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Monday Recruiting Chatter - 12/17

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I dont want to hear any talk about bags. Freakin Stanford and Arizona State are ahead of us along with Purdue. I'm gonna puke
 
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Cane from Italy said:
Ivins and Stefan.

I can't read Canesport.
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Ivins and Stefan disagree about the Lakeland duo rn. Ivins for now is riding with his pick for Zipperer and thinks Summerall might be a package deal although he is not sure thats the case and he has not put in a crystal ball for him
 
NJshoreCane said:
How fast do do slow play a recruit to keep him from thinking he's being slow played?
We get crucified locally if we stay on a kid, then dump him.
What was Bama's position on Bogle last week?
They can do that, but we can't?.....so it seems.
Don't now why.

I'm not defending anything.
There's NO excuse for anything less than a top-10 class.
Those are real questions that I have.
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Because they're one of the best college football dynasties of all time and we just went 7-5....
 
NJshoreCane said:
How fast do do slow play a recruit to keep him from thinking he's being slow played?
We get crucified locally if we stay on a kid, then dump him.
What was Bama's position on Bogle last week?
They can do that, but we can't?.....so it seems.
Don't now why.

I'm not defending anything.
There's NO excuse for anything less than a top-10 class.
Those are real questions that I have.
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IMHO you do not slow play anyone but instead you over recruit the position.

The problem with Dixon, Gordon, Brown ecc ecc is that you slow played them because you trusted the words of Brucelee and Solomen.

You. Can,'t. trust. anyone.

So you recruit as you have 0 commits.
 
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Stefan Adams said:
Miami had over 20 official visitors this weekend, which may have been the largest recruiting weekend in terms of official visitors in Miami history. About half of those were current commits that are all locked in with the Canes, so for this update, I’m going to focus just on the targets that were on campus: S Tyrique Stevenson, DE Khris Bogle, TE Keon Zipperer, DE Lloyd Summerall, WR John Dunmore, OT Adam ElGammal, S Martin Emerson, and DT Jared Harrison-Hunte, in addition to transfer targets RB Asa Martin and OT Tommy Kennedy.


**On Stevenson: The visit went very well for Stevenson and I’m told Miami still feels they have a great shot to land him, but I did not hear the one thing I was looking to hear. The one key for getting Stevenson to Miami has always been getting his mom on board with UM, as she’s been steering him to UGA for a while now. So that’s really what I wanted to hear about after the visit: How does mom feel about UM now? While I’m told she did love the visit, she still wants her son at UGA. Things could change in the next few days as we hit the home stretch, and I’ll keep my ear to the ground, but that’s why I can’t feel comfortable picking Miami as of right now.


**On Bogle: The Canes also feel confident on signing Bogle, but with Kayvon Thibodeau now at Oregon, the Cardinal Gibbons star is going to get the full court press by Alabama. I still have Miami out in front, and the good news is that the dead period will be in effect from now until Bogle makes his decision on Jan. 5th, so Alabama won’t be able to get him on campus or have any kind of face-to-face contact. However, when Nick Saban is involved, it’s never over, so we’ll continue to monitor and see if anything develops further with Bogle and the Tide.


**On Zipperer and Summerall: The buzz here had been trending in Miami’s direction for a few weeks now, but like I’ve alluded to in the past, I believe the Lakeland duo are misleading people as to their intentions to drum up suspense for their announcement and it will be hard to really get an accurate read on this recruitment. For what it’s worth, one source close to Summerall that previously felt that Miami was out in front changed their tune this weekend and is now telling me the pick is likely to be UF.


**On Dunmore: Sources close to Dunmore told me early last week that he was set to Penn State and wouldn’t take any other visits. However, Dunmore ended up making the visit to UM this weekend against the protests of the Penn State coaching staff; James Franklin came for an in-home visit with Dunmore to specifically try and convince him not to visit Miami. I’m told Dunmore loved his UM visit and is now torn as to what his final decision should be. While I’d still pick Penn State until hearing otherwise, the Nittany Lions’ staff has to be feeling a little nervous at this point.


**On Kennedy and Martin: As I said last week, sources felt good that Kennedy and Martin would be Hurricanes and I picked UM for both. I have heard nothing coming out of the weekend to make me change my mind on that.


**On ElGammal: Like I said in Zion Nelson’s commitment post last week, I’m still not sure ElGammal is a take for Miami now that Nelson is a part of the class, although I know ElGammal would love to be. Since he’s not signing early as of now, Miami has a little more time to make that decision.


**On Emerson: This is a two-team race between Miami and Mississippi State and Emerson isn’t signing early, which only aids UM in their flip efforts. Emerson told CIS that he feels making his primary recruiter (coach Ephraim Banda) the new co-DC at Miami actually increased UM’s chances to land him. I’d put it at 50-50 right now that Emerson ends up a Hurricane, with the momentum currently residing with Miami.


**On Harrison-Hunte: While Harrison-Hunte enjoyed his visit, a source close to the recruitment is not confident in Miami’s chances here, but says the Canes are still in the game. The good thing is that Miami still has a chance to make up more ground, as Harrison-Hunte isn’t signing until February as of now.


**A little bonus: on 3-star corner John Dixon, I was told by a source that Miami does not expect him in this class and has begun preparing contingency plans. UM is evaluating Colquitt County (GA) 3-star corner Jay Ward for an offer; Ward is currently not planning on signing early, and has only taken one official visit so far (to LSU). FSU got involved with the 6’1” 175 pound prospect just last week, and Ward also has other offers from Ohio State, Kentucky, and WVU. It’s too early to tell if Ward will be receptive to Miami interest or not.
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Are you ****** with me on this one here or is there really a kid named elgammal were after that isn't a take because our #7billion rated 2 star flip from app state lineman makes him irrelevant? Lord how the mighty have crumbled... wouldnt count on dunmore I don't think. But it's just a guess
 
TOcane said:
This is true, from what we were reading last night it sounded like we made headway with Rique's mom. As of this morning we didn't?
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Yea "The Hurricanes came into the visit knowing that they needed to win mom over and some think the coaches might have done just that." were the exact words used. So obviously a case of conflicting sources.
 
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BostonCane said:
Serious question. Do have faith that the Canes will ever lock down SFL? And i dont mean get everyone because its impossible. Im talking about atleast locking down the the #1 prospect every year in SFL and getting %75 of the other top prospects down here.
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My answer is no.

But 15-20 pro's come out of the area every year.
If we got 75% of them we would basically be a semi-pro team.

Great thought for a Monday morning.
 
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Cuban-Cane said:
Ivins and Stefan disagree about the Lakeland duo rn. Ivins for now is riding with his pick for Zipperer and thinks Summerall might be a package deal although he is not sure thats the case and he has not put in a crystal ball for him
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They agree on all the others, and on the Lakeland duo nobody knows since they're trolling everyone since months.
 
Cuban-Cane said:
Yea "The Hurricanes came into the visit knowing that they needed to win mom over and some think the coaches might have done just that." were the exact words used. So obviously a case of conflicting sources.
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And he has Stevenson CBd to UGA still
 
Cane from Italy said:
IMHO you do not slow play anyone but instead you over recruit the position.

The problem with Dixon, Gordon, Brown ecc ecc is that you slow played them because you trusted the words of Brucelee and Solomen.

You. Can,'t. trust. anyone.

So you recruit as you have 0 commits.
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Then you have to dump guys.
Then there is the blow back.
 
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dsddcane said:
Are you ****** with me on this one here or is there really a kid named elgammal were after that isn't a take because our #7billion rated 2 star flip from app state lineman makes him irrelevant? Lord how the mighty have crumbled... wouldnt count on dunmore I don't think. But it's just a guess
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This is very troubling indeed. The staff is holding out hope that Neal announces for Miami on Wednesday (he's going to Bama). I could understand taking Nelson regardless where you have a project that you stash away for a few years and develop. But this makes no sense. In a situation where we need to load up on talent and bring in tackles, we're content on bringing in an under-sized 2 star that we flipped from App State.
 
The Franchise said:
His juice with the moms disappeared when he went from boyish good looks and suaveness to doddering old Wilfred Brimley looking fool who can’t remember her son’s name.
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The Franchise said:
His juice with the moms disappeared when he went from boyish good looks and suaveness to doddering old Wilfred Brimley looking fool who can’t remember her son’s name.
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So he really has morphed into his Mentor Bobby Bowden.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. I feel like we will hit on half these kids with some surprises coming our way. Everyone is so negative on this board. Thank god there are other boards in which people are interpreting what the insider says as positive news.

Let's see how it plays out and no matter the outcome, one bad year in recruiting and on the field play does not mean the death of a program. Especially not after we had two really good recruiting classes the previous two years. We can easily rebound next year on a schedule that sets up nicely for us which will in turn give us some momentum to finish strong with the 2020 class.

I will agree though that we do need to start to close on some of these 5* kids. If we don't sign Stevenson/Hasselwood I will feel like we spent a ton of energy and resources for no reason.

Next year is huge for Richt and his staff. We need to see massive improvement not only on the field but also in terms of recruiting. While I feel like Banda/Patke have done average this year (if Stevenson, Bogle, etc. sign I will up this grade to above average) we are letting way too many talented kids leave our backyard. If we have another mediocre year and we follow up with a class in the 20's, It will prove that Richt needs to be shown the door. But I have faith and that faith comes from believing that other teams on our schedule will be weaker next year then this year and that we still out talent all the coastal teams with the players we put on the field. It may not mean crap but that is where my faith comes from.

GO CANES!!!!
 
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Cane from Italy said:
They agree on all the others, and on the Lakeland duo nobody knows since they're trolling everyone since months.
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I don't know how anyone with one functioning brain cell would argue on the Lakeland duo. Those two have perfected trolling and not showing their cards. I'm not even mad because they were so good at it this cycle. So anyone clinging onto Stefan or Ivin's words need to have their heads examined (Stefan admitted he doesn't know where they're going to go).
 
Cane from Italy said:
And he has Stevenson CBd to UGA still
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Yeah because he said in his own article because he does not want to be constantly flip flopping but regrets placing it on UGA in the first place. That does not sound like someone who is sure about his pick. This is not a Tyson Campbell shoe in situation. I trust @Cribby #rideordie.
 
Cane from Italy said:
And he has Stevenson CBd to UGA still
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"I'm just trying not to be wrong. I have been saying for months that I wished I hadn't moved it off Miami in the first place. That's still the case. I just don't want to be that guy that changes his projections multiple times."
 
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