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Hmmmmmmmmm.
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Are they going to appeal. That wasn't Blake's statement. It was that he was going to inform the NCAA that UM had already self imposed an undisclosed number of scholarships and see if NCAA is willing to amend the number. Not sure that equals an appeal.
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MDOcane
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correct, not a formal appeal..just an informal plea
What he said.
Because until you know if there will be ANY scholarship reduction, (until punishment is determined) you sit tight and don't do anything.
Maybe there was the hope (as slim as might be) there will be no more punishment, only time served.
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This is what I don't get. The self-imposing of penalties listed in the NCAA report does NOT include the schollies. Yet, I know UM has talked abuot it publicly ad nauseum.
I find it hard to believe that it wasn't mentioned beforehand.
Who knows.
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If you pay attention to the details of the ruling, you will see the devil quite clearly. Man, UM did a masterful job of making sure the language regarding the scholarship reductions maximized its ability to mitigate any real impact. Especially when coupled with the preemptive moves we made.
But if you've already self imposed limits, what would be the point of not telling them until after the fact? That doesn't make much sense. If you get time served, how does saying that you've already held back X number of scholarships hurt you? It doesn't. Meanwhile, if you keep the self imposed reductions to yourself, get hit with reductions from the NCAA, and then after the fact say, "but we've already held back X number of scholarships," the NCAA is going to call BS (and rightfully so).
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Absolutely.
This isn't even a speed bump. Sort of like they painted a spot on the pavement where a speed bump was supposed to go.
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I actually think it's very smart. We are way under the 85 right now. If the NCAA bites on the notion that this is a self-imposed sanction, we are ahead of the game. If they don't go for it, UM is already in a position to sign full classes (25) while still fulfilling the terms of the reductions.
It's a win-win for UM.
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I remember Bernie Kosar saying that UM self reported something like 6 to 10 scholarship reductions over the past two seasons. At the time he said it, Donna's office denied it, but I think we will find that it was less of a denial as it was waiting for the proper time to claim those scholarship reductions.
My best guess is that we only have 3 scholarship reductions left to declare......over 3 years.
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My best guess is that we only have 3 scholarship reductions left to declare......over 3 years.
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wouldn't be surprised if the UM self imposed reductions were initially left out of the self-imposed disclosure report as part of a back room deal that way the NCAA come out publicly saying they are hitting UM with something, then in a few weeks quietly allow for time served also the scholarship reductions and reduced OV's, etc that UM has already done.
This is probably why the University initially denied what Bernie said about the scholarship reductions, to now come out an say publicly yeah actually we did reduce scholarships. Sounds like a Face saving deal was made.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/31/3597277/um-disputes-bernie-kosar-statement.html
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http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#story/sfl-miamis-selfimposed-scholarship-restrictions-might-mitigate-ncaa-sanctions-20131022/
Miami's self-imposed scholarship restrictions might mitigate NCAA sanctions
By Dieter Kurtenbach and Christy Cabrera Chirinos, Sun Sentinel
The loss of nine football scholarships over the next three years might not hurt Al Golden’s Miami football program as harshly as the NCAA may have intended. *
It was not detailed in the NCAA report, but Miami athletic director Blake James said Tuesday that the football program has self-imposed scholarship reductions over the last two seasons. While James declined to say how many scholarships Miami football withheld the past two seasons, UM trustee and former Miami quarterback Bernie Kosar alleged in August that it was 10.*
UM denied that allegation.*
If Miami has limited its number of scholarships by a total of 10 over the last two years, the NCAA’s sanctions would be lighter than Miami’s self-imposed scholarship restrictions.*
Blake declined to say if the nine scholarships the NCAA has docked Miami have already been accounted for in the self-sanctions.*
“I’m not saying we’re taking nine scholarship reductions,” Blake said. “We’ve internally taken some scholarship reductions in football, recognizing the situation, and we’ll communicate that to the NCAA and see how they view that in terms of what our sanctions are.”
James said the NCAA's scholarship reductions will be applied at Golden’s discretion.
“We did some things internally. Those are things that were communicated to Coach Golden [and] he was in support of,” Blake told the Sun Sentinel Tuesday afternoon. “We all recognize the situation that we were dealing with and thought that was what was best. We will talk to the NCAA about what had been done here internally, even though it hadn’t been communicated and obviously, however that goes, we recognize and accept that we have nine scholarships that we need to account for.”
This is probably why the University initially denied what Bernie said about the scholarship reductions, to now come out an say publicly yeah actually we did reduce scholarships. Sounds like a Face saving deal was made.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/31/3597277/um-disputes-bernie-kosar-statement.html
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http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#story/sfl-miamis-selfimposed-scholarship-restrictions-might-mitigate-ncaa-sanctions-20131022/
Miami's self-imposed scholarship restrictions might mitigate NCAA sanctions
By Dieter Kurtenbach and Christy Cabrera Chirinos, Sun Sentinel
The loss of nine football scholarships over the next three years might not hurt Al Golden’s Miami football program as harshly as the NCAA may have intended. *
It was not detailed in the NCAA report, but Miami athletic director Blake James said Tuesday that the football program has self-imposed scholarship reductions over the last two seasons. While James declined to say how many scholarships Miami football withheld the past two seasons, UM trustee and former Miami quarterback Bernie Kosar alleged in August that it was 10.*
UM denied that allegation.*
If Miami has limited its number of scholarships by a total of 10 over the last two years, the NCAA’s sanctions would be lighter than Miami’s self-imposed scholarship restrictions.*
Blake declined to say if the nine scholarships the NCAA has docked Miami have already been accounted for in the self-sanctions.*
“I’m not saying we’re taking nine scholarship reductions,” Blake said. “We’ve internally taken some scholarship reductions in football, recognizing the situation, and we’ll communicate that to the NCAA and see how they view that in terms of what our sanctions are.”
James said the NCAA's scholarship reductions will be applied at Golden’s discretion.
“We did some things internally. Those are things that were communicated to Coach Golden [and] he was in support of,” Blake told the Sun Sentinel Tuesday afternoon. “We all recognize the situation that we were dealing with and thought that was what was best. We will talk to the NCAA about what had been done here internally, even though it hadn’t been communicated and obviously, however that goes, we recognize and accept that we have nine scholarships that we need to account for.”
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