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Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
 
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By the way, I also agree with the idea that a team should build toward its strengths. South Florida strength is speed, fast twitch, instinct.

I'd run a one gap man coverage base for sure. But a 3-4 CAN be done if we just stick with ONLY the 3-4.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
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3-4 is primarily a 2 gap scheme. You can run it 1 gap but I'm pretty sure it's rare. Someone who knows better than me should probably chime in.
 
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BigCaneAl said:
Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
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One gap 3-4's are less common but definitely a major defensive style. The Houston Texans run this exact defense.

The defense we run as our base is NOT what Golden ran at UVA. It is a combo of the defensive front of Parcells and the coverage shells of Sandusky. And it doesn't work very well.
 
McGahee2TheHouse said:
BigCaneAl said:
Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
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3-4 is primarily a 2 gap scheme. You can run it 1 gap but I'm pretty sure it's rare. Someone who knows better than me should probably chime in.
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If so I don't want London...like golden showers said above we need to change the fundamental nature of our defense. I don't think it fits the culture of South Florida football.
 
I really wish we had a way to get these questions/discussion in front of Golden and hear what he has to say
 
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GoldenShowers said:
BigCaneAl said:
Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
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One gap 3-4's are less common but definitely a major defensive style. The Houston Texans run this exact defense.

The defense we run as our base is NOT what Golden ran at UVA. It is a combo of the defensive front of Parcells and the coverage shells of Sandusky. And it doesn't work very well.
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Can you shed some light on what he ran at UVA? I know a lot of people point to our current scheme and attribute it to Golden....you're saying this isn't necessarily the case?
 
Andrew said:
Please no one that coached with Al Groh.
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No offense intended, Drew, but this is an extremely uninformed post. Al Groh has always been an extremely well regarded tactician and coach. The entire coaching community speaks highly of him in that regard. Although Ive heard he can kind of s **** and very hard to work for. That's why assistants dont stay with him too long.


As for the OP, I think Mike London would be just about the best possible scenario to replace coach D.
 
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We'd be better off with NO DC than with Coach D.

Just tell the players, "Go out there, knock some heads off, everyone hit someone, get the damned ball, and just have fun."

Guarantee, we'd do much, much better than if Coach D is running things.
 
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McGahee2TheHouse said:
JHallCanes said:
McGahee2TheHouse said:
JHallCanes said:
McGahee2TheHouse said:
No. **** the 3-4 because if anything is obvious by now, it's that the 3-4 doesn't work here.
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I very rarely disagree with you man but I think it's too soon for that. If you consider the types of guys we are recruiting, and have recruited on D, I think a versatile 3-4 could work pretty well.

I don't know what the **** I'm looking at right now though. Not a ******* clue.
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Anything that requires us to play gap control isn't going to work, IMO. I don't mind you disagreeing with me because you have actual arguments.
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I gotta say though, I don't really have a counterpoint to stand on. I don't trust this ******* guy in charge of our D one bit. To sit there and talk about how we are still cutting guys loose and missing tackles tells me he isn't teaching these guys ****.
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To your recruiting argument: yeah we have some studs on the DL in this class...did they play gap control in high school? I am legitimately asking because I dunno. If they didn't then I just don't see them coming here and reaching their peak. It's literally a lifetime of coaching you are trying to reverse in a matter of a few years. It defies logic (to me)
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Alabama, Stanford and a bunch of colleges run the 3-4, so do NFL teams. It's not exactly rocket science, and it helps every player's draft stock, which means more money for them. It just means some freshies might struggle and have to RS.
 
BigCaneAl said:
Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
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The 3-4 is not a one scheme one gap defense, its like saying all 4-3's are the same, there are different varieties and versions.
 
Bob Diaco runs a 1-gap 3-4 at Notre Dame.

BigCaneAl said:
Someone enlighten me....is the 3-4 fundamentally a 2 gap scheme or can you run a 1 gap attacking 3-4. My worry is London is from the same school as Golden and would run the same garbage being run here now.
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I'm Hurt Dawg said:
He runs an aggressive for 3-4.

From canesmang1

In 2006, London was named by Virginia coach Al Groh as the team's new defensive coordinator to replace Al Golden. Virginia's defense under London was much more aggressive than it was under Golden.[3] Allowing just 289.5 yards per game, the Virginia defense under London gave up fewer yards than any Virginia defense had in the past 27 years. London developed first year defensive end Jeffrey Fitzgerald, who by the end of the season had more tackles than any freshman in the country. The Cavaliers finished the season ranked 6th in the nation in sacks with 40, and allowed the 19th-fewest rushing yards (106.7 yds/game) and the 16th-fewest points against (19.7/game) on the way to a 9-win season and a narrow loss to Texas Tech and Heisman Trophy candidate Michael Crabtree in the Gator Bowl.[5] At the end of the season, lineman Chris Long won the Ted Hendricks Award and was drafted second overall in the 2008 NFL Draft.
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Pros- Will get a bunch of recruits from the 757 and everyone loves him in the 757
#1 DT Andrew Brown and #1 safety Blanding would give a strong look. Valentine and Brown would be amazing.
Next year top DT Tim Settle and #1 athlete Jaason Lewis

Keeps Blanding and Brown away from FSU and Uncle Odell

Cons
Everyone in the 757 loves so Virginia might fire him because of it.
1 year as DC
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TAKE HIM NOW - PLEASE
 
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