Kendal Briles education

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Briles offenses are notoriously horrible at preparing their players for the NFL, and we have a reputation to uphold there. they also barely use TEs which doesn't match with our roster or the way we should be recruiting.

personally i just don't love watching the Briles style of offense. it's effective but numbing. aesthetically speaking I'd rather watch Brady. but I'm sure he'd be effective here and it is a good fit for TVD.

i do give Kendall credit for feeding Treylon Burks this year, he has as many catches (66) as their next 4 receivers combined. good college teams find their NFL players and give them as much as they can handle.

selfishly I hope we go in a different direction though.
 
Lashlee was good but let's step back a little. Forget about judging Lashlee by the standards the last 15 years or so. This team should've scored 10 more points per game than it did.

Briles is a million times better OC than Lashlee.
 
Briles offenses are notoriously horrible at preparing their players for the NFL, and we have a reputation to uphold there. they also barely use TEs which doesn't match with our roster or the way we should be recruiting.

personally i just don't love watching the Briles style of offense. it's effective but numbing. aesthetically speaking I'd rather watch Brady. but I'm sure he'd be effective here and it is a good fit for TVD.

i do give Kendall credit for feeding Treylon Burks this year, he has as many catches (66) as their next 4 receivers combined. good college teams find their NFL players and give them as much as they can handle.

selfishly I hope we go in a different direction though.

I feel the exact opposite. Even with the terrible coaching we've had here, we're still putting kids in the NFL, even without immense production. Cream rises to the top. Talent wins out. Pick your cliche....if you're an elite athlete, you'll find your way to the league. If anything, I think this is an even bigger endorsement of Briles....these dudes put up video game numbers with kids who don't pan out in the NFL. What happens when you give him kids that do?
 
Briles offenses are notoriously horrible at preparing their players for the NFL, and we have a reputation to uphold there. they also barely use TEs which doesn't match with our roster or the way we should be recruiting.

personally i just don't love watching the Briles style of offense. it's effective but numbing. aesthetically speaking I'd rather watch Brady. but I'm sure he'd be effective here and it is a good fit for TVD.

i do give Kendall credit for feeding Treylon Burks this year, he has as many catches (66) as their next 4 receivers combined. good college teams find their NFL players and give them as much as they can handle.

selfishly I hope we go in a different direction though.
don't think any OC is going to have that NFL problem here at Miami. Different level of talent than they've been working with and both of these candidates should be competent enough to not ***** up TVD
 
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Here is what I saw and know...Briles getting his **** pushed in by Manny Diaz Defense where his offense had 200 yards in almost 32 minutes of possession...with Cam Akers...at home in Trailerhassee...

He ain't his Daddy...Art is the goods...his son...ehhh
 
Briles offenses are notoriously horrible at preparing their players for the NFL, and we have a reputation to uphold there. they also barely use TEs which doesn't match with our roster or the way we should be recruiting.

personally i just don't love watching the Briles style of offense. it's effective but numbing. aesthetically speaking I'd rather watch Brady. but I'm sure he'd be effective here and it is a good fit for TVD.

i do give Kendall credit for feeding Treylon Burks this year, he has as many catches (66) as their next 4 receivers combined. good college teams find their NFL players and give them as much as they can handle.

selfishly I hope we go in a different direction though.
so you didn't enjoy Lashlee's offense? because they're very similar. power run with a vertical passing game. a different direction would be Brady and his horizontal passing game.
 
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I feel the exact opposite. Even with the terrible coaching we've had here, we're still putting kids in the NFL, even without immense production. Cream rises to the top. Talent wins out. Pick your cliche....if you're an elite athlete, you'll find your way to the league. If anything, I think this is an even bigger endorsement of Briles....these dudes put up video game numbers with kids who don't pan out in the NFL. What happens when you give him kids that do?
oh they'll put players in the NFL, i'm not saying that. it's just once they get there they have no idea what they're doing cuz they run like a total of 8 different plays in college. again i'm not saying it's not effective, because the rules of the college game really help that offense be effective, i just don't like it, personally speaking.
 
He's young, established, from all accounts doesn't mind recruiting, and brings the lashlee type of offense (along with being way cheaper than some other options).

I think this dude should be a no brainer for Mario but I feel the Joe Brady smoke is real. Hopefully Brady shifts his offense to this style
 
so you didn't enjoy Lashlee's offense? because they're very similar. power run with a vertical passing game. a different direction would be Brady and his horizontal passing game.
i mean honestly... not really? at least until the final 5 or so games of this season. i do think Lashlee's passing game was a bit more diverse too, especially using the TE. also for whatever it's worth, Lashlee appeared completely ill prepared to call games against Clemson and Alabama. like, dude looked like he didn't belong on the sidelines. now, maybe that was Manny's fault, and it's certainly not Kendall Briles fault... Arkansas put up 35 on bama just a few weeks ago. but there is drawbacks to the simplicity over everything kind of offense that those guys run.
 
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This may very well be moot since there's heavy smoke that Joe Brady will be hired as the OC, but I just want to educate some folks on here cause I've seen some REALLY poor takes RE: Briles over the past couple days. And there were at least some mentions of mutual interest between Mario and Kendal, so potentially if the Brady stuff is untrue or falls through, i REALLY hope we jump all over Briles. Again, I'm not saying he'd come or that Mario would have him, but there is an active thread that supposedly someone is reporting that there is mutual interest. And I want you guys to understand that, if the starts align somehow, this guy would be a MONSTER hire for us.

First of all, if you're just going to point to his performance with FSU, namely against us in 2019, as your only evidence that he sucks, please just hit "back" on your browser now and find another thread. But we'll get there in a minute.

First of all, his resume:

We all know he's Art's son, and we all know some shady **** went down at Baylor. That's irrelevant at this point, he's been vetted by multiple schools and I'm not going to be the moral police here. It was multiple years ago.. But Art is a ******* genius at calling offensive football, and Kendal is certainly a chip off the old block.

He played at Houston until 2005, and joined his daddy's staff in 2008. He worked at Baylor for 9 years, watching Art blow the doors off college football for years before he was promoted to the OC in 2015.

What did Baylor do in 2015? Oh, not much, they just led the entire county in PPG against FBS competition at 46.6 PPG, went 10-3, and won the Citrus Bowl.

In 2016, the **** hit the fan with the sexual assault scandal, Art was fired in the spring, and they brought in Jim Grobe to be the HC. The team floundered, they went 7-6, they were still a Top 30 offense but it wasn't the prolific ****-fest that we were used to in years past.

2017 comes, Baylor is obviously nuked, and Briles leaves to go to FAU to work with Lane. So here is where his sample size really begins to take shape, because I know people are going to say the Baylor stuff was just because of his dad and Art was the maestro there. In 2017, FAU starts slow, but ends the season 7th in the country in scoring offense (40.2 PPG) and 9th in the country in YPP. They win a conference championship, and a Bowl Game.

2018 rolls around, Briles is lured away from Boca and ends up at his Alma Mater, Houston, working under Major Applewhite. In his first and only season in Houston, they finish 7th in the country in scoring offense (41.8 PPG), and 12th in the country in YPP. Unfortunately, our boy Mark Onofrio is the DC there, and they only finish the year 7-6. Side note, they were 92nd in the country in YPP allowed under Onofrio. El oh el.

2019, Willie comes calling at FSU, so Kendal packs his bags to Tallahassee. Here is where we become most familiar with him, of course, and where this perceived bad reputation somehow stems from. In 2019, FSU was terrible, and Taggart was fired midway through the season. The offense was not great, but when you compare it to where it was the year before, in 2018, Briles actually improved it rather considerably. Mind you, it's widely believed that FSU had the literal worst offensive line in the entire P5, and one of probably the 5-10 worst in all of FBS. He inherited James Blackman and Alex Hornibrook. It's been widely reported that Taggart meddled in the offense constantly, since he knew he was on the hot seat rather quickly. And here is still what Briles did:

107 to 70 in YPP
112 to 74 in scoring offense
128 to 105 in YPC
127 to 93 in Rushing yards per game
94 to 39 in passer rating
97 to 49 in Offensive SP+
97 to 65 in Offensive FEI

Not too shabby when you consider where they were, Year 1, and what he was working with.

Then in 2020, he goes to Arkansas, and they finish 81st in the country in scoring offense, and 53rd in the country in YPP. Not great, but in 2021, those numbers go to 44th in the country in scoring offense, and 27th in YPP. **** of an improvement, and pretty impressive when you consider that in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021, Arkansas BEST recruiting class in the SEC was 9th out of 14 teams, and that was 2021. So his older kids, those classes ranked 11th, 10th, and 14th. Talent deficiencies across the board. I think we can all agree that Arkansas isn't out-talenting many teams in the SEC West. But look at the improvement from before he got there. In 2019, Arkansas was 103rd in the country in F+ offensive ranking, which basically combines SP+ and FEI, two of the leading advanced metrics out right now. 2020, the number rose to 56th. In 2021, they're currently 24th. ABSURD improvement.

So let's wrap it all up. Here's a look at where teams were before and after he was the OC at FAU, FSU, Houston, and Arkansas:

FAU 2016 (90th in F+) -- 2017 with Briles (21st) -- 2018 (64th)
Houston 2017 (51st in F+) -- 2018 with Briles (26th) -- 2019 (60th)
FSU 2018 (97th in F+) -- 2019 with Briles (61st) -- 2020 (83rd)
2019 Houston (103rd in F+) -- 2020 with Briles (56th) -- 2021 with Briles (24th)

So, literally EVERY SINGLE STOP he's had in his career, the offense was worse the year before he got there, improved when he was there, and declined as soon as he left. Every single time. And this doesn't even include the Baylor years, where they were perennially the best offense in the entire country. Bottom line, this dude is so **** legit. Can you imagine what he'd do in the ******* ACC Coastal with a massive talent advantage, a superstar QB, Alex Mirabal coaching his OL, the skill players we have here......good lord. I like Brady a lot, but honestly this dude is even more consistently proven than Brady is. He's called plays at this level for years, with eye-popping IMMEDIATE results. What more can you possibly want? Give this dude all our skill and speed and watch out.
That's a hard sell to the wrong group of people
 
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Briles offenses are notoriously horrible at preparing their players for the NFL, and we have a reputation to uphold there.

Uh huh, I can't think of one Baylor player that's having even an average career in the NFL. I thought Corey Coleman was gonna do something, but He was steady ******* i n' up and begging Marvin Lewis to trade Him on Hard Knocks.
 
Uh huh, I can't think of one Baylor player that's having even an average career in the NFL. I thought Corey Coleman was gonna do something, but He was steady ******* i n' up and begging Marvin Lewis to trade Him on Hard Knocks.
well, Josh Gordon put up 87/1646/9 his second year in the league, dude was a straight phenom. i wouldn't blame his flaming out on Baylor, obviously. but he was also the perfect Baylor wide receiver in that all he needed to do to get open was run go routes all day. RGIII's career flaming out was more the Washington team's fault than it was Baylor's also. all that being said, it's pretty well known that there is as steep a learning curve going from that offense to the NFL than there is for pretty much any other offensive system in college.
 
Uh huh, I can't think of one Baylor player that's having even an average career in the NFL. I thought Corey Coleman was gonna do something, but He was steady ******* i n' up and begging Marvin Lewis to trade Him on Hard Knocks.

Treylon Burks might be WR1 in the draft this year.
 
well, Josh Gordon put up 87/1646/9 his second year in the league, dude was a straight phenom. i wouldn't blame his flaming out on Baylor, obviously. but he was also the perfect Baylor wide receiver in that all he needed to do to get open was run go routes all day. RGIII's career flaming out was more the Washington team's fault than it was Baylor's also. all that being said, it's pretty well known that there is as steep a learning curve going from that offense to the NFL than there is for pretty much any other offensive system in college.

Forgot about Gordon, would've had a great career if He could've put the bong down.
 
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