Njoku, Cleveland's Starting TE?

[HarrietTubmanCane]

QBs come to Cleveland dead already. Njoku will start. Fact: this is the 1st time since Modell that the Browns have had an owner who has any intentions on winning football games. Clevelanders are their own worst enemies because they support their sports teams no matter what, even when owners make no efforts to produce a winning team. Cleveland sports fans sell out all areas and fields without a need to supply the city's fans a winner. We get taken advantage of but that's changing. The OLine is fine we already signed 2 major free agents during this offseason. Duke needs to be used better with throws in the flat, screens, drag routes, basically he is a real threat as a RB/slot WR. Whenever he lines up and is targeted in the slot it's a big gain but the Browns never come back to this strategem. Barnidge dropped a lot of balls last season but was a really good player on bad teams. Kizer is the QB of the future for the Browns.

i like cleveland, but i hate bullish!t. they didn't sell out the indians when they sucked. they didn't sell out when they were in the hunt last year. there were almost as many cubs fans in your park for the WS as indians fans. in 2016, just a seasons ago, they were third from the bottom in the AL. here is a link 2016 Major League Baseball Attendance they were at the bottom of tickets sold and attendance for the last decade. they did not sell out every game last year. before and after labron, the cav's sold nothing. they, like every other fan base, have their moments. the majority of nfl teams sell most of their tickets. the browns sold 97.2% capacity last season, compared to 91%, 90% and 90.3% in the previous three seasons. the real attendance is 2016 NFL Football Attendance - National Football League - ESPN. i don't blame their fans for not showing up. cleveland fans are better than some, but like everyone else, they don't SELL OUT everything. they do suffer more than most. they also complain more than most. they are no different than buffalo, chicago, nyc and every other town wanting to support a winner. revenue sharing and television contracts allow the ownership to survive, not the local support. go Canes

Are U from Cleveland? The point was that Cleveland pay and have paid waaay too much for losing franchises so much so that owning a sports franchise in Cleveland is all reward and no risk due to the religious following of Cleveland fans especially Browns fans. Businessmen are attracted to Cleveland sports team ownership because U can collect but not need to pay out and as long as U supply a team, there isn't enough true demand for a winner. Zero repercussions from the fanbase other than lip service.

All the stats and analytics aside I was just reacting as a lifelong Clevelander to the thread and what I think is a misconception of how and why Cleveland teams don't do well. I've lived here for 38 years, I couldn't careless about the specifics and details of your argument. Cleveland is not everywhere else and that's a fact, U can disagree if U are from Cleveland I'll honor that, but if not like Pac said, "you'd have to be here to know it" in his song "To Live and Die in LA".

 

[daddacane]

Cleveland had a very great draft. They didn't reach on a QB and still got peppers njoku and Garrett and a QB in kizer.

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That should get them a solid last place finish instead of a tie with another team...

 

[Boarcane]

QBs come to Cleveland dead already. Njoku will start. Fact: this is the 1st time since Modell that the Browns have had an owner who has any intentions on winning football games. Clevelanders are their own worst enemies because they support their sports teams no matter what, even when owners make no efforts to produce a winning team. Cleveland sports fans sell out all areas and fields without a need to supply the city's fans a winner. We get taken advantage of but that's changing. The OLine is fine we already signed 2 major free agents during this offseason. Duke needs to be used better with throws in the flat, screens, drag routes, basically he is a real threat as a RB/slot WR. Whenever he lines up and is targeted in the slot it's a big gain but the Browns never come back to this strategem. Barnidge dropped a lot of balls last season but was a really good player on bad teams. Kizer is the QB of the future for the Browns.

i like cleveland, but i hate bullish!t. they didn't sell out the indians when they sucked. they didn't sell out when they were in the hunt last year. there were almost as many cubs fans in your park for the WS as indians fans. in 2016, just a seasons ago, they were third from the bottom in the AL. here is a link 2016 Major League Baseball Attendance they were at the bottom of tickets sold and attendance for the last decade. they did not sell out every game last year. before and after labron, the cav's sold nothing. they, like every other fan base, have their moments. the majority of nfl teams sell most of their tickets. the browns sold 97.2% capacity last season, compared to 91%, 90% and 90.3% in the previous three seasons. the real attendance is 2016 NFL Football Attendance - National Football League - ESPN. i don't blame their fans for not showing up. cleveland fans are better than some, but like everyone else, they don't SELL OUT everything. they do suffer more than most. they also complain more than most. they are no different than buffalo, chicago, nyc and every other town wanting to support a winner. revenue sharing and television contracts allow the ownership to survive, not the local support. go Canes

Are U from Cleveland? The point was that Cleveland pay and have paid waaay too much for losing franchises so much so that owning a sports franchise in Cleveland is all reward and no risk due to the religious following of Cleveland fans especially Browns fans. Businessmen are attracted to Cleveland sports team ownership because U can collect but not need to pay out and as long as U supply a team, there isn't enough true demand for a winner. Zero repercussions from the fanbase other than lip service.

All the stats and analytics aside I was just reacting as a lifelong Clevelander to the thread and what I think is a misconception of how and why Cleveland teams don't do well. I've lived here for 38 years, I couldn't careless about the specifics and details of your argument. Cleveland is not everywhere else and that's a fact, U can disagree if U are from Cleveland I'll honor that, but if not like Pac said, "you'd have to be here to know it" in his song "To Live and Die in LA".

my entire family, wife and best friend are from cleveland. i was there this year in columbus (**** osu) and cleveland. respectfully, your pain is not different from any other fan base that hasn't won in forever. cleveland fans are like every other good fan base. i like your new coach a lot. your owner is an as$. i hope you win a Super Bowl. i do get tired of hearing cleveland fans cry. your baseball team was great last season. your cav's won a championship and your football team is getting better.

 

[HarrietTubmanCane]

Thanks for the well wishes! I totally disagree with Us being like everyone else. No other city's lose as much as Us or in the ways in which we lose and have loss historically. I'm not saying we are better fans than anyone, but we are different especially in that we love and are loyal to those who don't feel the same mutually. No other city can claim: the drop, the fumble, the shot, the decision, and the move. Believe me, this is nothing to brag about.

 

[jw410]

Cleveland had a very great draft. They didn't reach on a QB and still got peppers njoku and Garrett and a QB in kizer.

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Still have to win.... rookies qb's don't win in the nfl without vets around them. No offense but Kizer is Tyrod Taylor

 

[Cajuncane]

Thought I saw where the Browns had waived a TE yesterday...making room for Njoku?