Need to vent a little more about Cuse.

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40 years old and a fan for around 35ish years. Some of my earliest memories are at the OB. Followed all the recruiting and every bit of info I can get ahold of for the last 20 or so. I think this last game was one of the most devastating losses of my entire fandom. Was so excited after all this time to play in some nationally relevant big games at the end of the season. Like we have not done since like 2002. With everything riding on winning against Cuse and to go out and get a 21-0 lead only to blow it like that. Wow. I was not really ready for the season to be over. My mind fully anticipated atleast two more big time games with the prospect of more. Now another offseason full of question marks and concerns about how I can’t say for sure our roster will be this strong going into next season. Just a painful painful one. Wish I could remove the part of my brain that is such a fan of this team. I invest too much emotionally in this program.
 
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I am sad. I am upset about this too! We lost. Off-season comes early this year! The past 20 years has been the worst. I want out but I'm in too deep. Maybe the playoff committee will give us one more chance. I can only hope. Honestly it's less devastating to have my hopes in the committee than imagining having them in Mario. Inside things just hurt. No good!
 
It made me physically feel badly. I always knew we coukd lose, but i felt like we would be focused and win a Lville type game.

To get out 21-0 then outscored 42-17 was shocking and now season to be potentially over happened so fast. I got double whammied because i live near Clemson wife is a grad so they were obviously happy at Miamis fails. Just gross
 
Yeah Saturday’s loss really hurt. The issues on defense have been obvious all season, but there was always a part of me that believed they would still pull it off (especially knowing the stakes of the game). Not putting any time or energy into whether or not we make the CFP until they make the official selections, but knowing we will likely be one of the first out when this year was our best chance yet between having Cam + 12 teams making it definitely makes things hurt a tad more.
 
Ha Good - this feels like a safe space.

I had to step out for a minute when we were up big - I thought fk this is fine we are killing them...

Got back to 35-28 and still can't really figure out wtf happened.
 
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Mario doesn’t get gameday coaching and he never will. When we were up 21-7, it was crucial to get a few first downs and slow the game down. Every few first downs is one less possession for SU. You have 2 to 4 very good RB and an advantage on the OL, it wasn’t hard. Again, he’s a .500 coach, that’s his record and these are the decisions that lead to it over time.
 
Mario doesn’t get gameday coaching and he never will. When we were up 21-7, it was crucial to get a few first downs and slow the game down. Every few first downs is one less possession for SU. You have 2 to 4 very good RB and an advantage on the OL, it wasn’t hard. Again, he’s a .500 coach, that’s his record and these are the decisions that lead to it over time.

This is so dumb. No disrespect, but come on. If we just ran the ball and slowed the game down and punted and Cuse came back and we lost, can you imagine this board? We’d be outside his house with pitchforks. And rightfully so. It was the early 2nd quarter. You don’t just change what you’ve done all year. Come on, man. We lost, we’re all hurt, but this **** is harmful.

Mario gave the offense over to Cam and Dawson this year. The result? The #1 offense in the country. We came out in this game and Cam had something like 150 yards in the first quarter, and we jumped up 21-0. You want them to just go into a shell after that? With this defense? I’d be at Mario’s throat had they done that.

There’s plenty to be ****ed about, but let’s not Monday morning quarterback this thing into fantasy land.
 
It’s the fact that we finally had a genuinely elite side of the ball. Which we haven’t had in over 20 years. A complete disaster and Guidry never TRYING to change anything and play just anything more base to keep things in front of them will forever be a major blunder of epic proportions.
 
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This is so dumb. No disrespect, but come on. If we just ran the ball and slowed the game down and punted and Cuse came back and we lost, can you imagine this board? We’d be outside his house with pitchforks. And rightfully so. It was the early 2nd quarter. You don’t just change what you’ve done all year. Come on, man. We lost, we’re all hurt, but this **** is harmful.

Mario gave the offense over to Cam and Dawson this year. The result? The #1 offense in the country. We came out in this game and Cam had something like 150 yards in the first quarter, and we jumped up 21-0. You want them to just go into a shell after that? With this defense? I’d be at Mario’s throat had they done that.

There’s plenty to be ****ed about, but let’s not Monday morning quarterback this thing into fantasy land.
I will say that was probably one of the more important drives of season and was disappointed we went Lyle, Mccormick, Brown sequence for three and out. I was interested to see why we have 2nd qtr lulls and we did not go to the guys who were cooking 1st qtr. Tha wasnt the time to get guys reps. I dont think martinez touched ball in 2nd, George had like 100 yards in 1st, stick to gameplan! Ride Restrepo, George, Arroyo, this was our season!
 
40 years old and a fan for around 35ish years. Some of my earliest memories are at the OB. Followed all the recruiting and every bit of info I can get ahold of for the last 20 or so. I think this last game was one of the most devastating losses of my entire fandom. Was so excited after all this time to play in some nationally relevant big games at the end of the season. Like we have not done since like 2002. With everything riding on winning against Cuse and to go out and get a 21-0 lead only to blow it like that. Wow. I was not really ready for the season to be over. My mind fully anticipated atleast two more big time games with the prospect of more. Now another offseason full of question marks and concerns about how I can’t say for sure our roster will be this strong going into next season. Just a painful painful one. Wish I could remove the part of my brain that is such a fan of this team. I invest too much emotionally in this program.
Buddy....couldn't have said it better myself. Sometimes I wish I didn't have such a love for this program but it is what it is. Not over yet....Go Ponies!
 
Mario doesn’t get gameday coaching and he never will. When we were up 21-7, it was crucial to get a few first downs and slow the game down. Every few first downs is one less possession for SU. You have 2 to 4 very good RB and an advantage on the OL, it wasn’t hard. Again, he’s a .500 coach, that’s his record and these are the decisions that lead to it over time.
Just an ignorant post. Lets parrot a narrative. We lost becaue our DBs got obliterated in coverage. Nothing to do with Mario's gameday coachjng.
 
Some of you weren’t paying attention this season if you think the loss was that bad. This was a flawed team that was barely getting by. Heck, we were down at the half against Duke. I was gutted too but not surprised. This was coming. I was hopeful it’d be later but knew this was in the cards.
 
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Some of you weren’t paying attention this season if you think the loss was that bad. This was a flawed team that was barely getting by. Heck, we were down at the half against Duke. I was gutted too but not surprised. This was coming. I was hopeful it’d be later but knew this was in the cards.
No one, and I mean NO ONE, thought we’d go undefeated. There were different opinions on who we’d lose to but most EVERYONE thought we’d have 2-3 losses including myself.

Now most are all in their feels because we actually did lose 2.

I also don’t believe anyone thought SMU would go 11-1. That’s really the outlier here.
 
This is so dumb. No disrespect, but come on. If we just ran the ball and slowed the game down and punted and Cuse came back and we lost, can you imagine this board? We’d be outside his house with pitchforks. And rightfully so. It was the early 2nd quarter. You don’t just change what you’ve done all year. Come on, man. We lost, we’re all hurt, but this **** is harmful.

Mario gave the offense over to Cam and Dawson this year. The result? The #1 offense in the country. We came out in this game and Cam had something like 150 yards in the first quarter, and we jumped up 21-0. You want them to just go into a shell after that? With this defense? I’d be at Mario’s throat had they done that.

There’s plenty to be ****ed about, but let’s not Monday morning quarterback this thing into fantasy land.
It was a combination of the play calling and personnel packages. Martinez would have had 11-140+ if not for the bs flag. They couldn’t stop him and wanted nothing to do with tackling him. He sat the 2nd and half of the 3rd quarter. Then for those 2 drives we stopped targeting X, Arroyo, and JG (who had 120 yards at that point. Really made no sense as to why you would go away from what was working. That 4th drive took the air right out of the balloon.
 
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I will say that was probably one of the more important drives of season and was disappointed we went Lyle, Mccormick, Brown sequence for three and out. I was interested to see why we have 2nd qtr lulls and we did not go to the guys who were cooking 1st qtr. Tha wasnt the time to get guys reps. I dont think martinez touched ball in 2nd, George had like 100 yards in 1st, stick to gameplan! Ride Restrepo, George, Arroyo, this was our season!
This. All of this.

We couldn’t be stopped on offense and this has been the common theme with that exact timeframe all season

I lost my **** when Lyle was out there and then seeing Brown as well. Absolutely maddening. The **** are we rotating for when it’s potentially the last game of the season?
 
I will say that was probably one of the more important drives of season and was disappointed we went Lyle, Mccormick, Brown sequence for three and out. I was interested to see why we have 2nd qtr lulls and we did not go to the guys who were cooking 1st qtr. Tha wasnt the time to get guys reps. I dont think martinez touched ball in 2nd, George had like 100 yards in 1st, stick to gameplan! Ride Restrepo, George, Arroyo, this was our season!

This I can agree with. Although, remember, exactly one week prior, this entire board was saying Lyle was our best back, he's "got the juice", Martinez and Fletcher are too slow, we need to get Lyle more touches in the first half, etc. etc. The coaches agreed. He played the 4th and 5th drives of the game.

At that point:

Martinez had 4 carries for 36 yards
Fletcher had 7 for 28 yards and a TD

And let's not pretend like we went away from Restrepo.

Again, on the 4th drive, we did go 3 and out.

But on the 5th drive, Restrepo caught a 25 yard pass on the first play. And we went to him on 3rd down before the punt.

If you want to nitpick anything, maybe it's Lyle in the game for those 2 drives. We only ran 7 total plays on those 2 drives, and Lyle got 2 carries to Fletcher & Martinez's zero. The game went from 21-0 to 21-14. But we had 5 drives, and we scored 21 points. That's 4.2 points per drive. Right now, Miami is #1 in the entire country in points per drive for the season, at 3.84. So we're #1 in America, and the first half was BETTER than our season average. Yeah, I'm not gonna nitpick the offense. The problem was, as usual, the defense was atrocious, and of course we fumbled AND they return it for a touchdown. We have now allowed at least 4 non-offensive touchdowns that I can remember (kick returns against Louisville and Wake, pick 6 against Cal, fumble for a TD against Syracuse). I think we've scored one (Louisville fumble in the endzone).

But again, in the 2nd half, Cuse got the ball 5 times, and scored 3 touchdowns....and really the last drive they weren't even trying to score. So they put up the same numbers in the second half that we did in the first half, which is 21 points on 5 drives, again that would be the BEST IN THE COUNTRY for a season. And one of those drives, they weren't even trying, they were just bleeding clock.

You score 38 points and gain 500+ yards of offense on the road, you expect to win a football game. Period.

And all of this to say, yes, if we want to nitpick Lyle in the game or maybe a Sam Brown target, OK. But what we're not gonna do is come here and say we should have gone up 21-0 and tried to bleed clock and run the ball and shorten the game, etc. That's insanity. We're not Georgia Tech or a service academy. Our quarterback is a Heisman finalist. If anything, we should have been MORE aggressive and known our defense was a sieve, so just go fast and tell Dawson you have to score on every single drive or we're gonna lose.
 
So you like him kicking a field goal with our defense on scates?
I wouldnt have kicked it, but I also dont think we would have gotten it, and I dont think our defense would have gotten a stop.

I would have kicked FGs in GT game, its one game where Mario relied on analytics not feel.

In a game with limited possessions and
GT ball control offense, we needed to get points on every possession possible. It wasnt a track meet type game like Lousiville where you needed TDs.

I thought Mario gameday coaching was good all season. One game i had issue was the GT game, but no coach is perfect obviously.
 
All great stuff.

Great coaches can slow down everything in their mind, think clearly and break down every situation. Up 21-7, that 3 and out changed everything.

Most coached arent great though, they lose control so easily
 
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