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Myth Busters: Lack of NFL Talent

TheEye said:
University of Southern California is an even better example. They have fired better coaches than most programs can even hire. Take a look at the culture that Los Angeles has. Ask yourself just how bad were the hires of: Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian, Ed Orgeron and now Lincoln Riley?
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No they’re not for multiple reasons b/c

1. They’ve won their conference multiple times since 2004

2. Won their division multiple times since 2004

3. They’ve won. 10+ multiple times since 2004

4. They’ve won multiple NY6 bowl games since 2004

We’re in a class of our own.
 

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Rellyrell said:
No they’re not for multiple reasons b/c

1. They’ve won their conference multiple times since 2004

2. Won their division multiple times since 2004

3. They’ve won. 10+ multiple times since 2004

4. They won multiple NY6 bowl games since 2004

We’re in a class of our own.
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Did you factor in that they are a private school?
 
Rellyrell said:
No they’re not for multiple reasons b/c

1. They’ve won their conference multiple times since 2004

2. Won their division multiple times since 2004

3. They’ve won. 10+ multiple times since 2004

4. They’ve won multiple NY6 bowl games since 2004

We’re in a class of our own.
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We love comparing ourselves to other big time programs that had previous success, but have now underachieved in the last 20+ years. I’m guilty of that as well sometimes.

I don’t know if it’s to soften the blow of our poor performance or deflect from our own deficiencies. Kind of like justifying our mediocrity. “School A and B haven’t been good in 20 years, so we aren’t the only ones.” I’m not saying majority of our fans do this, but I have seen it on occasion. It is an interesting topic of conversation to see how other schools have fell off, I just don’t like using their lack of success to justify our lack of success.

USC, Nebraska, Texas, and Tennessee are the usual suspects, although both UT’s have experienced a lot more success the last few years. As you pointed out with USC, they have clearly had more success than us since 2004. Stinks, but we are in a class of our own.
 
Stats02 said:
We love comparing ourselves to other big time programs that had previous success, but have now underachieved in the last 20+ years. I’m guilty of that as well sometimes.

I don’t know if it’s to soften the blow of our poor performance or deflect from our own deficiencies. Kind of like justifying our mediocrity. “School A and B haven’t been good in 20 years, so we aren’t the only ones.” I’m not saying majority of our fans do this, but I have seen it on occasion. It is an interesting topic of conversation to see how other schools have fell off, I just don’t like using their lack of success to justify our lack of success.

USC, Nebraska, Texas, and Tennessee are the usual suspects, although both UT’s have experienced a lot more success the last few years. As you pointed out with USC, they have clearly had more success than us since 2004. Stinks, but we are in a class of our own.
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Misery loves company!
 
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Rellyrell said:
No they’re not for multiple reasons b/c

1. They’ve won their conference multiple times since 2004

2. Won their division multiple times since 2004

3. They’ve won. 10+ multiple times since 2004

4. They’ve won multiple NY6 bowl games since 2004

We’re in a class of our own.
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Give them a couple of years and see where they stand. Our last NC winning coach was Larry Coker. Theirs was Pete Carol.

How many Conference Championships has USC won since then? National Titles? 10+ games?

The numbers since their NC coach left are quite comparable to ours BUT the difference between us is, they got those numbers using Lane Kiffin, Ed Orgeron, Steve Sarkisian and now Lincoln Riley. Where did these coaches excel? Away from major urban environments.
 
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