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Know Your Enemy (FSU depth chart)

They are better than us at QB, DT, LBer, and Safety.

And this is why we lose.

We are better than them at RB, WR, and about even at CB and Oline. Snickers made the Oline look worse than it was last year
 
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Geo305 said:
Lane and Rudolph will start over Haggins and Green soon at WR.

Cook will be spelling Williams soon at RB.

IMO.

QB: FSU, Could be us after Winston leaves.
RB: Miami
WR: Miami
OL: FSU. Another year or two, their more talented on the OL.
DL: FSU. Could tie with them a year from now pending development.
LB: Miami
DB: FSU for now, but could be tie or Miami pending seasons progress.
Kicking Game: FSU
Return Game: Tie
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LB is FSU and it realy isnt close. The problem with these comparisons is that while I agree that we are better at RB and WR then them, they arent far behind. Where as they are way better than us at the positions they already have an advantage on us outside maybe DB.
 
lol, the problem with these comparisons is that our rbs aren't going up against their rbs. our wrs don't play against their wrs. it's our rb vs their lbers. they can have less talented rbs but if our lbers suck, they will do well. these comparisons are stupid.
 
5XNC said:
lol, the problem with these comparisons is that our rbs aren't going up against their rbs. our wrs don't play against their wrs. it's our rb vs their lbers. they can have less talented rbs but if our lbers suck, they will do well. these comparisons are stupid.
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Not if you do the comparison the exact way you did...
 
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For comparisons sake. This what I think ours will be.

Offense

QB Brad Kaaya - Jake Heaps or Kevin Olsen



RB Duke Johnson - Joe Yearby or Gus Edwards



X Stacy Coley - Rashawn Scott

Z Phillip Dorsett or Herb Waters

Y Malcolm Lewis - Braxton Berrios



TE Clive Walford - Standish Dobard - Beau Sandland




LT Ereck Flowers - Taylor Gadbois

LG Jon Feliciano - Hunter Wells

C Shane McDermott - Alex Gall

RG Danny Isidora - Trevor Darling

RT K.C. McDermott - Sunny Odogwu



4-3

DE Anthony Chickillo - Chad Thomas - Jelani Hamilton

DT Olsen Pierre - Calvin Heurtolou - Anthony Moten

DT Ufomba Kamalu or Michael Wyche - Earl Moore

DE Tyriq McCord or Al-Quadin Muhammad - Trent Harris or Demetrius Jackson



OLB Raphael Kirby - Darrion Owens

MLB Denzel Perryman - Juwon Young

OLB Jermaine Grace - Thurston Armbrister



CB LaDarius Gunter - Artie Burns - Ray Lewis

CB Tracy Howard - Antonio Crawford or Corn Elder



S Deon Bush - Rayshawn Jenkins - Kiy Hester

S Jamal Carter or Dallas Crawford - Marques Gayot



3-4

DE Anthony Chickillo - Chad Thomas - Jelani Hamilton

NT Michael Wyche - Calvin Heurtolou or Earl Moore

DE Ufomba Kamalu - Olsen Pierre or Anthony Moten



OLB Tyriq McCord - Darrion Owens - Thurston Armbrister

ILB Raphael Kirby - Jermaine Grace

ILB Denzel Perryman - Juwon Young

OLB Al-Quadin Muhammad or Chad Thomas - Trent Harris or Demetrius Jackson



Defensive Backfield in 3-4 the same as 4-3 Defensive Backfield.
 
bobbydigius said:
Geo305 said:
Lane and Rudolph will start over Haggins and Green soon at WR.

Cook will be spelling Williams soon at RB.

IMO.

QB: FSU, Could be us after Winston leaves.
RB: Miami
WR: Miami
OL: FSU. Another year or two, their more talented on the OL.
DL: FSU. Could tie with them a year from now pending development.
LB: Miami
DB: FSU for now, but could be tie or Miami pending seasons progress.
Kicking Game: FSU
Return Game: Tie
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LB is FSU and it realy isnt close. The problem with these comparisons is that while I agree that we are better at RB and WR then them, they arent far behind. Where as they are way better than us at the positions they already have an advantage on us outside maybe DB.
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My friend they don't have much experience at LBer too and we have Denzel. I'm still picking us at LBer.
 
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5Ringz said:
They are better than us at QB, DT, LBer, and Safety.

And this is why we lose.

We are better than them at RB, WR, and about even at CB and Oline. Snickers made the Oline look worse than it was last year
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Their CBs and Oline are so much better than ours it is literally laughable. They're both top 1-3 groups in the entire country. I mean really.
 
If golden allows Winston to sit back and pick us apart again then it will be another long game. Hopefully he watched auburn get after Winston and learned that that is the best way to deal with a potent offense.
 
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As for real head to head match ups.

Their QB vs our DB = Right now FSU, maybe tie pending how good our secondary is this year.

Their RB vs our LB = Tie for now, could go either way pending development on both teams.

Their WR vs our DB = Miami

Their OL vs Our DL = FSU

Their DL vs our OL = FSU

Their LB vs our RB = Miami

Their DB vs our WR = Tie
 
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Geo305 said:
As for real head to head match ups.

Their QB vs our DB = Right now FSU, maybe tie pending how good our secondary is this year.

Their RB vs our LB = Tie for now, could go either way pending development on both teams.

Their WR vs our DB = Miami

Their OL vs Our DL = FSU

Their DL vs our OL = FSU

Their LB vs our RB = Miami

Their DB vs our WR = Tie
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What about the coaching match ups?
 
I think you guys are severely, severely over hyping our DB's, a group that hasn't proven anything at all yet. Howard is proven and is a **** of a player, but outside of that there is nothing but the hope that surely they can't be as bad as the last guys.
 
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You dont want to blitz winston he has some crazy stat vs the blitz make him beat u in the pocket he gets impatient...same gameplan as last year is good just gotta stop the run. And they will run more this year no doubt
 
Joecane said:
weownfsu said:
We have maybe like 3-5 players who would start for them.
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Duke
Stacey
Perryman
Howard
Flowers?

That's all I got.
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FSU WR situation not pretty. Dorsett, Waters, Lewis or Scott could start for them. Even Berrios.

FSU gonna end up starting Lane and Rudolph soon. Their talented but must remember, they are freshman.

Could see McCord or Muhammad as starters as pass rushers for them. Chick maybe.

Kirby, and Grace have just as much experience as the two new linebackers their putting in the lineup.


Healthy Bush could start for them. Carter and Dallas is a wait and see.
 
themonsta15 said:
You dont want to blitz winston he has some crazy stat vs the blitz make him beat u in the pocket he gets impatient...same gameplan as last year is good just gotta stop the run. And they will run more this year no doubt
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This. We **** the bed on offense, but defense stepped up first half until they got gassed and they pulled away. At one point Manuel was rattled after his 2nd pick and was yelling at the coach or his WR on the sideline after.
 
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AQM had 2 shots early in the game on Winston to stop drives and whiffed both...think he finishes those this year.

That said FSU is clearly ahead of us in talent and especially depth...it's closing though IMO
 
Geo305 said:
bobbydigius said:
Geo305 said:
Lane and Rudolph will start over Haggins and Green soon at WR.

Cook will be spelling Williams soon at RB.

IMO.

QB: FSU, Could be us after Winston leaves.
RB: Miami
WR: Miami
OL: FSU. Another year or two, their more talented on the OL.
DL: FSU. Could tie with them a year from now pending development.
LB: Miami
DB: FSU for now, but could be tie or Miami pending seasons progress.
Kicking Game: FSU
Return Game: Tie
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LB is FSU and it realy isnt close. The problem with these comparisons is that while I agree that we are better at RB and WR then them, they arent far behind. Where as they are way better than us at the positions they already have an advantage on us outside maybe DB.
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My friend they don't have much experience at LBer too and we have Denzel. I'm still picking us at LBer.
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Perryman is the best of any LB both teams return, no doubt, but after that they are way way better. Terrance Smith is a veteran and not exactly chopped liver. After that, they have 4 guys that physically are bona fide studs in Thomas, Eligwe, Levenberry and Northrup. We have Kirby and an undersized Grace, and then a bunch scrubs sans the true freshmen.
 
How are we better at LB?



Geo305 said:
Lane and Rudolph will start over Haggins and Green soon at WR.

Cook will be spelling Williams soon at RB.

IMO.

QB: FSU, Could be us after Winston leaves.
RB: Miami
WR: Miami
OL: FSU. Another year or two, their more talented on the OL.
DL: FSU. Could tie with them a year from now pending development.
LB: Miami
DB: FSU for now, but could be tie or Miami pending seasons progress.
Kicking Game: FSU
Return Game: Tie
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