defense in general now see whos good and goes after them in the following portal year. Now u see a team like Ole Miss get some DL talent because they saw who was legit with cfb film not HS film. So now some coaches that would never win may have a chance now.
 
Dwinstitles said:
It also lets trash coaches that would fail under old model like Norvell prosper. Dudes that cant evaluate DL or defense in general now see whos good and goes after them in the following portal year. Now u see a team like Ole Miss get some DL talent because they saw who was legit with cfb film not HS film. So now some coaches that would never win may have a chance now.
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Or coaches that inherited poor circumstances to have a second lease on life. Charlie Strong for instance might have had a significantly better tenure at UT if he could have used transfers and NIL. Ditto Al Golden when you consider Randy’s 2010 class had largely departed before the 2012 season began, and the 2011 class fell apart along with that UM season. Transfers would have helped mightly
 
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GojiraCane said:
Or coaches that inherited poor circumstances to have a second lease on life. Charlie Strong for instance might have had a significantly better tenure at UT if he could have used transfers and NIL. Ditto Al Golden when you consider Randy’s 2010 class had largely departed before the 2012 season began, and the 2011 class fell apart along with that UM season. Transfers would have helped mightly
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facts, its a different era now and we are equipped for it. The last era was the age of social media and film being on deck and we sucked at it. This era we are back
 
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