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YankeesCane said:
Team is a few plays from being say 8-3 maybe 9-2

But thats on the coach and scheme offensively and the mentality on offense

Until Mario changes his ways, nothing will change unless Miami has elite elite talent advantage which wont happen until the former occurs, more wins. Its a cycle
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And a few p[lays from being 4-7 with losses to VA and Clemson
 
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Viewing as subjectively as possible, Mario has brought in some good talent. The entire OL has improved and Mario deserves credit there. Fletcher, Bain, and Mauigoa are some of the best players on this roster.

But the lack of growth and just straight regression from TVD, KK, and others is problematic. You get a good game from the offense and then they just meltdown with the game on the line at the six yard line.

No matter how this is spun, 6-5 in year two isn’t good enough. The so-so recruiting class this season only makes things murkier for Mario. I’d be more inclined to believe things were still moving in a good trajectory if we had a class like last seasons, after seeing the returns on this year’s class. Maybe Mario can win the portal this offseason, but I’m skeptical. And honestly at this point that’s what Mario needs or things could be nuclear bad until he can win a true meaningful game.
 
There are no excuses. This kat can't lead a horse to drink water. Less known coach. U guys keep saying improvement. Yes there's talent but without a coach. I was going to refrain from criticizing till next season. Naw this **** plain n simple sucks. A glorified recruiter trying to a head coach.. that's what we have people's
 
ucaned said:
Sure you see some improvements, but you also see regression. How does TVD fall off a cliff? James and Kam look worse. You mention what Manny left and I agree, but has the talent left improved, and how much of the roster turned? Mario chased off a lot of the roster.

Calling for his job, there is no use, but I did not want him here in the first place. I did not, and still do not think he is a good coach. Unfortunately it seems that the hopes of the program are tied up in his success or failure with the investment they made. Sad if true when we could have brought in someone else for less money and not broke the bank, or brought in a better coach with the money.

There is no excuse for the Chaney non fumble, a coaching error lost the game. 3rd and 11 and you run the ball yesterday with a guy you say will play in the NFL? Poor clock management, the list goes on, but recruiting this cycle is a concern.
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TVD had 3 OC In 3 years. That’s how.
 
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ucaned said:
Dude, it is the ACC, the ACC sucks. The fact that we cannot win against ACC teams should be very alarming to you. FSU was very beatable yet we lost. Louisville was very beatable, but we lost. UNC, another train wreck. How Mario has the record he has in the ACC is mind boggling.
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Maybe you don’t understand just how awful this program has been and was last year. Yes, Mario royally Fed up the GT game. But we have lost every single game by one score and UNC by 10. We are a consistent QB away from competing. I’m not gonna tell you what to do. You’re grown. But I’ll have patience and watch the Build.
 
BeastMode said:
Ok I’ll start with each point and address your questions.

1. TVD falling off a Cliff. He was bad last year so what did you expect this year? He has only been good a few games of his career. Has always Thrown a lot of INT. He is what he is. That’s not on Mario. It’s on Mario to not try and recruit over him.

2. You said Kam and Williams have regressed. I disagree. Williams has looked the best he has since being at Miami. He is still exposed in coverage. No coach Can change that. He is an in the box player. Kam is having basically the same type season even after multiple big injuries. How is this on Mario anyways he doesn’t coach defense. This is a stupid point for you to even bring up to bash Mario.

3. Mannys talent. Yes it has improved. George is having a career year. Rivers is having the best year ever and may go pro. **** that’s about it for manny players even left. That’s the point. Mannys recruiting was so **** bad we are basically getting nothing from his classes. That’s a disaster to clean up.

4. Who did Mario chase off that’s actually having an impact somewhere? The SMU crew who play in a **** conference? Brinson has done nothing. Knighton still fumbles if anyone breathes on him. Roberts is solid and hoped he would stay. Who else has been chased of that is worth a ****? Once again terrible manny recruiting.

5. Not taking a knee is a terrible mistake. Other game day stuff as well but that’s who Mario is. Most of already knew this and said that’s why surrounding him with big coordinators is a must. Mario is a recruiter plan and simple. So far he has recruited better than any coach at Miami in 15 years. He gets another off-season to bolster the roster.

Any other debate you want to have?

I have time this morning so let me add to this.

Injuries.

How many rosters/coaches in year two of a new job can overcome losing the following players on a roster that’s not deep.

-Both starting DE for most of the year
-Starting DT both a different points of the year
-starting QB for multiple games. Multiple injuries
-starting CB for the last few games
-starting TE basically hasn’t played all yr
-starting Rb Parrish the last few games, Fletcher multiple games, Chaney banged up

What team has depth to cover that up besides the top teams in the country who have had coaching stability and top recruiting for the last 10-15 years.
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Mario has been given more resources than any head coach in Miami Hurricane football history by a landslide..and has fumbled the bag big time to this point. This season will forever be remembered as the continuously poor coaching decisions hampering a talented roster, which in year 12 of being a HC..is extremely discouraging.
As far as having to continuously surround him with superior OCs to account for his coaching….that is a pathetic reality. He hires a good OC once out of every 10 hires…if that. Don’t like the odds there. Or we can get a HC that has his own system in place and we don’t need to beg coordinators to stay and carry the load.
 
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FromDeeeeep said:
you act like Mario is by far and away the highest paid coach in CFB. This year alone 2 coaches who made more have gotten fired.

Mario was given a 10 year because everyone knew this was a complete rebuild but yet you want to fire him before the end of year 2?

Look back at the roster he inherited and tell how many future NFL players were on the roster.

Has he made mistakes? Sure. But he has shown he is correcting them (Gattis) and repeating them.
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I don't act like Mario is the highest paid in CFB, show me where I made any reference to that. $8M though is a lot for UM, perhaps double the highest we have paid for a coach. It should come with expectations.

I did not say anything about firing him. My initial post said to have thise that wanted him here to give more money because he is a poor coach and needs talent to cover for his limitations, basically. 10 years for a rebuild, you and I both know that is a BS statement. No program takes 10 years to rebuild. The great recruiter Mario should not need 10 years to turn over a roster, nor should any coach. It astonishing what people come up with, a 10 year rebuild, wow.

LT, Kam, JW, TVD (according to Mario), George, Rivers, Smith, Restrepo, Borregales, Zion if he gets healthy, Harrison-Hunt and Chaney perhaps.

Correcting them? Why does the O seem like he has his hands all over them?
 
Bird4um said:
TVD had 3 OC In 3 years. That’s how.
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Yet 9 games into the season we hear the announcers say they took plays out of the book he is not comfortable with. I agree he was shafted with the changes, but there still seems to be a disconnect with how to use him.
 
BeastMode said:
How is he not filling the roster?
He has had two recruiting cycles. He has flipped 80% of the roster. That’s extremely hard to do.

Chaney was down and was robbed by the ACC. That would be win 7.

TVD going complete mental breakdown and server injuries cost Miami the NC state game.

I don’t believe be in moral victories but had a chance to tie/win the game on last drive against the #4 team in the country on the road with a. True freshmen making his 2 career start.

Had a chance to Tie/beat the #10 team in the country yesterday at the end.

D-line has been destroyed with injuries.

There are multiple freshman and sophmore a that are playing really good football.

Team hasn’t quit all year. Miami has been in every single game. A couples drives/plays away from being a 9 or 10 win team.

If you don’t see the progress then I don’t know what to tell you.

This off-season will be vital to where his career at Miami goes. It’s fine for fans to be upset but ppl calling for his job are idiots. Dude will get 5yrs min.

Might as well find a way to support the program and put your money up to buy better players. That’s just where the sport is. Listen to every single coach who is losing and it all comes back to money to buy players. Georgia has nfl talent sitting the bench. Mario hasn’t had time to get that kind of depth.

Guidry is a good hire. Let’s see if Dawson stays or what happens on that side of the ball.

Mario will get it right. Manny left a terrible roster for him. How do ppl not realize that.

And yes Mario has made some major mistakes so this isn’t a slurped post either. Mario has to do better.
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Has to do better?
That’s an understatement.
You can’t seriously believe what you wrote.
The dude is a game away from being dead last in the conference. He won two ACC games all year, and had to squeak them through in overtime.
He doesn’t have a quarterback room and hasn’t recruited a single starting caliber quarterback since he’s been here.
He’s made three coordinator hires and wiffed on three of them.
And stop it with the Manny nonsense, Mario has been here two full seasons, flipped 80% of the roster and we are no better than Manny left.
The University paid him $80 million to fix this mess and he’s failing miserably.
 
ucaned said:
Sure you see some improvements, but you also see regression. How does TVD fall off a cliff? James and Kam look worse. You mention what Manny left and I agree, but has the talent left improved, and how much of the roster turned? Mario chased off a lot of the roster.

Calling for his job, there is no use, but I did not want him here in the first place. I did not, and still do not think he is a good coach. Unfortunately it seems that the hopes of the program are tied up in his success or failure with the investment they made. Sad if true when we could have brought in someone else for less money and not broke the bank, or brought in a better coach with the money.

There is no excuse for the Chaney non fumble, a coaching error lost the game. 3rd and 11 and you run the ball yesterday with a guy you say will play in the NFL? Poor clock management, the list goes on, but recruiting this cycle is a concern.
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James and Kam do not look worse. Other than that I agree with your post.
 
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cenoc918 said:
There are no excuses. This kat can't lead a horse to drink water. Less known coach. U guys keep saying improvement. Yes there's talent but without a coach. I was going to refrain from criticizing till next season. Naw this **** plain n simple sucks. A glorified recruiter trying to a head coach.. that's what we have people's
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I am not a Mario fan, but I think we can win with him, it will just be painful. My point was the money people need to step up as Mario needs help He needs massive talent to correct the deficiencies in him and his staff. Right now the class does not look good and we will hear the same excuses. We are either in it to win it, or just BSing the fans once again.

They picked their poison in Mario, now do what is necessary to give him the players. They staff needs to be revamped as well, and maybe Alonzo should have a hand in it or someone else. They also need to tell Mario to let the OC and DC do their thing. Mario can make us tough on the OL, but we need more than that.
 
BeastMode said:
How is he not filling the roster?
He has had two recruiting cycles. He has flipped 80% of the roster. That’s extremely hard to do.

Chaney was down and was robbed by the ACC. That would be win 7.

TVD going complete mental breakdown and server injuries cost Miami the NC state game.

I don’t believe be in moral victories but had a chance to tie/win the game on last drive against the #4 team in the country on the road with a. True freshmen making his 2 career start.

Had a chance to Tie/beat the #10 team in the country yesterday at the end.

D-line has been destroyed with injuries.

There are multiple freshman and sophmore a that are playing really good football.

Team hasn’t quit all year. Miami has been in every single game. A couples drives/plays away from being a 9 or 10 win team.

If you don’t see the progress then I don’t know what to tell you.

This off-season will be vital to where his career at Miami goes. It’s fine for fans to be upset but ppl calling for his job are idiots. Dude will get 5yrs min.

Might as well find a way to support the program and put your money up to buy better players. That’s just where the sport is. Listen to every single coach who is losing and it all comes back to money to buy players. Georgia has nfl talent sitting the bench. Mario hasn’t had time to get that kind of depth.

Guidry is a good hire. Let’s see if Dawson stays or what happens on that side of the ball.

Mario will get it right. Manny left a terrible roster for him. How do ppl not realize that.

And yes Mario has made some major mistakes so this isn’t a slurped post either. Mario has to do better.
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People are idiots. You’ll realize it quickly if u ever had to direct traffic
 
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