Metro Atlanta and DC

[bobbo31]

Could you imagine Stephon Diggs here? The top 2 freshmen in the ACC and 2 big time playmakers.

 

[motorcitycane]

That 757 area is rich for football talent. I wish we camped out there.

 

[caneallday21]

Could you imagine Stephon Diggs here? The top 2 freshmen in the ACC and 2 big time playmakers.

Maryland is lucky they keep guys at home

 

[bacane]

Over the last decade, metro Atlanta has begun to produce a ton of players. Far more than folks might realize. The city itself has a few pockets and occasionally a gem like Eddie Johnson (though not a must-get out of HS), but the real numbers are in the surrounding communities and suburbs. Conversely, the numbers and talent has fallen off in south Georgia. The booster clubs and support systems that drove football in the small south Georgia towns are now the norm in the schools sprouting up on the outskirts of the city - particularly in Gwinnett and Cobb counties. The city itself isn't growing and you don't have the inner city powers like in Miami, but these and other counties around Atlanta are still growing by huge numbers.
Again, the issue is Georgia typically gets the pick of the litter and then the SEC programs and a multitude of national programs. But there are no shortage of players.

 

[TallyCane]

Wasnt Miami's Eddie Goldmans "dream school" till the sanctions came out so im sure that has something to do with it. Also if we recruited ATL and DC we would make uncle luke mad and we dont want that.

 

[AUcane]

South Dallas loves the U. Never understand why the presence is so thin, especially with the Horns down.

A friggin Men. South Dallas area used to be a pipeline of sorts for us back in the day. Carter, Roosvelt, etc. are traditional powers that we used to recruit in the late 80s/early 90s. South dallas is very comparable to LC/OT Miami in that regard - tough inner city and a hotbed of football. Don't see why we can't go after more kids in that area. Swag, is the talent just not what it used to be in Dallas?

Miami does not have the resources or time to recruit DC or Atlanta hard enough for them to be pipelines.

It wouldn't be as hard as you think.

DC isn't your typical recruiting ground. First, there's a lot of talent, but there isn't a traditional football power within 5 hours of the city (VT), which is why the top kids go all over (Haden/Jenkins to UF, Darby/Goldman to FSU, Benn/Vontae to Illinois, etc). Because there isn't a local power, and because DC is such a transplant city, there isn't any pressure to stay local and waste away at Maryland (local coaches love Locksley, but hate Edsall). Second, a lot of kids here grow up Miami fans because their pops and uncles have been fans since the 80s. Ask a 35+ brotha who he roots for and I bet he says Hoyas and Canes. They love the U in the DMV.

It's a shame the threat of sanctions cost us Diggs and Goldman. Start winning and top DC area kids won't be spending their 3-4 years around country *** bammas in Tallahassee and Tuscaloosa, they'll be here.

I agree with what you're saying, but let's be clear that DC specifically is not great at football. You're going to have to go into the burbs in MD and VA to find the talent. Kids like Goldman and Benn (big time national recruits in DC) are the exceptions not the norm. OTOH, MD has a bunch of good football schools and have produced many talented kids as mentioned in this thread (Diggs, Haden, Dockett, et al). It's not as abundant as one would think, though. I'd rather spend more time in the Tidewater/Cheseapeake area than the DC metro area, to be honest.

 

[motorcitycane]

South Dallas loves the U. Never understand why the presence is so thin, especially with the Horns down.

A friggin Men. South Dallas area used to be a pipeline of sorts for us back in the day. Carter, Roosvelt, etc. are traditional powers that we used to recruit in the late 80s/early 90s. South dallas is very comparable to LC/OT Miami in that regard - tough inner city and a hotbed of football. Don't see why we can't go after more kids in that area. Swag, is the talent just not what it used to be in Dallas?

Miami does not have the resources or time to recruit DC or Atlanta hard enough for them to be pipelines.

It wouldn't be as hard as you think.

DC isn't your typical recruiting ground. First, there's a lot of talent, but there isn't a traditional football power within 5 hours of the city (VT), which is why the top kids go all over (Haden/Jenkins to UF, Darby/Goldman to FSU, Benn/Vontae to Illinois, etc). Because there isn't a local power, and because DC is such a transplant city, there isn't any pressure to stay local and waste away at Maryland (local coaches love Locksley, but hate Edsall). Second, a lot of kids here grow up Miami fans because their pops and uncles have been fans since the 80s. Ask a 35+ brotha who he roots for and I bet he says Hoyas and Canes. They love the U in the DMV.

It's a shame the threat of sanctions cost us Diggs and Goldman. Start winning and top DC area kids won't be spending their 3-4 years around country *** bammas in Tallahassee and Tuscaloosa, they'll be here.

I agree with what you're saying, but let's be clear that DC specifically is not great at football. You're going to have to go into the burbs in MD and VA to find the talent. Kids like Goldman and Benn (big time national recruits in DC) are the exceptions not the norm. OTOH, MD has a bunch of good football schools and have produced many talented kids as mentioned in this thread (Diggs, Haden, Dockett, et al). It's not as abundant as one would think, though. I'd rather spend more time in the Tidewater/Cheseapeake area than the DC metro area, to be honest.[/QUOTE]

Thst'd what I'm saying man

 

[drifters1234]

South Dallas loves the U. Never understand why the presence is so thin, especially with the Horns down.

A friggin Men. South Dallas area used to be a pipeline of sorts for us back in the day. Carter, Roosvelt, etc. are traditional powers that we used to recruit in the late 80s/early 90s. South dallas is very comparable to LC/OT Miami in that regard - tough inner city and a hotbed of football. Don't see why we can't go after more kids in that area. Swag, is the talent just not what it used to be in Dallas?

Miami does not have the resources or time to recruit DC or Atlanta hard enough for them to be pipelines.

It wouldn't be as hard as you think.

DC isn't your typical recruiting ground. First, there's a lot of talent, but there isn't a traditional football power within 5 hours of the city (VT), which is why the top kids go all over (Haden/Jenkins to UF, Darby/Goldman to FSU, Benn/Vontae to Illinois, etc). Because there isn't a local power, and because DC is such a transplant city, there isn't any pressure to stay local and waste away at Maryland (local coaches love Locksley, but hate Edsall). Second, a lot of kids here grow up Miami fans because their pops and uncles have been fans since the 80s. Ask a 35+ brotha who he roots for and I bet he says Hoyas and Canes. They love the U in the DMV.

It's a shame the threat of sanctions cost us Diggs and Goldman. Start winning and top DC area kids won't be spending their 3-4 years around country *** bammas in Tallahassee and Tuscaloosa, they'll be here.

I agree with what you're saying, but let's be clear that DC specifically is not great at football. You're going to have to go into the burbs in MD and VA to find the talent. Kids like Goldman and Benn (big time national recruits in DC) are the exceptions not the norm. OTOH, MD has a bunch of good football schools and have produced many talented kids as mentioned in this thread (Diggs, Haden, Dockett, et al). It's not as abundant as one would think, though. I'd rather spend more time in the Tidewater/Cheseapeake area than the DC metro area, to be honest.

Great point about the Tidewater region. Consistently tons of talent comes out of there. and the primary competition is VA Tech, and to a lesser extent, UVA, so UM should fare well there.

 

[AUcane]

I think per capita, the TW/Chesepeake area has produced more NFL players than any other area (or at least right up there).

 

[bshaw28]

South Dallas loves the U. Never understand why the presence is so thin, especially with the Horns down.

A friggin Men. South Dallas area used to be a pipeline of sorts for us back in the day. Carter, Roosvelt, etc. are traditional powers that we used to recruit in the late 80s/early 90s. South dallas is very comparable to LC/OT Miami in that regard - tough inner city and a hotbed of football. Don't see why we can't go after more kids in that area. Swag, is the talent just not what it used to be in Dallas?

Miami does not have the resources or time to recruit DC or Atlanta hard enough for them to be pipelines.

It wouldn't be as hard as you think.

DC isn't your typical recruiting ground. First, there's a lot of talent, but there isn't a traditional football power within 5 hours of the city (VT), which is why the top kids go all over (Haden/Jenkins to UF, Darby/Goldman to FSU, Benn/Vontae to Illinois, etc). Because there isn't a local power, and because DC is such a transplant city, there isn't any pressure to stay local and waste away at Maryland (local coaches love Locksley, but hate Edsall). Second, a lot of kids here grow up Miami fans because their pops and uncles have been fans since the 80s. Ask a 35+ brotha who he roots for and I bet he says Hoyas and Canes. They love the U in the DMV.

It's a shame the threat of sanctions cost us Diggs and Goldman. Start winning and top DC area kids won't be spending their 3-4 years around country *** bammas in Tallahassee and Tuscaloosa, they'll be here.

I agree with what you're saying, but let's be clear that DC specifically is not great at football. You're going to have to go into the burbs in MD and VA to find the talent. Kids like Goldman and Benn (big time national recruits in DC) are the exceptions not the norm. OTOH, MD has a bunch of good football schools and have produced many talented kids as mentioned in this thread (Diggs, Haden, Dockett, et al). It's not as abundant as one would think, though. I'd rather spend more time in the Tidewater/Cheseapeake area than the DC metro area, to be honest.

True - DC/Baltimore will also always be a basketball first area. I'm surprised at the big time recruits that have been in the area recently, but it's not a deep pool.

Relevancy is becoming an issue in South Florida as we haven't been nationally relevant since 2005, so it's definitely going to be a problem in other areas. We're a combined 2-6 against MD, VT & UVA over the last 3 years. Hard to sell your program when you have a 3 year losing streak to UVA.

Atlanta is tough since it's so SEC dominated. Georgia just dominates GT in media coverage and fan support, even though GT is right in the city. There's not much Miami support. FSU and Florida have a ton of people in Atlanta. But the Atlanta area produces a ton of players so there's always the opportunity to cherry pick.

 

[TheSwagger1]

South Dallas loves the U. Never understand why the presence is so thin, especially with the Horns down.

A friggin Men. South Dallas area used to be a pipeline of sorts for us back in the day. Carter, Roosvelt, etc. are traditional powers that we used to recruit in the late 80s/early 90s. South dallas is very comparable to LC/OT Miami in that regard - tough inner city and a hotbed of football. Don't see why we can't go after more kids in that area. Swag, is the talent just not what it used to be in Dallas?

Talent's still there at Dallas Skyline (gets a lot of kids who used to go to Carter), Carter, Lincoln, Madison, Desoto, Cedar Hill, etc. The power has shifted to Skyline and the suburb schools like Desoto & Cedar Hill instead of the DISD programs but tons of these kids in South Dallas area love the U. Desoto even adopted the "U" hand sign and they throw it up anytime they make a big play (as do their fans). Lots of folks in those communities remember what Miami stood for back in the 80s/90s and have love for the Canes. Of course we've stunk lately so that's had an effect, and UT/OU/TAMU/LSU are always going to get the bulk of them, but I feel like we could be cherry picking one or two there every few years.

 

[motorcitycane]

I think per capita, the TW/Chesepeake area has produced more NFL players than any other area (or at least right up there).

There and south florida are like the two biggest producer's of NFL talent. So many cat's come outta Hampton Roads it ain't funny. VT loses a lot of VA recruits suprisingly. That's one of those state's in which dude's go where they want to go. No one has a real recruiting pipeline out Hampton Roads are yet.

 

[ScubaCane]

Definitely some Canes swag in metro Atlanta, but the pecking order is Georgia, Auburn (less than 2 hour drive), Clemson (less than 2 hour drive), Alabama and then the rest of the SEC. GT struggles with metro Atlanta and no love for ****y Paul. Nice job getting Kirby, but don't see Canes having a chance to regularly pulling top kids.

I agree, Metro ATL is constantly fed the company line about how great the SEC is, that it will be very difficult to consistently land top kids from this area.

 

[UMcanesfan420]

If we win another National Championship anytime soon, we need to do like they do in SFLA and put up some billboards in talent rich SEC areas like ATL. Tell em how many HOF'ers and future HOF'ers we have. How many Pro-Bowlers and superstars. All that.

 

[Chocolate City Cane]

I agree with what you're saying, but let's be clear that DC specifically is not great at football. You're going to have to go into the burbs in MD and VA to find the talent. Kids like Goldman and Benn (big time national recruits in DC) are the exceptions not the norm. OTOH, MD has a bunch of good football schools and have produced many talented kids as mentioned in this thread (Diggs, Haden, Dockett, et al). It's not as abundant as one would think, though. I'd rather spend more time in the Tidewater/Cheseapeake area than the DC metro area, to be honest.

Maryland is an interesting state. There's really a few different Marylands. You have PG and Montgomery counties (where the top MD kids are from) that border DC and are considered extensions of DC, or part of the DMV (DC, MD, VA metropolitan area). This is where the Skins play and the Caps/Bullets used to play. Kids like Haden, Navarro Bowman, Diggs, Darby, etc. grew up less than 20 minutes outside the city. A lot of people here are from DC and moved into MD when gentrification hit. Lots of transplants here, too. Head up to Calvert, Howard, and Anne Arundel counties and that's pretty much B'more. Baltimore is only 45 minutes from DC, but it might as well be China. Different music, fashion, speech, food, everything. These are the "true" Marylanders, so to speak. There's no link between us.

Don't know how relevant all that is, just thought I'd give people an idea of what it's like here. Going back to your point, I agree 100% that a 757 pipeline would probably be more beneficial and get us more kids, but a DC area pipeline is also worth establishing, especially considering we already have a lot working in our favor up here. With as much love as people have for the U, and the fact that these kids (MD kids included) are city kids, I don't think it has to be either or. Win, establish a presence, cherry pick the Diggs's and Goldmans, profit.

 

[AUcane]

Points noted, CCC. I'd say the talent east of SS (i.e. Bowie, PG county, etc.) is better than the west (MoCo, etc.).

Trivia question for y'all: Last player from MD we recruited and signed.

Hint: it's been a while

 

[TheSwagger1]

Points noted, CCC. I'd say the talent east of SS (i.e. Bowie, PG county, etc.) is better than the west (MoCo, etc.).

Trivia question for y'all: Last player from MD we recruited and signed.

Hint: it's been a while

I'm stumped. I'm thinking we had a big, kinda sloppy DL in the mid 90s from Maryland but I can't remember the name.

 

[TheMatador]

Probably Jay Johnson from Brandywine. Went to Gwynn Park.