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Mario Cristobal talks class: “We’ll continue to grow through the second signing period and Portal"

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Hurracanes said:
Perhaps, I misspoke. Those teams don’t rely on portal to save their season. The majority starters and depth pieces are through HS and essentially reloading. They use the portal to add pieces or upgrade in certain areas (which is our long term goal). We are no where near that as an roster and are in a world of trouble if we don’t pay in portal.
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Your argument still falls flat. Oregon would not be an undefeated, #1 ranked team without the portal. Their season would be dramatically different without their transfers. A LARGE percentage of their impact starters on both sides of the ball are transfers. Same with other top schools. Same strategy we are using, they are just ahead of us at this point
 
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dk72 said:
Your argument still falls flat. Oregon would not be an undefeated, #1 ranked team without the portal. Their season would be dramatically different without their transfers. A LARGE percentage of their impact starters on both sides of the ball are transfers. Same with other top schools. Same strategy we are using, they are just ahead of us at this point
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Agree with this. Seems like recruiting is starting to shift to securing as many high school whales that you can and then using the portal for the rest. If I’m one of the big money donors, I certainly would want more of my investment going toward experienced kids instead of untested high schoolers.
 
dk72 said:
Your argument still falls flat. Oregon would not be an undefeated, #1 ranked team without the portal. Their season would be dramatically different without their transfers. A LARGE percentage of their impact starters on both sides of the ball are transfers. Same with other top schools. Same strategy we are using, they are just ahead of us at this point
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Their success wouldn’t be the same without great high school recruiting, and Dan’s killing it in that area—arguably even better than Mario did at Oregon.

Nobody’s saying you shouldn’t use the portal. The point is, by year four, the roster depth should be good enough that we’re not relying on the portal to save the season. Right now, this roster is winning 8 games at best and the 25’ class didn’t solve our issues.
 
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Hurracanes said:
Their success wouldn’t be the same without great high school recruiting, and Dan’s killing it in that area—arguably even better than Mario did at Oregon.

Nobody’s saying you shouldn’t use the portal. The point is, by year four, the roster depth should be good enough that we’re not relying on the portal to save the season. Right now, this roster is winning 8 games at best and the 25’ class didn’t solve our issues.
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Oregon, without their portal starting QB, starting CBs, starting WR, starting DT, and starting S would quite possibly be an 8 win team
 
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Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
So were looking at probably forcing 8-10 kids to hit the portal out. Leaving us with 10-12 additional spots.
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Is the 85 scholarship limit still in effect for next season or has that already changed?

Edit: just looked it up and its 105 for the upcoming season
 
Hurracanes said:
Perhaps, I misspoke. Those teams don’t rely on portal to save their season. The majority starters and depth pieces are through HS and essentially reloading. They use the portal to add pieces or upgrade in certain areas (which is our long term goal). We are no where near that as a roster and are in a world of trouble if we don’t pay in portal.
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We aren’t asking to “save our season” via the portal… we have talent at QB but if we can upgrade so be it.

The only position that we need “saving” is DB both safety opposite of ZP and corners outside of OJ.

Otherwise portal grabbing should be super selective no more Gores, cooks, McCormicks, Sam browns, or anyone who plays DB for Vanderbilt
 
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TexasCane90 said:
We aren’t asking to “save our season” via the portal… we have talent at QB but if we can upgrade so be it.

The only position that we need “saving” is DB both safety opposite of ZP and corners outside of OJ.

Otherwise portal grabbing should be super selective no more Gores, cooks, McCormicks, Sam browns, or anyone who plays DB for Vanderbilt
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I wouldn't pencil ZP in as a guaranteed starter either unless he takes huge steps this off-season.
 
Yoyo82 said:
I wouldn't pencil ZP in as a guaranteed starter either unless he takes huge steps this off-season.
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I’m going to pencil him in because I saw a lot of bright moments on his true freshman season… with another year under his belt he’s going to be a at worst an average safety here which is something teams like us this off season will over pay for in the portal
 
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Da Jumbo Mutombo said:
So were looking at probably forcing 8-10 kids to hit the portal out. Leaving us with 10-12 additional spots.
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Is it not 105 limit not 85?

But the guys I listed in red are guys I assume leave for one reason out another. Plus Arroyo who I didn't mean to include. So that right there would bring us to 75 itself. Maybe I'm off by 3-5....
 
JayCane20 said:
Spot on except for Arroyo is 99% gone after committing to the senior bowl.
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Roster management is critical but I’m not worried about spots. I anticipate 10 to 15 Portal departures from the current roster with probably 2 to 3 players we are not anticipating leaving. Those will sting. They always do.

My thinking isn’t based on any special inside information but the realities of the Portal. That’s just the way it is in today’s CFB environment. You cannot pay everyone equally or what they might think they are worth. And, you cannot give everyone the playing time they believe they deserve.

We will lose some and we will gain some. As long as the net result is an improved roster, then we should be fine.
 
DT did not land any elite guys-

We still have not had an elite 1st round DT since Vince Wilfork-

Defense needs to be fixed -Defensive class needs more-

Wiley, is a stud .
 
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