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idk about you guys, but it irritates the living **** out of me every ******* time I hear any news about the ******* NCAA. you have enough time to do all these stupid inconsequential changes BUT YOU CAN'T ******* MAKE A RULING THAT'S 3 YEARS IN THE MAKING; AFFECTING AN INSTITUTION & IT'S STUPID ATHLETES? seriously, **** THE NCAA

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Can't wait to watch belabored discussion and countless replays to decide if the ball was spiked in time.
 
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A QB could go under center, snap, and then immediately throw it behind the D-line away from any LB's in under 2s no?
 
I only support this rule if it helps us in any way during a game.. otherwise its the worst rule ever
 
whoisalgolden said:
A QB could go under center, snap, and then immediately throw it behind the D-line away from any LB's in under 2s no?
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intentional grounding unless you run the tight end into the area, but that kind of defeats the purpose because it takes too much time.


the reason that this exists as a rule is because

-the ball has to be marked ready for play and the line has to be set before the ball is snapped
-the minimum time for any play in football is 1 second.

because there is a fraction of a second between the ready for play and the snap, they have to round up to 2 seconds because there is no fractional clock in football. hence, 3 seconds must be on the clock to spike and keep 1 second left at the end of the play.
 
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It came about because of Russell Wilson when he was at Wisconsin. He spiked the ball and they couldnt tell if it were 1 sec or 0 sec so they ended the game.
 
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db305 said:
whoisalgolden said:
A QB could go under center, snap, and then immediately throw it behind the D-line away from any LB's in under 2s no?
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intentional grounding unless you run the tight end into the area, but that kind of defeats the purpose because it takes too much time.


the reason that this exists as a rule is because

-the ball has to be marked ready for play and the line has to be set before the ball is snapped
-the minimum time for any play in football is 1 second.

because there is a fraction of a second between the ready for play and the snap, they have to round up to 2 seconds because there is no fractional clock in football. hence, 3 seconds must be on the clock to spike and keep 1 second left at the end of the play.
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i don't buy it. You can snap right at the ready to play signal, I've seen it happen all the time. And you can snap it and spike it in under a second. Also, you're only thinking about a dead ball play. Let's say there is a handoff or a wr is tackled in bounds with 15 seconds left. No timeouts and the clock is running. The refs have the ball placed at 10 seconds. The offense scrambles to get everyone in place and they do so snapping the ball at 2 seconds left, then spiking it at 1. There is no reason on earth why this play shouldn't be legal.
 
Hurrickaneof83 said:
It came about because of Russell Wilson when he was at Wisconsin. He spiked the ball and they couldnt tell if it were 1 sec or 0 sec so they ended the game.
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So now if you snap it and they can't determine if there were 2 or 3 seconds left, they will end the game. Problem solved!
 
terdferguson said:
db305 said:
whoisalgolden said:
A QB could go under center, snap, and then immediately throw it behind the D-line away from any LB's in under 2s no?
Click to expand...

intentional grounding unless you run the tight end into the area, but that kind of defeats the purpose because it takes too much time.


the reason that this exists as a rule is because

-the ball has to be marked ready for play and the line has to be set before the ball is snapped
-the minimum time for any play in football is 1 second.

because there is a fraction of a second between the ready for play and the snap, they have to round up to 2 seconds because there is no fractional clock in football. hence, 3 seconds must be on the clock to spike and keep 1 second left at the end of the play.
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i don't buy it. You can snap right at the ready to play signal, I've seen it happen all the time. And you can snap it and spike it in under a second. Also, you're only thinking about a dead ball play. Let's say there is a handoff or a wr is tackled in bounds with 15 seconds left. No timeouts and the clock is running. The refs have the ball placed at 10 seconds. The offense scrambles to get everyone in place and they do so snapping the ball at 2 seconds left, then spiking it at 1. There is no reason on earth why this play shouldn't be legal.
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i'm not saying that it doesn't happen all the time, because it definitely does. but by the letter of the law, the minimum time between the spot of the ball and the end of a play is 2 seconds because of the lack of fractional time. i don't like the rule and i think it was fine the way it was, but that's the rationale. now as far as the scenario that you mentioned, which is an extremely common scenario, there is most definitely enough time, which is why i don't like the rule.
 
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