Monday Recruiting Chatter - 12/17

[orange&green84]

Cars =/= running a multi million dollar program with teenagers.

You failed to grasp the analogy. I don't have the football knowledge of Nick Saban, ****, I don't even have @Roman Marciante knowledge of the game. But you'd have to be the homerest homer to think that we're trending in the right direction and everything's fine.

 

[orange&green84]

Thanks for the insight.

You're welcome

 

[g8rh8rMD]

We ******?

#watchthefinish

#nopants

#mybodyisready

Oh fvck it:

 

[Torocane]

Fans say give out more offers. Coaches give out more offers. Coaches push out commits of extra offers that they wouldn't usally offer otherwise. Complain with out context, complain after the fact.

Except not one single fan has said give out more offers to players that can’t play here and get processed out.
Fan do want more offers to players that are takes reguardless.
But nice try.

 

[TRick72]

I dont want to hear any talk about bags. Freakin Stanford and Arizona State are ahead of us along with Purdue. I'm gonna puke

Agreed. Bags are real but this goes way beyond bags.

 

[caneaddict]

lol only Miami has one of their alumni take a player from Bama, who never loses, that facilitates bama poaching us

 

[Ethnicsands]

“Contingency plan” in UM football recruiting means total panic. Bobyonce Knowles, Terrence Henley, James King, Junior Alexis, Corey King...This is what contingencies are at UM.

Tre Johnson. Tyreic Martin.

Darius Smith. Antonio Kinard. Dequan Ivery. Danny Dillard. Jawand Blue. Jacoby Briscoe. Joe Brown. Marques Gayot. Jahair Jones. Evan Shirreffs. Robert Knowles.

Billy Sanders. Jermaine Johnson. Jeffrey Brown. Delmar Taylor. Asante Cleveland. Jermaine Barton. Kelvin Cain. Keion Payne.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

Cooney better hear it too for this fail of recruiting

 

[canesbaby]

Cooney better hear it too for this fail of recruiting

Everything needs to be re-evaluated after this cycle. Let's see if it actually happens.

 

[PSU Cane]

This has nothing to do with DC. UGA doesn't even have a DC.

Sure they do - Kirby Smart.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Cooney better hear it too for this fail of recruiting

Dude has nothing to sell.

Since Randy the program has deluded itself into thinking it could hold So Fla kids by hiring some local Hs coaches into support positions to surround a crap corching staff. It’s not a viable strategy amd as the brand becomes more and more irrelevant, it will just get worse.

You cannot win in CFB wothout a talented coaching staff. UM fans who think the rules apply differently to us are just wrong. Obviously wrong.

 

[g8rh8rMD]

Cooney better hear it too for this fail of recruiting

I can't blame Cooney for this. Dude may as well be trying to sell timeshares in ISIS controlled Anbar Province.

This program causes more loose stool than WOW! Chips (remember those?). Some products just can't be sold, no matter how good the salesman.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I don’t know if they are the right guys or not but it was definitely a short sighted attempt to save this class. If Richt was a “upper echelon CEO” and he really thought this was the best move, he would have been proactive. He would have released a statement on the Wednesday when it was all but a done deal that Manny was leaving essentially saying “we don’t know if it’s going to happen or not but if it does we have a contingency plan in place”.

Then the moment Manny informs them he’s leaving, he would have announced Banda and Patke were taking over. Instead he has no plan in place, announces they are hiring a National Search Firm, which if true should have been hired on the Monday when Manny interviewed to get a feel of available coaches, then only to panick when some decommitments start rolling in and promotes these guys. I still had hopes CMR could be an effective HC in the role of CEO but effective CEO’s are proactive not reactive. The way he handled this situation, as well as many others this offseason give me little faith he can even be a mediocre CEO.

Richt has crawled into a shell the way gluten spree did back when.

 

[Invalid Username]

Almost feels like our coaches have some type of fake Miami tough guy ego where they just assume we land everyone

 

[Torocane]

Then you have to dump guys.
Then there is the blow back.

Kids are not that clever.
They telegraph when the are going to flip. Everyone knows the kid is going to flip except our coaches. That’s obviously because the don’t really begin to recruit the replacement until the kid actually decommits. You have to be smarter than the 17 year old you are recruiting. If the kid is telegraphing that he is shaky and will probably decommit start recruiting his replacement as soon as he starts giving you the signs.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Let's see.....

- Nepotism - hiring a QB coach that doesn't have a resume to be a Div1 QB coach. Yet he's in charge of QB development
- Archaic scheme - Richt identified that his plays worked 30 years ago and that it's the players not executing that's the problems. Golden did the same exact thing at Miami with his defense where it took every single person executing his defense for it to work. Golden ran an archaic scheme that didn't fit the talent that exists in Miami. Richt runs outdated concepts that has been mentioned ad nauseam on this board as well as dissected by @Roman Marciante . Also, watch the GT game and you'll see Dan Orlovsky go in dry on Richt's offense. Also, I'd advise you watch the bowl game because Orlovsky's going to call that game as well; willing to bet he makes mention of Richt's archaic offense again.
- Recruiting practices are horrid at Miami. This staff consistently doesn't know how to read recruits and is consistently found unprepared and scrambling. They think that kids won't look around and don't continue to recruit the position. They get a commit, and shut recruiting down for that position.
- Coaches calling out players. Thomas Brown calling players cancers, which of whom you actually recruited is a huge indictment on the staff. Those are your guys and you foster the locker room environment.
- Lackluster hires and an unwillingness to evaluate the program: Patke and Banda were hires specifically to help salvage a (already dwindling) recruiting class. These kids that are so happy Banda's going to remain on staff as a co-DC, will be the same ones that likely go elsewhere. Richt has consistently had porous special teams and lack of development on the OL. Waiting to see what we do with the extra staff position and if ST duties are handed over to the new staff member. But Searles still has a job, he shouldn't. And the extra staff position should be going to a full fledged OC.
- Playing experience over talent: We saw Knowles getting snaps over Hall at the beginning of the year. We saw Rosier get a much longer leash than Perry; we didn't even get a chance to see Williams get snaps this season outside of Savannah State. Richt mismanaged the QB room as much as any coach in the nation. He didn't even take advantage of the new red-shirt rule.

Shall I go on?

Yep. It’s painful to watch the same mistakes getting made over and over again. This one is obvious.

 

[Torocane]

Almost feels like our coaches have some type of fake Miami tough guy ego where they just assume we land everyone

No they are just gullible

 

[supersaiyanshel]

I dont believe that there is a coach out there that Richt could hire that could save this class. This recruiting class and all these decomittments is because of Richt not Manny leaving. Ask yourself if Venables left Clemson would they have this problem? No because kids believe in Dabo same with Smart at Uga. Tucker is leaving but are they losing recruits?

You nailed it. There's no excitement around the program and it's all on the HC. These kids aren't blind or deaf. You have a guy on live TV literally saying we don't need explosive plays. Doesnt matter what the context was. Who wants to be a part of that ???

The infuriating thing is he knows what's happening and why, but has no desire to address any of it.

 

[Ethnicsands]

Almost feels like our coaches have some type of fake Miami tough guy ego where they just assume we land everyone

That assumption will be dispensed with shortly.

Can’t wait for the press conference quotes:

- we got some great kids
- we missed on some, but you never win them all
- lots of negative recruiting
- we had such a good class last year, some kids were afraid to come in and compete
- when you lose a key staff member in the middle of recruiting, that can impact recruiting
- blah
- blah
- blah

 

[Ethnicsands]

You nailed it. There's no excitement around the program and it's all on the HC. These kids aren't blind. The infuriating thing is he knows what's happening and why, but has no desire to address any of it.

Yep. Richt aspires to have a program full of kids who like him for who he is. He’s like a needy chick.