True 1953 or carolcityhigh or both did some posts of Nike 40 times across the US a little while back and very few broke 4.5. out the thousands running in them.
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True 1953 or carolcityhigh or both did some posts of Nike 40 times across the US a little while back and very few broke 4.5. out the thousands running in them.
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I found it and cut and pasted it here--
Many of those 40 times as put out for public consumption are done by unofficial timing such a coaches, other players, friends, etc.
• In these elite combines 250-400 kinds are invited and they are the best.
• Often as much as 35% of the players will not run the 40 due to the fear a bad time will hurt them.
• The 40 practiced and performed at the Pro Indy Combine is done by players who undergo many weeks of specialized training at various pro camps to get the start down and when to move at the start so as to get the best time.
• I can list hosts of high school players who have run national elite or near national elite high school standard times in the 50m and 100m and performed "relatively slow" Nike 40 times due to the aforementioned mentioned factors.
• True sub 4.50 HS 40s under measurable standards are not that common and are not done by one position, etc.
• a couple of examples--
Miami Nike Football Training Camp held Sunday, Mar. 16, 2014 at American Heritage School in Plantation, Fla
Calvin Ridley WR 2015 Apocalypse 6-0.0 169 4.54 4.15 32.0 32.0 92.70
but in track that same spring ran a 10.67 100m (national elite 10.80)
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Miami Nike Football Training Camp held Sunday, Mar. 6, 2016 at American Heritage School in Plantation, Fla
Trajan Bandy DB 17 FL Columbus 5-9.5 175 4.68 4.24 34.5 32.8 90.84
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Below are some of the top Nike Combines for 2016. I took the times under 4.50. The 40 is the third number from the left in bold. The first is the height, then weight after the 40 is the short shuttle, power ball and vertical.
Chicago Nike Combine---Chicago Regional held at Addison Trail High School in Addison, Ill. on May 14th, 2016.
Deyon Campbell 17 WR MN Hopkins 5-7.5 181 4.47 4.41 37.0 39.1 108.81
Orlando Henley 17 DB AR Catholic 5-7 155 4.53 4.18 26.5 35.8 85.80
Kalil Pimpleton 17 WR MI Muskegon 5-7 158 4.56 4.40 29.0 35.6 80.58
Columbus held at Westerville North High School in Westerville, Ohio on May 7th, 2016.
Donovan Johnson 17 DB MI Cass Tech 5-10 176 4.43 3.95 32 37.3 116.16
KJ Hamler 17 WR MI St. Mary’s (MI) 5-9 155 4.43 4.22 38 33.3 106.35
Zavier Brown 17 WR IN Cathedral (IN) 5-9.5 176 4.46 4.64 34.5 41 101.07
Ambry Thomas 17 DB MI Martin Luther King (Detroit) 5-11.5 174 4.48 4.18 34 33.3 100.71
Dylan Jones 17 RB OH Springboro 6-1 190 4.50 4.24 32.5 38.1 106.38
Nike New Jersey held at Atlantic Health Training Center in Florham Park, New Jersey on May 1st, 2016.
Harrison Hand 17 DB NJ West (Cherry Hill) 5-11.5 183 4.40 4.42 39.0 40.8 120.33
Jonathan Taylor 17 RB NJ Salem (NJ) 5-11 208 4.42 4.30 35.0 34.4 110.43
A.J. Dillon 17 RB MA Lawrence Academy 6-1 239 4.56 4.29 40.0 38.3 127.53
Anthony Lotti 17 DB NJ Freehold Township 5-11 187 4.56 4.12 38.5 42.1 126.93
Nike+ Football The Opening Charlotte held at Mallard Creek High School in Charlotte, N.C. on April 24th, 2016
Jae'vion Matthews 17 WR SC York (SC) 6-0 171 4.48 4.41 32.0 30.5 83.85
Edmond Graham 17 WR GA Mill Creek 5-9 161 4.53 4.33 33.0 41.5 101.61
Christian Braswell 17 DB DC Friendship Academy 5-10 161 4.55 4.26 32.0 39.0 97.05
Nike+ Football The Opening New Orleans held at Joe Brown Memorial Park in New Orleans, La. on April 10th,
Travis Etienne Jr. 17 RB LA Jennings 5-11 199 4.43 4.33 37.5 37.3 116.94
Cam Akers 17 RB MS Clinton 5-11 212 4.44 4.09 40.0 40.6 141.33
Jacob Copeland 18 WR FL Pine Forest 6-0 189 4.44 4.23 37.0 35.0 112.71
Clyde Edwards-Helaire 17 RB LA Catholic 5-8 194 4.47 4.12 38.0 37.5 121.86
Jeremy Singleton 17 WR LA Brother Martin 5-11.5 163 4.48 4.09 30.0 34.0 95.22
Caleb Jolivette 17 RB TX Manvel 5-8 153 4.50 4.21 33.5 42.2 107.34
Football The Opening Houston held at Delmar-Tusa Athletic Complex in Houston, Texas on April 3rd, 2016
Caleb Jolivette RB 17 TX Manvel 5-8 150 4.35 4.36 35.0 41.3 109.77
Craig Williams RB 18 TX Crosby 5-9 166 4.36 4.48 35.0 29.0 90.24
Xavier Martin QB 17 TX Steele (TX) 6-0 180 4.43 4.43 40.0 40.6 120.39
Brennan Eagles WR 18 TX Taylor 6-3.5 202 4.43 4.53 38.0 35.0 108.39
JK Dobbins RB 17 TX La Grange (TX) 5-9.5 199 4.44 4.41 40.0 38.5 121.05
Justin Guy-Robinson DB 17 TX Pearland 5-10 159 4.45 4.30 32.0 37.0 97.71
Kam Scott WR 18 TX Manvel 6-1.5 156 4.46 4.66 33.0 33.9 82.44
Kylan Herrera RB 17 TX Copperas Cove 6-0 169 4.47 4.27 36.0 32.0 97.89
D'shawn Jamison DB 18 TX Lamar (Houston) 5-10 168 4.48 3.90 35.0 36.7 116.07
Emmanuel Netherly WR 17 TX Crosby 6-2 183 4.48 4.32 36.0 36.9 105.81
Mark Milton QB 18 TX Clear Brook 6-1 166 4.48 4.55 29.0 33.5 77.46
Langston Frederick DB 17 TX Clear Springs 5-10 174 4.49 4.56 37.0 37.9 99.93
Noah Daniels DB 17 TX Clear Creek 6-0 180 4.51 4.35 37.0 35.5 103.32
Nike+ Football The Opening Atlanta held at Buford High School in Buford, Georgia on March 20th, 2016.
Jamar Richardson DB 17 AL Aliceville 5-11.5 167 4.47 4.18 34.5 37.8 107.52
Eric Stokes RB 17 GA Eastside (GA) 6-0.5 172 4.47 4.06 24.0 31.3 86.61
LaPerion Perry WR 17 GA LaGrange (GA) 5-6 150 4.49 4.35 30.0 36.5 86.55
Verenzo Holmes Jr DB 17 GA Aquinas (GA) 5-10 174 4.50 4.27 30.0 34.9 91.50
Jordyn Peters DB 17 AL Muscle Shoals 6-1 181 4.51 4.13 35.0 38.2 111.96
John Durden WR 17 GA Emanuel County Institute 6-2 189 4.51 4.35 37.0 37.7 108.72
Nike+ Football The Opening Miami held at American Heritage High School in Plantation, Florida on March 6th, 2016.
Christopher Henderson DB 17 FL Columbus 6-1 175 4.35 4.24 37.0 36.7 115.98
DeMarcus Townsend RB 18 FL Gulf Coast 5-11 192 4.40 4.14 38.0 40.8 132.39
Carlos Sandy WR 18 FL Cardinal Gibbons 5-8 153 4.45 4.38 40.0 36.0 107.40
Kenny Benjamin RB 17 FL Dunbar (FL) 5-6.5 153 4.46 4.44 32.0 40.8 96.69
Chauncy Smart WR 17 FL Auburndale 5-8 166 4.48 4.10 40.0 38.0 120.69
Lio'undre Gallimore WR 17 FL Miami Norland 5-8 159 4.48 4.30 34.5 34.6 95.76
Marquis Waters DB 17 FL Atlantic 6-0 192 4.48 4.33 30.0 31.4 88.23
Camron Davis RB 18 FL Carol City 5-9.5 187 4.50 39.0 27.7
Nike+ Football The Opening Los Angeles held at Redondo Union High School in Redondo Beach, California on February 28th, 2016.
Eric Fuller Jr. DB 18 CA Paramount 5-8 150 4.41 4.20 36.0 32.1 100.41
Isaac Taylor DB 18 CA St. Augustine 6-1 176 4.43 4.27 37.5 37.7 114.54
Tyrel Thomas DB 17 CA St. John Bosco 5-7.5 167 4.44 4.35 38.0 36.7 108.69
Elijah Blades DB 17 CA Muir 6-2 170 4.44 4.18 36.0 31.4 103.17
Erik Spurlin-Renfroe WR 17 CA Gahr 6-0 179 4.46 4.47 36.0 31.1 92.82
Biaggio Ali-Walsh RB 17 NV Bishop Gorman 5-10 186 4.47 3.95 34.0 33.6 112.98
Braden Lenzy DB 18 OR Tigard 6-0 160 4.47 4.27 36.0 33.0 97.59
Jackson McChesney RB 17 UT Lone Peak 6-0 187 4.48 4.23 42.0 39.1 128.40
Cole Dubots RB 17 CA Vista Murrieta 6-0 181 4.49 4.29 40.0 35.8 113.10
Elijah Shelton WR 17 CA Mater Dei (Chula Vista) 5-8 137 4.51 4.33 30.0 33.6 79.83
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Just to clear some things up.....IDK where you got this 100m time but Tariq doesn't run track. Yes he ran a 4.69 in Charlotte at the Opening, which was in April 2016 but his 40 time is a 4.5. He's underrated and is a explosive player.
Tariq runs a 4.5 in his 40 since his senior year and his correct height and weight is 6'3 200...Let's just start there. His grades are very good so idk where that info came from. Yes he's very underrated and Miami will be Glad they found him. Oh and he doesn't run track and field so IDK where that 100m time came from either it's obviously a mistake. He's a needle in the haystack.
He has other offers from UMASS, Georgia Tech, Memphis, NC State, Gs, GEORGIA State, Tulane and a few more.
He has other offers from UMASS, Georgia Tech, Memphis, NC State, Gs, GEORGIA State, Tulane and a few more.
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U close with Tariq, I'm assuming, Deedee?
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6'3 200? Does he have the frame to put on 25lbs and play LB ala Spence/Grace?
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Let's start here---He runs track and field and the 40 of 4.5 was not am official Combine or camp time but probably some coaches time? I noticed DeeDee this is your first post are you his coach, relative, etc?
His bests for 2016
100m---13.27.. Carpenter, Tariq Liberty County 4th Home Meet... 2016-03-24
High Jump---5-8 ..Carpenter, Tariq GA Region 2-AA Track and Field Championship... 2016-04-11
Long jump---19-7.. Carpenter, Tariq GA Region 2-AA Track and Field Championship... 2016-04-11
Tripler Jump--39-7.. Carpenter, Tariq Jeff Davis High School Home Meet #1 ..2016-03-08
Word of advice do not gamble in Vegas as you would loose you A$$. Research before you put something in writing.
Some additional information===
He was visited by the U coaches today and has set up an official visit. UCF has scheduled an in home with him after hearing of the U.
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Didn't take long for the " add weight , change position" post.
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I'm a firm believer in the Jimmy Johnson rule. I don't want plodding behemoths getting their ankles broken by quicker, faster opposing players. In this era of the spread formation and read option, the last thing we need are defenders who can't run with their counterparts on offense.
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I feel ya but not every player isn't capable of switching and maybe he's better at the position he's playing.
Posters here are obsessed with making every te over 240 a ol, any wr over 6'3 200 a te, any db over 6'2 200 a lb.
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Butch's "post-signing-day" guys were not "Plan C". Edge had academic issues, and McKinnie and Shockey were JuCo guys. You might as well be comparing apples to orcas.
No offense but if he never ran track who is this? I think your son looks very good for a big safety.
Tariq Carpenter - GA Track and Field Profile
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If Miami offers will he commit?
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Eh, I don't think we should be forcing ourselves to replace Billy Gibson's spot. Seems like what we are doing.
Not a fan of his offer list or the fact that we've only been on him recently.
Then again, i just don't think Derrick Smith should be a take either so what do I know.
Not a fan of his offer list or the fact that we've only been on him recently.
Then again, i just don't think Derrick Smith should be a take either so what do I know.
I do not think 1953 is that negative. If you look at his posts as I went back and did -- #45 , # 46, #101 , #102 he is pretty complimentary and defended your sons "poor" 40 Nike combine time with facts about many who have had less than satisfactorily times at Nike. He was very complimentary of his vertical and short shuttle. In addition, many others on the board questioned that Nike 40 that was not originated by 1953.
Best to you and your son.
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I trust evaluation of Richt and his defensive coaches 100 times more than the posters here. How many recruits they evaluated then signed up who turned out to be busts?
Assuming this is a Golden redux is not based on facts. Only the posters who use every opportunity to criticize Richt or someone like Vern, the leader of the doom and gloom parade will bring Golden name here.
Assuming this is a Golden redux is not based on facts. Only the posters who use every opportunity to criticize Richt or someone like Vern, the leader of the doom and gloom parade will bring Golden name here.
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High school and college 40 times are bogus as ****. I don't know why people continually get caught up on that stuff. Dorset has our 40 time record and he didn't even come close to Swasey's slow hand b.s. with months to train for the combine.
I'm just going to stay out of this topic though regarding the player. I could make a case either way, but I'm greedy so Ill leave it at that.
I'm just going to stay out of this topic though regarding the player. I could make a case either way, but I'm greedy so Ill leave it at that.
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STB did a lot more to talk positive about your sons "off" 40 than most if not all of the other posts on this thread using real facts from Nike. The fact he brings up and can show actual documented track times and field events does not in anyway make him a "bad" person or against your son. If you take time to look at the overall posts over the years on this board almost all players right or wrong have come under scrutiny from the posters. This recruiting business is very tough, very competitive, and strenuous on these young men, their families ( i know personally) and the coaches as if they fail to get the proper recruits the usually do not last long.
Best wishes to you and your son as I am sure he will do well here, UCF or any other school he chooses to attend.
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