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He could enroll before his waiver is granted, technically
That’s what I would hope he does. He could even go pro if the waiver isn’t granted and just drop out, no?
He could enroll before his waiver is granted, technically
Right, there would be nothing stopping himThat’s what I would hope he does. He could even go pro if the waiver isn’t granted and just drop out, no?
Actually, if we had taken Bo Nix a couple years ago the board would have been in open revolt and the whole country was clowning Oregon for betting on “Good Bo / Bad Bo”.
Penix was seen as an injury washout by a ton of people. Talented player but couldn’t stay healthy.
For all we know, Taulia or Cam or whatever is the next Nix, or Penix, or Hooker…all of whom the resident experts would have **** all over.
That’s what’s frustrating here. Just lock in one of these vets and let Dawson get to work. It might not work, but the odds are way better if they’re here for spring. Scheme matters SO MUCH here…there were a bunch of guys that could have been good here, even some of the ones that looked like dented cans, and Mario shouldn’t have gotten so up the *** of the one portal kid that has turned their recruitment into a high school drama.
Fair point, but I guess my point is that one way or the other we need a new QB and if it’s all gonna come down to scheme, we need them in sooner rather than later either way. Speed matters.Like you said, though, scheme matters immensely. You’re probably right that none of those three would’ve been received all that well if they had transferred here before the 2022 season, but it’s critically important for the sake of context to acknowledge that the career trajectories for all 3 of those QB’s would’ve looked a **** of a lot different if they played in a Mario offense under Gattis or Dawson.
- Penix has become phenomenal and he also plays with an elite WR core headlined by a Top 10 overall NFL prospect in Odunze as well as exceptional coaches in DeBoer/Grubb. Their WR core and offensive coaching compared to ours is as different as night and day.
- Hooker had multiple 3rd round WR’s in 2022 and played in Heupel/Golesh’s prolific spread that heavily emphasizes wide splits, tempo, and a vertical passing attack. Our 2022 offense, on the other hand, emphasized prolific ineptitude, constant self-sabotage, and setting the game of football back 40 years.
- Bo Nix and the Oregon offense as a whole exploded once Lanning arrived and nailed his OC hires (Dillingham in 2022 and Stein in 2023). In 2022, Oregon had their most passing yards per game since 2015 (pre-Mario) and most points per game since 2014 (pre-Mario).
All 3 of Penix/Hooker/Nix completely blew away any expectations anyone had of them when they transferred. How differently would they be viewed now, though, if they had played under Mario and one of his hand-picked OC’s?
Handoffs. I believe a couple of them. That’s why they think he can get it.His 2019 game logs only show 3 games. What in the world was he doing going into 2 other games with no stats recorded. Would be a bummer to deny the waiver off that season...View attachment 277190
This is the key. Our scheme with Mario hasn’t been qb friendly.Like you said, though, scheme matters immensely. You’re probably right that none of those three would’ve been received all that well if they had transferred here before the 2022 season, but it’s critically important for the sake of context to acknowledge that the career trajectories for all 3 of those QB’s would’ve looked a **** of a lot different if they played in a Mario offense under Gattis or Dawson.
- Penix has become phenomenal and he also plays with an elite WR core headlined by a Top 10 overall NFL prospect in Odunze as well as exceptional coaches in DeBoer/Grubb. Their WR core and offensive coaching compared to ours is as different as night and day.
- Hooker had multiple 3rd round WR’s in 2022 and played in Heupel/Golesh’s prolific spread that heavily emphasizes wide splits, tempo, and a vertical passing attack. Our 2022 offense, on the other hand, emphasized prolific ineptitude, constant self-sabotage, and setting the game of football back 40 years.
- Bo Nix and the Oregon offense as a whole exploded once Lanning arrived and nailed his OC hires (Dillingham in 2022 and Stein in 2023). In 2022, Oregon had their most passing yards per game since 2015 (pre-Mario) and most points per game since 2014 (pre-Mario).
All 3 of Penix/Hooker/Nix completely blew away any expectations anyone had of them when they transferred. How differently would they be viewed now, though, if they had played under Mario and one of his hand-picked OC’s?
Does Mario not see the issues or does he just think his way is the right way?This is the key. Our scheme with Mario hasn’t been qb friendly.
After two years of zero creativity mixed with congested , tight formations I will remove myself from giving takes on the offense until I see different.Does Mario not see the issues or does he just think his way is the right way?
Its not gonna help when Michigan wins the natty monday with their offense lolDoes Mario not see the issues or does he just think his way is the right way?
Its not gonna help when Michigan wins the natty monday with their offense lol
Thing is we did see different the first few games of the year. Dawson's scheme was Dawson's scheme. TVD was setting records. Then the GT game and its like the whole thing changed. Was that all based around protecting TVD and trying to ground out the rest of the season?After two years of zero creativity mixed with congested , tight formations I will remove myself from giving takes on the offense until I see different.
I have long thought TVD reinjured the shoulder during the bye week. That was the beginning of the issues.....Thing is we did see different the first few games of the year. Dawson's scheme was Dawson's scheme. TVD was setting records. Then the GT game and its like the whole thing changed. Was that all based around protecting TVD and trying to ground out the rest of the season?
It’s like Dawson emptied his playbook early in the year. A&M is when the creativity stopped.Thing is we did see different the first few games of the year. Dawson's scheme was Dawson's scheme. TVD was setting records. Then the GT game and its like the whole thing changed. Was that all based around protecting TVD and trying to ground out the rest of the season?
Hard to read how much of that is Dawson lacking new concepts vs Mario interfering.It’s like Dawson emptied his playbook early in the year. A&M is when the creativity stopped.
After two years of zero creativity mixed with congested , tight formations I will remove myself from giving takes on the offense until I see different.
It’s like Dawson emptied his playbook early in the year. A&M is when the creativity stopped.
He was hurt and made some bone headed decisions but the formations / creativity was as vanilla as vanilla gets. Gattis lite.TVD had some real issues, but I continue to say Dawson was more than half the problem with the offense last year.