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Given that he gets so much info from nole posters i don't know how reliable his info on Miami is. However there's no doubt that we burned a lot of opportunity and money with how bad we've been on the field during Mario's tenure. Given the excitement around mario's hiring if we had had a decent level of success (say 8-4/9-3 seasons) we could have seen a large increase in revenue.
 
Look, anyone gullible enough to believe that pile of horse****...deserves to be mocked.

Particularly the breathless "here's what another AD had to say" nonsense.

None of that **** is true. None of it.

First, anyone who understands UM and its building projects KNOWS that half of the facility being built in the surface parking lot of the Wellness Center...IS A PARKING GARAGE...and that side of campus desperately needs it, as the new dorms will NECESSITATE more parking. As well as the loss of the surface parking at the Wellness Center. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that we are building palatial new dorms, but then consigning those students to having to park a mile away to take a shuttle bus every day? Yeah, that's not happening.

Second, as to the "can't afford it" ridiculousness, we literally can't afford NOT to do it. Even if football sucks, we have a ranked basketball team. Our baseball team just signed the #6 recruiting class. The new football building allows ALL OTHER SPORTS to have better facilities. And if we have ANY shot of impressing the Big 10, it's not by cheaping out at the last minute. Regardless of how expensive it might be, we need those facilities. ****, we needed them 20 years ago. By the way, how much money does the new Student Center bring in? If anyone thinks that the Rathskeller revenue offsets what that building cost...pure insanity...

Third, where is this miraculous debt? Oh my gosh, Mario's been on the job for less than 2 years. We haven't even gotten our revenue share for 2023-24 yet. We certainly haven't built anything in the Wellness Center parking lot. But these liars would have you believe that we have ALREADY gone into some massive debt over this. It's the most asinine thing I've read within any of these realignment threads. HOW? How have we already gone into debt? Does anyone use even a TINY bit of skepticism when reading that OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED anti-UM bull****?

I don't know how many times I've had to say this in the past, or into the future, but CAPITAL EXPENDITURES are fundamentally different from operating expenses. They just are. People give money FOR BUILDINGS because they want their names on buildings. They want legacy. It's not about "ROI" or whatever that dopey post would have you believe.

Now, if the NIL and Hurricane Club money streams are a bit smaller after a few losses, who knows. Actually, I know people who know, and I haven't heard that yet. COULD it happen? Sure, it "could". But if donors are quitting part of the way through Year 2...well, who knows, I guess someone could, but how is it that this ONLY happens to Miami? It's just nutty to invent 4 pages of a post that purports to give "inside information" that has no basis in fact, and that is only tailored to the worst fears of our most skittish *****-made fans.

So I'd simply say this. Where is the GaTech balance sheet? Where is the Clemson balance sheet? Where is the Miami balance sheet that shows all this debt? Dan wasn't pushed out of GaTech or Clemson. The two campuses are a few hours apart, you'd think that if his behavior was so problematic, we would have heard something by now. I live in Atlanta and I have NEVER heard that Dan put GaTech into massive debt. Was it expensive to renovate one of the oldest stadiums in the country? Yes it was. Was Dan responsible for that? No. Did it need to be done? Yes.

I hate Twatter and Instacrap and all those sites. I had to read about this stuff on my computer, because when someone sent me a Twatter preview, the screenshots were too small to read. But maybe some of you with courage and a command of the facts can inform Genetics that all of that stuff was highlyl motivated and designed to hurt Miami. Someone must fear us and our desirability, to make up FOUR PAGES of bull**** like that.

And let's be clear. I am NOT saying that everything is perfect. If you went back and figured out how long it took us to build the Ryder/BUC/Watsco, you would know that sometimes things in Miami take a while.

As one of my fellow friends and posters just texted me earlier today, the UM School of Business now provides MASSAGES. And as I responded, UM has come a long way since it claimed poverty when the Student Government tried to get them to pay for more lighting on campus and a pedestrian bridge over US 1.

Miami has money. Stop believing every "sky is falling" fake story, even if a guy like Genetics re-twats it.

And grow some balls and tell Genetics that none of that crap is true.
 
Hiring Mario was a last ditch effort to spend money to make money. Cheap coaches weren’t doing anything or moving the needle. I was told when he was hired that if it didn’t work they basically plan on folding it up and moving on as a Georgia Tech or Wake Forest level program. Basically 8 more years to right the ship or forget about it.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the early returns on Cristobal are making them 2nd guess it. No info on that but would not be surprised if it’s on hold until further notice
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Look, anyone gullible enough to believe that pile of horse****...deserves to be mocked.

Particularly the breathless "here's what another AD had to say" nonsense.

None of that **** is true. None of it.

First, anyone who understands UM and its building projects KNOWS that half of the facility being built in the surface parking lot of the Wellness Center...IS A PARKING GARAGE...and that side of campus desperately needs it, as the new dorms will NECESSITATE more parking. As well as the loss of the surface parking at the Wellness Center. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that we are building palatial new dorms, but then consigning those students to having to park a mile away to take a shuttle bus every day? Yeah, that's not happening.

Second, as to the "can't afford it" ridiculousness, we literally can't afford NOT to do it. Even if football sucks, we have a ranked basketball team. Our baseball team just signed the #6 recruiting class. The new football building allows ALL OTHER SPORTS to have better facilities. And if we have ANY shot of impressing the Big 10, it's not by cheaping out at the last minute. Regardless of how expensive it might be, we need those facilities. ****, we needed them 20 years ago. By the way, how much money does the new Student Center bring in? If anyone thinks that the Rathskeller revenue offsets what that building cost...pure insanity...

Third, where is this miraculous debt? Oh my gosh, Mario's been on the job for less than 2 years. We haven't even gotten our revenue share for 2023-24 yet. We certainly haven't built anything in the Wellness Center parking lot. But these liars would have you believe that we have ALREADY gone into some massive debt over this. It's the most asinine thing I've read within any of these realignment threads. HOW? How have we already gone into debt? Does anyone use even a TINY bit of skepticism when reading that OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED anti-UM bull****?

I don't know how many times I've had to say this in the past, or into the future, but CAPITAL EXPENDITURES are fundamentally different from operating expenses. They just are. People give money FOR BUILDINGS because they want their names on buildings. They want legacy. It's not about "ROI" or whatever that dopey post would have you believe.

Now, if the NIL and Hurricane Club money streams are a bit smaller after a few losses, who knows. Actually, I know people who know, and I haven't heard that yet. COULD it happen? Sure, it "could". But if donors are quitting part of the way through Year 2...well, who knows, I guess someone could, but how is it that this ONLY happens to Miami? It's just nutty to invent 4 pages of a post that purports to give "inside information" that has no basis in fact, and that is only tailored to the worst fears of our most skittish *****-made fans.

So I'd simply say this. Where is the GaTech balance sheet? Where is the Clemson balance sheet? Where is the Miami balance sheet that shows all this debt? Dan wasn't pushed out of GaTech or Clemson. The two campuses are a few hours apart, you'd think that if his behavior was so problematic, we would have heard something by now. I live in Atlanta and I have NEVER heard that Dan put GaTech into massive debt. Was it expensive to renovate one of the oldest stadiums in the country? Yes it was. Was Dan responsible for that? No. Did it need to be done? Yes.

I hate Twatter and Instacrap and all those sites. I had to read about this stuff on my computer, because when someone sent me a Twatter preview, the screenshots were too small to read. But maybe some of you with courage and a command of the facts can inform Genetics that all of that stuff was highlyl motivated and designed to hurt Miami. Someone must fear us and our desirability, to make up FOUR PAGES of bull**** like that.

And let's be clear. I am NOT saying that everything is perfect. If you went back and figured out how long it took us to build the Ryder/BUC/Watsco, you would know that sometimes things in Miami take a while.

As one of my fellow friends and posters just texted me earlier today, the UM School of Business now provides MASSAGES. And as I responded, UM has come a long way since it claimed poverty when the Student Government tried to get them to pay for more lighting on campus and a pedestrian bridge over US 1.

Miami has money. Stop believing every "sky is falling" fake story, even if a guy like Genetics re-twats it.

And grow some balls and tell Genetics that none of that crap is true.
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I have been worried about you, but clearly you have not missed a beat.
 
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For what it’s worth - his very next post is about how smooth FSU renovations are going so… take with grain of salt
 

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I still don’t see where that info was actually posted other than those screenshots lol was it a message board? A podcast?

The one thing we do know is that the two advisors Frenk used to put all this together had the ROI model and us winning earlier and getting more attendance and such I’m sure was baked in and our attendance has been **** so I can see a shortfall there but it would be a weird thing for Rad to say the new facility is essentially funded already and then not have the money.
 
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Don’t worry guys, Genetics is the same guy who said FSU and Clemson leaving the conference is imminent. He said that in September and October but it’ll be any day now for sure.

This reads like an oppo dump. That’s all it is.
 
The U is back to work said:
I still don’t see where that info was actually posted other than those screenshots lol was it a message board? A podcast?

The one thing we do know is that the two advisors Frenk used to put all this together had the ROI model and us winning earlier and getting more attendance and such I’m sure was baked in and our attendance has been **** so I can see a shortfall there but it would be a weird thing for Rad to say the new facility is essentially funded already and then not have the money.
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How is our "attendance" ****?

Regardless of butts in seats, the announced numbers are sales numbers. And, what, with the ****** schedule we have played in 2022 and 2023, how many more tickets do you think we would have sold?

Our stadium capacity is 65,000. Most of the unsold seats are the cheapest seats.

Our 2022 home games:

Bethune-Cookman - 56,795
Southern Miss - 46,422
Middle Tennessee - 46,713
North Carolina - 53,751
Duke - 57,421
F$U - 66,200 (sellout)
Pitt - 45,428 (Thanksgiving weekend game)

So, please tell me, was the difference between Miami "breaking even" and "being in massive debt" those extra 12,000 cheap seats we should have sold for North Carolina? Or the extra 8,000 we should have sold for Duke? Because we were never going to sell out for Bethune-Cookman, Southern Miss, or Middle Tennessee.

Should we have sold more tickets for Texas A&M and Clemson this year? Sure. But if anyone thinks that a game a couple of weeks ago has already caused Miami to descend into debt...well, I just don't know how to help a person like that comprehend reality.
 
Please explain the massive expenses incurred by an AD who hasn't built anything yet? Did i miss a new build, thought it was all in planniing phase?? I'm sure there's more but, how bad can you spend?
 
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JayCane20 said:
Hiring Mario was a last ditch effort to spend money to make money. Cheap coaches weren’t doing anything or moving the needle. I was told when he was hired that if it didn’t work they basically plan on folding it up and moving on as a Georgia Tech or Wake Forest level program. Basically 8 more years to right the ship or forget about it.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the early returns on Cristobal are making them 2nd guess it. No info on that but would not be surprised if it’s on hold until further notice
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Haha so the one time they try its wothout conducting a coaching search and putting all the eggs in the Mario basket. Sounds a lot like our QB recruiting.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Look, anyone gullible enough to believe that pile of horse****...deserves to be mocked.

Particularly the breathless "here's what another AD had to say" nonsense.

None of that **** is true. None of it.

First, anyone who understands UM and its building projects KNOWS that half of the facility being built in the surface parking lot of the Wellness Center...IS A PARKING GARAGE...and that side of campus desperately needs it, as the new dorms will NECESSITATE more parking. As well as the loss of the surface parking at the Wellness Center. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that we are building palatial new dorms, but then consigning those students to having to park a mile away to take a shuttle bus every day? Yeah, that's not happening.

Second, as to the "can't afford it" ridiculousness, we literally can't afford NOT to do it. Even if football sucks, we have a ranked basketball team. Our baseball team just signed the #6 recruiting class. The new football building allows ALL OTHER SPORTS to have better facilities. And if we have ANY shot of impressing the Big 10, it's not by cheaping out at the last minute. Regardless of how expensive it might be, we need those facilities. ****, we needed them 20 years ago. By the way, how much money does the new Student Center bring in? If anyone thinks that the Rathskeller revenue offsets what that building cost...pure insanity...

Third, where is this miraculous debt? Oh my gosh, Mario's been on the job for less than 2 years. We haven't even gotten our revenue share for 2023-24 yet. We certainly haven't built anything in the Wellness Center parking lot. But these liars would have you believe that we have ALREADY gone into some massive debt over this. It's the most asinine thing I've read within any of these realignment threads. HOW? How have we already gone into debt? Does anyone use even a TINY bit of skepticism when reading that OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED anti-UM bull****?

I don't know how many times I've had to say this in the past, or into the future, but CAPITAL EXPENDITURES are fundamentally different from operating expenses. They just are. People give money FOR BUILDINGS because they want their names on buildings. They want legacy. It's not about "ROI" or whatever that dopey post would have you believe.

Now, if the NIL and Hurricane Club money streams are a bit smaller after a few losses, who knows. Actually, I know people who know, and I haven't heard that yet. COULD it happen? Sure, it "could". But if donors are quitting part of the way through Year 2...well, who knows, I guess someone could, but how is it that this ONLY happens to Miami? It's just nutty to invent 4 pages of a post that purports to give "inside information" that has no basis in fact, and that is only tailored to the worst fears of our most skittish *****-made fans.

So I'd simply say this. Where is the GaTech balance sheet? Where is the Clemson balance sheet? Where is the Miami balance sheet that shows all this debt? Dan wasn't pushed out of GaTech or Clemson. The two campuses are a few hours apart, you'd think that if his behavior was so problematic, we would have heard something by now. I live in Atlanta and I have NEVER heard that Dan put GaTech into massive debt. Was it expensive to renovate one of the oldest stadiums in the country? Yes it was. Was Dan responsible for that? No. Did it need to be done? Yes.

I hate Twatter and Instacrap and all those sites. I had to read about this stuff on my computer, because when someone sent me a Twatter preview, the screenshots were too small to read. But maybe some of you with courage and a command of the facts can inform Genetics that all of that stuff was highlyl motivated and designed to hurt Miami. Someone must fear us and our desirability, to make up FOUR PAGES of bull**** like that.

And let's be clear. I am NOT saying that everything is perfect. If you went back and figured out how long it took us to build the Ryder/BUC/Watsco, you would know that sometimes things in Miami take a while.

As one of my fellow friends and posters just texted me earlier today, the UM School of Business now provides MASSAGES. And as I responded, UM has come a long way since it claimed poverty when the Student Government tried to get them to pay for more lighting on campus and a pedestrian bridge over US 1.

Miami has money. Stop believing every "sky is falling" fake story, even if a guy like Genetics re-twats it.

And grow some balls and tell Genetics that none of that crap is true.
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That pedestrian bridge was needed. A kid on my floor my freshman year got killed crossing US1.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Look, anyone gullible enough to believe that pile of horse****...deserves to be mocked.

Particularly the breathless "here's what another AD had to say" nonsense.

None of that **** is true. None of it.

First, anyone who understands UM and its building projects KNOWS that half of the facility being built in the surface parking lot of the Wellness Center...IS A PARKING GARAGE...and that side of campus desperately needs it, as the new dorms will NECESSITATE more parking. As well as the loss of the surface parking at the Wellness Center. Does anyone HONESTLY believe that we are building palatial new dorms, but then consigning those students to having to park a mile away to take a shuttle bus every day? Yeah, that's not happening.

Second, as to the "can't afford it" ridiculousness, we literally can't afford NOT to do it. Even if football sucks, we have a ranked basketball team. Our baseball team just signed the #6 recruiting class. The new football building allows ALL OTHER SPORTS to have better facilities. And if we have ANY shot of impressing the Big 10, it's not by cheaping out at the last minute. Regardless of how expensive it might be, we need those facilities. ****, we needed them 20 years ago. By the way, how much money does the new Student Center bring in? If anyone thinks that the Rathskeller revenue offsets what that building cost...pure insanity...

Third, where is this miraculous debt? Oh my gosh, Mario's been on the job for less than 2 years. We haven't even gotten our revenue share for 2023-24 yet. We certainly haven't built anything in the Wellness Center parking lot. But these liars would have you believe that we have ALREADY gone into some massive debt over this. It's the most asinine thing I've read within any of these realignment threads. HOW? How have we already gone into debt? Does anyone use even a TINY bit of skepticism when reading that OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED anti-UM bull****?

I don't know how many times I've had to say this in the past, or into the future, but CAPITAL EXPENDITURES are fundamentally different from operating expenses. They just are. People give money FOR BUILDINGS because they want their names on buildings. They want legacy. It's not about "ROI" or whatever that dopey post would have you believe.

Now, if the NIL and Hurricane Club money streams are a bit smaller after a few losses, who knows. Actually, I know people who know, and I haven't heard that yet. COULD it happen? Sure, it "could". But if donors are quitting part of the way through Year 2...well, who knows, I guess someone could, but how is it that this ONLY happens to Miami? It's just nutty to invent 4 pages of a post that purports to give "inside information" that has no basis in fact, and that is only tailored to the worst fears of our most skittish *****-made fans.

So I'd simply say this. Where is the GaTech balance sheet? Where is the Clemson balance sheet? Where is the Miami balance sheet that shows all this debt? Dan wasn't pushed out of GaTech or Clemson. The two campuses are a few hours apart, you'd think that if his behavior was so problematic, we would have heard something by now. I live in Atlanta and I have NEVER heard that Dan put GaTech into massive debt. Was it expensive to renovate one of the oldest stadiums in the country? Yes it was. Was Dan responsible for that? No. Did it need to be done? Yes.

I hate Twatter and Instacrap and all those sites. I had to read about this stuff on my computer, because when someone sent me a Twatter preview, the screenshots were too small to read. But maybe some of you with courage and a command of the facts can inform Genetics that all of that stuff was highlyl motivated and designed to hurt Miami. Someone must fear us and our desirability, to make up FOUR PAGES of bull**** like that.

And let's be clear. I am NOT saying that everything is perfect. If you went back and figured out how long it took us to build the Ryder/BUC/Watsco, you would know that sometimes things in Miami take a while.

As one of my fellow friends and posters just texted me earlier today, the UM School of Business now provides MASSAGES. And as I responded, UM has come a long way since it claimed poverty when the Student Government tried to get them to pay for more lighting on campus and a pedestrian bridge over US 1.

Miami has money. Stop believing every "sky is falling" fake story, even if a guy like Genetics re-twats it.

And grow some balls and tell Genetics that none of that crap is true.
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Screams negative recruiting / schools trying to take advantage of our struggling season.

Appreciate the insight
 
look, I’m not doubting there is an issue here or there but that was a total bull**** rumor mongering not sourced by anyone who would know hit job probably coming from those who have a vested interest in hurting Miami recruiting and/or worried Miami gets a jump to a P2 before them or doesn’t want Miami to leave.

he has no sources that way to that level inside. Though his own prior words (b10 yes).

now suddenly he has the equivalent of a wall st journal /ny times investigative report on Twitter - outside of his own long more opinionated posts there, I challenge you to find one other diatribe like that with as many “quotes” from sources.

watch him do an “update” in the coming weeks as he gets “new” info (probably from a Miami source or two trying to spin the narrative back).

I dont buy it. Not in year 1.85 of the plan.

and not because I drinking koolaid or all in on where things are cause I’m not, but this is so out there even with what we have experienced with this school I still call bull****.
 
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