Middle Linebacker

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Would anybody be for putting Darrion Owens at middle linebacker? With Young off the team and Grace and Pinckney on the outsides that leaves Owens in a bad spot and he's a **** good player from what I've seen. Would rather get him on the field at middle linebacker than see another Golden special hit the field (Jamie Gordiner)

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That's about as good as it gets in gif selection and placement. Shaq giving Cane901 the stink eye.
 
If Owens is healthy the LBs will most likely be Owens(Will), Shaq(Mike) and Grace(Sam). Pinckney looks like he will backup up Owens at Will with Gordinier backing up Shaq at Mike and McCloud backing up Grace at Sam. They will all play a ton and in Diaz's defense the Sam and Mike positions are interchangeable and are both treated as inside LBs.


I know we are all ready to put the Golden era far behind but that doesn't mean that all of the kids he recruited can't play. Look at Njoku. My point is that Gordinier may be a player. Barring injury however I don't expect the kid to ever start since Shaq should be cemented into the MLB spot and I think McCloud and Pinckney have much higher ceilings.
I really don't think Gordinier is a player at all tbh

What exactly do you base that on?

Melanin level.
 
Because he's slow, his high school film isn't impressive, his offer list contained no big schools, and he was recruited by Al Golden out of New Jersey. Anything else I missed?

So basically because he's white and not from South Florida, got it.... Njoku and AQM are from NJ as well but I guess because they're not white, it's ok. The coaches were raving about Jamie during the Spring so he must have some talent but I think we should take your opinion on it instead, SMH.
I need quotes or something about them "raving" about Gordinier. Even if Gordinier is decent he's not a better player than Owens and Owens should not be off the field. Sorry I'm hurting your feelings little guy


Didn't say anything about him being better than Owens. Actually I was one of the very few who said Owens would start if healthy over Pinckney at WLB. Not hurting my feelings at all, you just have no actual reasoning to back up your claims that Gordinier is a player or not "little guy".

I literally gave 4 reasons why. Let's try this again. "He's slow, no big offers, and was offered by al golden" try reading that

The only part of your "analysis" that would hold any water, if true, is that he's slow. I can't recall the testing numbers for him, but I recall someone saying or posting some pretty good speed and agility times for him. Luke Kuechly had no big offers. And Folden recruited several very good players.
 
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I wasn't aware of how slow Gordinier was, what does he run in the 40?
A couple weeks back someone wrote on this site that Gordinier ran the fastest or 2nd fastest time out of all the LBs in offseason testing.Physsically he's as imposing looking as any LB on the team right now.
 
I wasn't aware of how slow Gordinier was, what does he run in the 40?
A couple weeks back someone wrote on this site that Gordinier ran the fastest or 2nd fastest time out of all the LBs in offseason testing.Physsically he's as imposing looking as any LB on the team right now.

And still about the seventh most talented behind Grace, Shaq, Pinckney, Owens, McCloud, and young. If he was so god **** good and impressive in spring why did a 17 year old come in and take his starting spot
 
I wasn't aware of how slow Gordinier was, what does he run in the 40?
A couple weeks back someone wrote on this site that Gordinier ran the fastest or 2nd fastest time out of all the LBs in offseason testing.Physsically he's as imposing looking as any LB on the team right now.

And still about the seventh most talented behind Grace, Shaq, Pinckney, Owens, McCloud, and young. If he was so god **** good and impressive in spring why did a 17 year old come in and take his starting spot

I don't know where Gordinier is in the depth chart but the argument most are making here is that he's slow and that is not true if he's faster than the all the other LBs on the team.
 
2nd fastest huh? Well that debunks the little "he's slow" myth that this guy just pulled out of his ***. Then he retorts to talent talk when no one ever said he was a great player. I do think he'll be a better player than most will give him credit for though. He'll play a role and just because he won't start over Shaq(who isn't your ordinary incoming freshmen LB) doesn't mean he doesn't have talent. And nobody knows the true depth chart but one thing is true, both Gordinier and Shaq started during the spring at certain points in time.
 
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2nd fastest huh? Well that debunks the little "he's slow" myth that this guy just pulled out of his ***. Then he retorts to talent talk when no one ever said he was a great player. I do think he'll be a better player than most will give him credit for though. He'll play a role and just because he won't start over Shaq(who isn't your ordinary incoming freshmen LB) doesn't mean he doesn't have talent. And nobody knows the true depth chart but one thing is true, both Gordinier and Shaq started during the spring at certain points in time.

Everybody lets welcome Jamie Gordiniers dad to the thread
 
2nd fastest huh? Well that debunks the little "he's slow" myth that this guy just pulled out of his ***. Then he retorts to talent talk when no one ever said he was a great player. I do think he'll be a better player than most will give him credit for though. He'll play a role and just because he won't start over Shaq(who isn't your ordinary incoming freshmen LB) doesn't mean he doesn't have talent. And nobody knows the true depth chart but one thing is true, both Gordinier and Shaq started during the spring at certain points in time.

Everybody lets welcome Jamie Gordiniers dad to the thread ��

LOL
 
I wasn't aware of how slow Gordinier was, what does he run in the 40?
A couple weeks back someone wrote on this site that Gordinier ran the fastest or 2nd fastest time out of all the LBs in offseason testing.Physsically he's as imposing looking as any LB on the team right now.

I think it was Sooch that brought up JG's testing #'s. I'm part of the fan base that thinks Gordinier will be a player for us. I mentioned in another post that if he does indeed lack the agility to play LB his size could allow for him to move to DE. I don't understand why some fans are so eager to write the kid off without playing a down of live football against kids with different colored jerseys. If I'm wrong I will eat the crow...

Go Canes!
 
[video=youtube_share;fqjPKGDWAFI]http://youtu.be/fqjPKGDWAFI[/video]

He is a very well spoken young man, provides articulate, sincere answers to mundane questions.

UknowWhat did real good. So excited to see him play this year.
 
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I wasn't aware of how slow Gordinier was, what does he run in the 40?
A couple weeks back someone wrote on this site that Gordinier ran the fastest or 2nd fastest time out of all the LBs in offseason testing.Physsically he's as imposing looking as any LB on the team right now.

And still about the seventh most talented behind Grace, Shaq, Pinckney, Owens, McCloud, and young. If he was so god **** good and impressive in spring why did a 17 year old come in and take his starting spot

I don't know where Gordinier is in the depth chart but the argument most are making here is that he's slow and that is not true if he's faster than the all the other LBs on the team.

He is basing his opinion that he is slow because the kid is white. Racist comments are racist.
 
If Owens is healthy the LBs will most likely be Owens(Will), Shaq(Mike) and Grace(Sam). Pinckney looks like he will backup up Owens at Will with Gordinier backing up Shaq at Mike and McCloud backing up Grace at Sam. They will all play a ton and in Diaz's defense the Sam and Mike positions are interchangeable and are both treated as inside LBs.

I know we are all ready to put the Golden era far behind but that doesn't mean that all of the kids he recruited can't play. Look at Njoku. My point is that Gordinier may be a player. Barring injury however I don't expect the kid to ever start since Shaq should be cemented into the MLB spot and I think McCloud and Pinckney have much higher ceilings.
I really don't think Gordinier is a player at all tbh

Glad the coaches and players who actually see him play everyday feel differently. Ill take their word for it over your opinion...
Don't really understand all the garbage being piled on Gordinier...Coaches had him running with the 1st team in the spring and after all he is a Cane...

Literally every white player that's not a lineman is questioned on this board. They pretend like Dan Morgans and Colin McCarthys types don't exist.
 
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If Owens is healthy the LBs will most likely be Owens(Will), Shaq(Mike) and Grace(Sam). Pinckney looks like he will backup up Owens at Will with Gordinier backing up Shaq at Mike and McCloud backing up Grace at Sam. They will all play a ton and in Diaz's defense the Sam and Mike positions are interchangeable and are both treated as inside LBs.


I know we are all ready to put the Golden era far behind but that doesn't mean that all of the kids he recruited can't play. Look at Njoku. My point is that Gordinier may be a player. Barring injury however I don't expect the kid to ever start since Shaq should be cemented into the MLB spot and I think McCloud and Pinckney have much higher ceilings.
I really don't think Gordinier is a player at all tbh

And how exactly would you know that?
 
If Owens is healthy the LBs will most likely be Owens(Will), Shaq(Mike) and Grace(Sam). Pinckney looks like he will backup up Owens at Will with Gordinier backing up Shaq at Mike and McCloud backing up Grace at Sam. They will all play a ton and in Diaz's defense the Sam and Mike positions are interchangeable and are both treated as inside LBs.


I know we are all ready to put the Golden era far behind but that doesn't mean that all of the kids he recruited can't play. Look at Njoku. My point is that Gordinier may be a player. Barring injury however I don't expect the kid to ever start since Shaq should be cemented into the MLB spot and I think McCloud and Pinckney have much higher ceilings.
I really don't think Gordinier is a player at all tbh

Why because he's white and not from South Florida?

THAT is EXACTLY it. I am sorry but some of the comments are just flat out idiotic. If your basis to rate LB's is color and whether they are from Florida, then you are right on...he sucks. But if it is based on what the current coaches see (they love this kid), what people who actually know football say and his talent, then you have a **** good linebacker.
 
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