No Love for the Upperclassmen????

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1st let me give a shout out to Peter Ariz. You are by far the #1 guy to go to when it comes to given real updates and information on the Miami football team. The MiamiHerald is to busy asking dumb@ss questions for them to actually have good info so this site is definitely top dog.

Alright now back on topic:

IMO, it seems like a lot of Cane fans, not just here, but all over the web, really dont have confidence in our upperclassmen. Some of you simply dog them by saying their "Shannon's recruits" as if Golden wouldn't have wanted these guys. These guys made Al Golden's cut the ones that didn't make it are the ones that we should label as "Shannon's left overs."

Regardless we seem to only care about what our freshman our doing in practice.... which is cool to me but I also feel like their are certain veteran guys on this team that will make significant strides this year and play major roles on this team. Our freshman will not be the reason we win the Coastal this year. Which I think we will win.... it will be these guys.

1. Mike James - He has always hovered around the 220 lb weight, but it seems like we have failed to realize how different this guy looks physically this year..... It was hard to notice that he was 220 lbs last year but now he looks like a Tank in a uniform. He is definitely poised for a major break out year IMO.

2. Eduardo Clements - I think Eduardo will be the reason Duke doesn't sniff 100 carries this year. His potential is being overlooked b/c he is squeezed between James and Duke, but he is probably the toughest RB we have. Remember he is a Miami kid 2, so he has that same confidence as the other Miami natives on the team.

3. Allen Hurns - It seems that people just think he is a possession wide receiver, but that pass he caught against V. Tech in the endzone behind showed me he can definitely be a playmaker for us this year.

4. Shayon Green - I honestly think, he can be better than Chickillo, if he can stay HEALTHY. That is his only knock, but this kid looks like a freak of nature. He looks like a smaller Allen Bailey.

5. Ramon Buchanon & Jimmy Gaines - J. Gaines is 6'3" 232 lbs and Cookie is 6'1 228.... I don't remember the last time Miami has had linebackers this big on the outside. Gaines is a very smart and solid linebacker and Ramon is an athletic Freak of nature.... It's been a while since I can honestly say that our linebacker unit wont just be one linebacker making plays w/ a bunch of scrubs on the side. Gaines, Buchanon, and Perryman will be a very serious threat to teams health and safety next year.

6. Curtis Porter - Honestly, I think we would have won more games, last year, if he was on the field. I literally saw this man blow up the USF line w/ one hand last year. If he can meet the challenge that the coaching staff has given him this camp, he will be the guy that Golden was hoping would seperate themselves from the pack.

7. Brandon McGee - He gets a lot of criticism.... But late last year, I really saw someone that can really be a potential lockdown cornerback. Now he might not be the kind thats going to have a lot of interceptions but I think he can blanket a receiver and make it difficult for a QB to try his side of the field. I definitely would trust him, right now, over Tracy Howard. You can't teach experience, and McGee is more athletic, at this point, as well.

note: Let me also say, last year he looked very weak and I understood why Coach D couldn't use press coverage w/ him and #41... Not anymore, this guy looks like he is 200 lbs and has guns for arms now. I expect him to really look and play the part this year at Cornerback.

8. Kacy Rodgers II - It's pretty obvious to say speed and quickness has been missing @ the safety position. Last year he wasn't ready physically or mentally. But this year this guy looks completely different and according to Coach Williams he hasn't "blinked" yet when it comes to being the guy @ the Free Safety position. I trust that this time around he won't freeze up when he gets into position to make a play.

9. Stephen Morris - I think this guy is definitely ready to be a leader..... I think the main thing that he will bring to the table that Harris didn't was his dual threat ability. Their won't be any hesitation to use his feet to make plays if he feels thats what he has to do. Jacory was so indecisive at running that I couldn't take it sometimes. Their were many times that our QB could have just ran the ball for big gains but Jacory just didn't want to do that for some reason.


I think when you look at the job Golden has done @ Temple as far as developing talent... I dont understand why we cant just accept the fact that Golden will turn all of these guys into better players for us. IMO it wasn't these players lack of talent that was the issue, it was Shannon's inability to run an effective College Football program.

Although our team has a lot of youngsters, we also have the perfect mixture of veterans at key positions that will allow us the opportunity to win a lot of games this year and surprise a lot of people.
 
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I've said many times(too many that it's become redundant) that I question how good James and Clements will be as I wouldn't see them starting for any team. They will be serviceable but as far as RB's that will be playmakers I don't think so.

Big fan of Hurns

Green- Can he stay healthy? Looks like an ox gets hurt a lot.

Gaines and Buch- Will see, I think Gaines would be better as a back up imo.

Porter- I think he CAN be the difference maker in the middle of the DL, hope he stays healthy.

McGee- No faith in him.

Rodgers- Although unproven i'm jumping on his bandwagon.

Morris- I think he's going be great.
 
Solid post anytime my man Eduardo.T. Clements get's some love.
I've been on this bandwagon since the beginning. Kid is a straight up baller. Has the highest overall football instincts and IQ of all players.
Shame he didn't get more play at RB last year than what he ended up getting.
 
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If these guys are ranked in importance to win the Coastal morris needs to be 1st.


Morris is definitely the most important.... The fact that we have him for two more years is even better. When it comes to QB, the amount of time you spend in the system coincides w/ how well you play on the field. For the 1st time in a while we will have a group of QBs that won't have to learn a different offense every year.

I could've also mentioned the O-line. Having a strong bond on and off the field is important when you are on the line, and hearing things about how those guys hang out all the time, is a huge step in the right direction. Also not having a guard playing left tackle is always a plus.
 
Solid post anytime my man Eduardo.T. Clements get's some love.
I've been on this bandwagon since the beginning. Kid is a straight up baller. Has the highest overall football instincts and IQ of all players.
Shame he didn't get more play at RB last year than what he ended up getting.

Eduardo made me notice him late last year.... I was like this guy definitely needs the ball more than just on 3rd down. He has a fearless attitude and doesn't go down easy.
 
Stephen Morris - have not done S**T but he gets my respect

Allen Hurn is above avg. WR in ACC ...but boy AH need to gain more weight

Eduardo Clements -I agree EC will bring it this season

Mike James- love the kid passion but I'm yet to see anything special in his play

Kacy Rodgers II-yet to be determent


Shayon Green-I don't know if I'm buying or sell (the hype)

Curtis Porter-the key to the defense

Ramon Buchanon -I like, low nfl draft pick ,must stay health

Brandon McGee and Jimmy Gaines- no comment
 
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Dont really care about the SRs. Miami football is about the future right now, not 2012. Wouldnt mind at all if every SR got benched to free up valuable playing time for the younger kids.
 
Dont really care about the SRs. Miami football is about the future right now, not 2012. Wouldnt mind at all if every SR got benched to free up valuable playing time for the younger kids.

Agree. 2012 is going to suck. Worst year since '97. 2013 should definitely be a bowl team. 2014 might be decent before sanctions hit.
 
I really appreciate this post. The freshmen are the foundation for the future. These guys listed are the cornerstone for this season, and based on what Golden has
Said this season is not a wash and they are going to compete for the coastal div.
 
I really appreciate this post. The freshmen are the foundation for the future. These guys listed are the cornerstone for this season, and based on what Golden has
Said this season is not a wash and they are going to compete for the coastal div.
Seriously?
 
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Dont really care about the SRs. Miami football is about the future right now, not 2012. Wouldnt mind at all if every SR got benched to free up valuable playing time for the younger kids.

Agree. 2012 is going to suck. Worst year since '97. 2013 should definitely be a bowl team. 2014 might be decent before sanctions hit.

Wow, you have no faith in our team rt now. 9-3 this year, we win the ACC in 13 and the whole thing in 14
 
holy **** OP is bringing it

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Dont really care about the SRs. Miami football is about the future right now, not 2012. Wouldnt mind at all if every SR got benched to free up valuable playing time for the younger kids.

Agree. 2012 is going to suck. Worst year since '97. 2013 should definitely be a bowl team. 2014 might be decent before sanctions hit.

Wow, you have no faith in our team rt now. 9-3 this year, we win the ACC in 13 and the whole thing in 14

Uh, 4-8 is more likely than 9-3.

We're already more than a TD underdogs at Kansas State, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame and Florida State. ****, we're not even favored over Boston College.

We have two guaranteed wins. Two. 9-3 is crackpipe.

I like Golden, but this team doesn't have much in the way of talent. Home field against all but FSU sucks, as we don't come close to filling the stadium. Things will again be great! But they're about to get a lot worse first.
 
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Dont really care about the SRs. Miami football is about the future right now, not 2012. Wouldnt mind at all if every SR got benched to free up valuable playing time for the younger kids.

I think this team is going to surprise some people this year. Golden ran off most if not all the cancer upon arrival. Last year wasn't great but I saw player development and heart finally. A lot of youngsters played last year. Golden was good about getting young guys some experience. Last years class came in ready and didn't have any bad habits to have to undo. They were able to come right in psyched and ready to go and get after it. They didn't have to buy in.

I expect a team more disciplined with a higher football IQ that is way stronger and physically ready for the season. The O-line is finally going to live up to the hype allowing the new QB to spread the ball around. Having DT's on the roster is going to be the foundation that allows our LB's to ball out while the DB's gel. Should be a much better team all around. I doubt any walk-ons make any road games this year. That's how bad it was last season.
 
Uh, 4-8 is more likely than 9-3.

We're already more than a TD underdogs at Kansas State, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame and Florida State. ****, we're not even favored over Boston College.

We have two guaranteed wins. Two. 9-3 is crackpipe.

I like Golden, but this team doesn't have much in the way of talent. Home field against all but FSU sucks, as we don't come close to filling the stadium. Things will again be great! But they're about to get a lot worse first.

We were heavily favored vs KSU last year.
We were favored to beat BC.

Don't base your expectations on what Vegas says.

This team is better at almost every position compared to last especially at QB.
With better Defensive and QB play this team at worse is a 9 win team.
 
Uh, 4-8 is more likely than 9-3.

We're already more than a TD underdogs at Kansas State, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame and Florida State. ****, we're not even favored over Boston College.

We have two guaranteed wins. Two. 9-3 is crackpipe.

I like Golden, but this team doesn't have much in the way of talent. Home field against all but FSU sucks, as we don't come close to filling the stadium. Things will again be great! But they're about to get a lot worse first.

We were heavily favored vs KSU last year.
We were favored to beat BC.

Don't base your expectations on what Vegas says.

This team is better at almost every position compared to last especially at QB.
With better Defensive and QB play this team at worse is a 9 win team.

preach brother, my feeling!!
 
Ray Buch has a good shot at getting drafted with a solid year. I like him at OLB.

do not want Gaines. I'm willing to give him another look this year but I dont think he is very good and I'd much rather see a Kirby or EJ back there
 
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